While it would be cool to have Oliver back on the Iowa bench, I think someone with roots outside of Iowa that can recruit is what we need. Iowa does not have much in-state talent and I assume that is where Oliver would have ties.
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Just hiring an ex Hawk for nostalgia's sake would be dumb. Dean O is already at a top flight P5 team, Iowa would be a step down. He is smart and I'd bet he's good at game planning. No idea on recruiting or teaching skills.
Horner is a third generation coach I think. A guy like that usually ends up being a pretty good coach. But again, do we really know if he can recruit. Younger, just in his early to mid 30s I suppose. Be good to know where he's been recruiting at his other stops along the way.
Horner is a third generation coach I think. A guy like that usually ends up being a pretty good coach. But again, do we really know if he can recruit. Younger, just in his early to mid 30s I suppose. Be good to know where he's been recruiting at his other stops along the way.
Then as a former Hawk, he did his job.
Iowa already lands most of the top talent within the state. If that is what Dean Oliver would bring, that isnt adding much.
Let's also remember that Dean's time as a Hawk was before any current high school kid would know.
Let's also remember that Dean's time as a Hawk was before any current high school kid would know.
Only technically. He had a full ride Presidential Scholarship so we didn't have to burn a recruiting scholly on him.
Older than that. No one we're now recruiting was even born when Dean O played at Iowa or when we last made the Sweet 16. Tempus fugit.
I thought people were mad at him because of that game against the Hawks where we were far ahead at the end and they were still pressing.
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I don't think anyone is really mad at Horner for what happened there. End of the game was not handled very well. North Dakota (I think it was Amani Hooker's brother) fouled Jok very hard with 10 seconds left. Then Baer gets a steal with a few seconds left (Iowa up 11) and just stands there with the ball waiting for the game to end. North Dakota player runs up, rips the ball away and a teammate puts it in (after the buzzer). Jones is on the sidelines making the count it sign with his hand and the whole sequence set Fran storming off the court.
I get why Fran was ticked. Really the hard foul on Jok was the thing that would have bothered me most as a coach. Instead of just shaking hands and then handling it privately by never, ever scheduling a Jones-coached team again, Fran had to make the story about something else (his storming off the court).
In the past 20 years they've been to 19/20 NCAA tournaments, 7 Sweet 16 Sixteens, 1 Elite 8, and 3 Final Fours.
In what world is that not a better job then Iowa who hasn't made it to the Sweet 16 in that period?
It is much more likely that Fran would hire someone from Greensboro, Siena or Notre Dame than a former Hawkeye. People tend to hire folks they know, like and trust. Nothing at all wrong with that. Heck one former coach even hired his father as an assistant!
Yep, Horner's excuse for the hard fouls very late were "we coach them to play to the whistle."
Now that Joens is out as the Head man at North Dakota, I assume Horner throws his hat into that ring.
I was thinking of Oliver being the one, were Oliver and Horner there together?
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