Dayton's Obi Toppin named AP Player of the Year

[Blair Sanderson]

https://apnews.com/ad2eff1c40e9fc05c047d93a90038201

PLAYER OF THE YEAR VOTING

Obi Toppin, Dayton (34)

Luka Garza, Iowa (24)

Markus Howard, Marquette (3)

Udoka Azubuike, Kansas (2)

Payton Pritchard, Oregon (2)

 

[brownd7949hawks]

By ten votes? Bunch of idiots.

 

[vincebrookins]

HOGWASH

 

[HawkAssassin]

 

[skydog0784]

Ridiculous

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Any Dayton fan would trade Topin for Garza in a heartbeat.

Any Hawkeye fan would laugh at the possibility of that trade.

That pretty much sums it up.

If Garza played Topin’s schedule his stats would probably be around 33 & 12 per game.

 

[mazda1]

Obi will be coming out and hopefully Luka will be coming back. Flash over substance. It doesn’t change what a awesome season Luka had.

If the tournament had happened it would have shown Obi that when you play good competition every game it’s a different game. More big city media driving poor decisions.

 

[CJ Beat Hard]

Funny how this was one of the top headlines on ESPN, yet when Garza won ESPN POTY it was nowhere to be seen...

 

[alle2]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

Lol, at about 3 stupid statements in just this 1 post!

That’s impressive actually.

 

[blhawk]

Total joke. Press much not watch many games or even look at stats. Jay Bilas sucks

 

[alle2]

All spot on... your just bitter. Great kid and player. Obi won the AP, Luke may win some other.s. The flip of the coin will be who is drafted higher. Loses to really bad teams like DePaul and Nebraska and a neutral tells me perhaps the BIG TEN overrated. Hell Richmond who finished 4 in A 10 beat Wisconsin by 10. So CBB this year was very even and competitive year .

 

[Jizzer]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

Player of the year is driven by how the kids actually played, not promise. Obi had a great season, Garza had a better one. Kaminsky, Valentine, Burke and Turner all had worse stats than Garza in the last ten years, when they won player of the year, all coming out of the big ten. Make no mistake, had Garza had MSU on his jersey, nobody is even debating it.

 

[Jizzer]

All spot on... your just bitter. Great kid and player. Obi won the AP, Luke may win some other.s. The flip of the coin will be who is drafted higher. Loses to really bad teams like DePaul and Nebraska and a neutral tells me perhaps the BIG TEN overrated. Hell Richmond who finished 4 in A 10 beat Wisconsin by 10. So CBB this year was very even and competitive year .

In all seriousness, learn to type. You sound like a Grade A moron. Iowa had as many bad losses as you guys had top 25 wins.

 

[Kurt Warner]

Just plain dumb

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

In all seriousness, learn to type. You sound like a Grade A moron.

I assumed he’s from Ohio.

Thus the moron part would be confirmed.

 

[BBHawk]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

Garza would hang 50 with 20 rbs on Dayton.

 

[brownd7949hawks]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

That’s possible the dumbest take I’ve ever read. The award goes to the beat college player. Has nothing to do with a higher draft ceiling. It should come down to numbers. And Garza’s are all better, against better competition.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

This award has nothing to do with who is the "better player" and who is more NBA ready. It was for the Player of the Year - meaning who had the best season. All things being close to equal, the level of competition should have made the difference for Garza.

 

[Michael1969]

Can't wait for a couple of years to see which one wins NBA ROTY when they're going up against equal competition.

Also, is there a breakdown by voter anywhere?

 

[thecarls]

But... but.... Obi can do a windmill dunk

 

[alle2]

So you guys think the National writers would vote for a guy from Dayton vs a Big Ten player who has much more TV exposure. Look both great players. Luke will win the Wooden or some other award. It’s very close.

 

[Ronman]

Disappointed for Luka, but not surprised.

 

[iafan44]

So you guys think the National writers would vote for a guy from Dayton vs a Big Ten player who has much more TV exposure. Look both great players. Luke will win the Wooden or some other award. It’s very close.

What made you decide to all of a sudden post?

 

[CO_hawk]

Stupid shit A10 conference.... Good for him, playing against Missouri Valley level talent.

 

[alle2]

I am a huge CBB fan and also know coach from his days back East. He is a favorite of mine. I have always liked the Iowa program and how they compete. I enjoy using rivals to see what other boards are saying etc. I am a UD grad and felt like I needed to protect my guy. Our teams run very different offenses and the two boys play different styles. Luke was the go too,Obi was very efficient, far less shots. Both deserving. But Obi is much more than a dunker or highlight reel.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

AP voters...

 

[justinjdry]

Luka wasn't even on a preseason watch list and Toppin was on all of them. Luka Garza went from being essentially a nobody to becoming the most efficient player in college basketball. How is that not proving you should be recognized as the college basketball player of the year?

 

[jhawkinaz]

Bummed by this. Really think LG is the clear choice. Only silver lining in this is you get to say Obi won, which is cool. May the force be with you.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

Iowa > your team

 

[owenhawk]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

I don't have a problem with Toppin winning but that is a very ignorant post.

 

[alle2]

It’s really spot on. A symptom of ignorance is not being open minded and or attacking people and incapable of conversation. Sounds like a fit for you.

 

[VicHawkeye]

Booooo! Hisssss! Shame on you 34 voters!

 

[kceasthawk]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

You really had to try hard to post something this wrong. What the NBA things of the two players potencial in the league has absolutely NOTHING to do with who had the best year in college basketball. What Garza did this season hasn't been done in a MAJOR, (I know Dayton wouldn't know what that is,) conference in three decades.

 

[kceasthawk]

I am a huge CBB fan and also know coach from his days back East. He is a favorite of mine. I have always liked the Iowa program and how they compete. I enjoy using rivals to see what other boards are saying etc. I am a UD grad and felt like I needed to protect my guy. Our teams run very different offenses and the two boys play different styles. Luke was the go too,Obi was very efficient, far less shots. Both deserving. But Obi is much more than a dunker or highlight reel.

Wonderful. The point is its not about what he could do if he wanted, or what he'll do in the pro's. Its about what Garza DID DO against consistently much better competition.

 

[alle2]

Lol.... speaking of bad typing and spelling.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

It’s really spot on. A symptom of ignorance is not being open minded and or attacking people and incapable of conversation. Sounds like a fit for you.

That's what I thought.

Iowa > your team

 

[markfromj]

Funny how this was one of the top headlines on ESPN, yet when Garza won ESPN POTY it was nowhere to be seen...

Then how did you know of it?

 

[rendango]

A couple of quick thoughts. First, idk about you guys but this doesnt surprise me one bit. And just think of the motivation and determination that Luka will have now coming back for his senior season. This entire team will have so much motivation based on Luka getting snubbed for POY and Iowa finishing the season ranked #25. I'm sorry for Luka, but this has the potential to turn out to be very good for us in the long run here. Congrats to Obi.

Also guys, remember this...Dayton is not a powerhouse team. They just had a historic season and Obi was their greatest player ever who is now going to the NBA. And their magical season got cut short by the coronavirus. Their future looks nothing like ours. So lets let them have this one and not hold onto any resentment here. 2020 baby!!!

 

[West CO Hawk]

Look the NBA draft will answer the question of who experts thought was the best player. If Garza stays that will tell us that he wasn’t ready or highly thought of. Toppin is simply the better player. Be happy for kid, Garza can stay and perhaps win next year.

The award is for NCAA player of the year and not who they, or you, expect to be the better NBA player.