you know there is a difference between being in prison and being convicted, you can be convicted of something and not spend anytime in prison
you know there is a difference between being in prison and being convicted, you can be convicted of something and not spend anytime in prison
What do you expect? Anyone who believes in protecting America would be a huge improvement over Biden. There have been hundreds likely thousands of confirmed terrorists and drug dealers crossing the southern border and Biden doesn't care. I'm not sure what he believes his job is if it isn't to protect America.Every Republican candidate except Christie agreed to support the eventual nominee in the general election. There is nothing stopping Trump from running for President from a jail cell.
Here ya go....What do you expect? Anyone who believes in protecting America would be a huge improvement over Biden. There have been hundreds likely thousands of confirmed terrorists and drug dealers crossing the southern border and Biden doesn't care. I'm not sure what he believes his job is if it isn't to protect America.
If they can actually get these terrible policies passed they are far more dangerous, not less. They just aren't as good at rallying the fascist base of the GOP.They are less dangerous, though.
Really? Confirmed? And how were they confirmed? How does anyone know? How do you know Biden doesn't care? From your own right wing reporting, we are catching more illegals than we ever have before.What do you expect? Anyone who believes in protecting America would be a huge improvement over Biden. There have been hundreds likely thousands of confirmed terrorists and drug dealers crossing the southern border and Biden doesn't care. I'm not sure what he believes his job is if it isn't to protect America.
What are the specific policy proposals offered by the republicans?
I don’t think you appreciate the threat Trump uniquely poses to the entire democratic process. At the end of the 2024 election we could see multiple states remove the right of voters to cast a vote for president, opting instead for the gerrymandered state legislatures to choose who their electors will vote for.If they can actually get these terrible policies passed they are far more dangerous, not less. They just aren't as good at rallying the fascist base of the GOP.
So you'd be alright with them endorsing a convict as long as he/she didn't have to spend time in prison?you know there is a difference between being in prison and being convicted, you can be convicted of something and not spend anytime in prison
Haley is the one to caucus for. Slim chance she could get some momentum off Iowa and New Hampshire. Then come into her home state and make a case.Voting Christie would definitely feel less icky than Haley or DeSantis, but isn't he polling low single digits in Iowa? If stopping Trump is your #1 priority, caucusing for Christie rather than one of Haley or DeSantis seems like one lousy evening to me on top of a waste of time. Hell that time would be better spent going to the Dem caucus and figuring out new arguments with those guys to convince non-Dems to vote Biden in 2024. Something better than "not trump" and it's going to have to be better because people who don't follow politics closely can look around in 2024 and see a war in Ukraine, a war in Gaza that's possibly spilling out wider, and the same cost of living issues more or less than have been happening since COVID.
So let’s elect a Homeland and intelligence Security threat to combat Border security.What do you expect? Anyone who believes in protecting America would be a huge improvement over Biden. There have been hundreds likely thousands of confirmed terrorists and drug dealers crossing the southern border and Biden doesn't care. I'm not sure what he believes his job is if it isn't to protect America.
Based off of false intelligence via the Bush administration and the public also backed it with said false intelligence. I wanted to be deployed to Afghanistan not Iraq, I'm well versed in this era.She voted to go to war in Iraq...
No but let’s be honest because That’s not what they askedSo you'd be alright with them endorsing a convict as long as he/she didn't have to spend time in prison?
My last caucus (democrat) was 1992. We had about 90 people and I had the usual misfortune of being the chair.Republican caucus is actually a bit more tolerable IIRC. At least the one I went to in 2008 (Ron Paul reLOVEution forever). They do secret ballots at least. Still the same local caucus biz and rigamarole before the voting, but that's handled with secret ballots until the unviables are all out. This could have changed. But my lord do I hate caucuses. If they were ever the better way to do things, that time ended well before the cold war did.
Yes, let's be honest. There was no clause in the question regarding being in prison, the moderators were simply asking if the candidates would support Trump if he won the nomination regardless of his legal status. Face it, everyone except maybe Christie promised to support Trump as the nominee NO MATTER WHAT!No but let’s be honest because That’s not what they asked
Kamala hasn’t done anything. At all.
You’d have to try pretty hard to even have much of an opinion about her.
Derp. Vote for TrumpKamala has had the most turnover of staff in history. Even former close friends on staff resigned quickly as she screams and rages at her staff. Her biggest priority the first year in office was making people stand when she walked into a room. She ignores anything Joe asks her to do. He did not want her in the first place and regrets very much he was talked into it.
No, nothing much. Which is the point.This, fill us in @Pinehawk
Like the Speaker selection RN, this is a Republican problem. Let them figure it out. If Trump’s the man, Trump’s the man. Don’t expect me to bail out the mistakes made by others who really are much dumber than I.Whose name isn't Trump. Hear me out, if somebody can beat him in Iowa that will put a huge hole in his armor and his supporters won't be able to talk about the fn polls. I am doing my best to rally conservatives to do the same but let's take Trump out and make him go home. I realize some of you are going to laugh at this, but do you really want to take a chance and play with fire? If you weren't running Biden I wouldn't be as concerned, but right now he is. (Right now I am planning on voting for Biden in the General if he is up against Trump) if that makes you feel any different
i figured many republicans liked to do their own research.I disagree. I'm not saying caucusing is the greatest way to nominate a person, but simply walking in a booth and checking a name when all you know about him/her is what you see in political ads or what you hear from bias news organizations is woefully inadequate. Maybe one might learn something from hearing from others.
At that point, who ****ing cares?Yea but at what expense?
No, nothing much. Which is the point.
Although now that you mention it, actually yes. Mike Pence stood up to Trump and refused to steal the election. And, Trump’s followers wanted to kill him for it.
What are you talking about? My main point was that Kamala hasn't done anything to elicit much of an opinion from anyone. When some missed that point, and asked what significant action a VP has taken, I provided a pretty solid recent example.So nothing burger from you? BAU. It's comical how much of a clown you've become.
You’re kidding, right? His actions in Florida show precisely how vindictive he is. We were right about Trump all along and you learned. We’re also right about DeSantis. Now learn that as well. And Haley. Go back and watch what she said about Trump in 2015. Now she’ll vote for him if he was in prison. That’s not someone I want in charge of our nation.Oh come on, the fact that he is a family man and doesn’t attack those who don’t endorse him and yet there is nothing like able?
What stupid things would these be? The only stupid is Americans who are afraid of her. Never ending idiocy.Kamala isn't despised,.. More like feared,.. feared for the stupid things she might do.
you know there is a difference between being in prison and being convicted, you can be convicted of something and not spend anytime in prison
Republicans do not care any longer about American democracy. It’s plain as day. If they can hold power without it, democracy isn’t useful for them anymore. Stupid Americans are gifting them authoritarian rule.I don’t think you appreciate the threat Trump uniquely poses to the entire democratic process. At the end of the 2024 election we could see multiple states remove the right of voters to cast a vote for president, opting instead for the gerrymandered state legislatures to choose who their electors will vote for.
There is, frankly, no end to the damage he could do. And no other human being has the grip has has on these people to make it happen.
Whose name isn't Trump. Hear me out, if somebody can beat him in Iowa that will put a huge hole in his armor and his supporters won't be able to talk about the fn polls. I am doing my best to rally conservatives to do the same but let's take Trump out and make him go home. I realize some of you are going to laugh at this, but do you really want to take a chance and play with fire? If you weren't running Biden I wouldn't be as concerned, but right now he is. (Right now I am planning on voting for Biden in the General if he is up against Trump) if that makes you feel any different
Hey, @RNHawk what are your feelings about this?Who said they would vote for him in prison?
Personally I hope he goes to jailHey, @RNHawk what are your feelings about this?
DeSantis, Haley pledge to pardon Trump if he’s convicted
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That doesn't answer the question.Personally I hope he goes to jail
If he does and one of those two become President he has a get out of jail free card in his back pocket. Heck maybe their hoping their promise to pardon will give Trump incentive to drop out of the race so one of them can win.Personally I hope he goes to jail
I'm planning on caucusing for Christie, then flipping to Haley if he is deemed unviable.
DeSantis is a clown in high heels that smiles like a robot. He would be Trump 2.0, minus the charisma.
Would it be worth Trump dropping out but getting a pardon for you?If he does and one of those two become President he has a get out of jail free card in his back pocket. Heck maybe their hoping their promise to pardon will give Trump incentive to drop out of the race so one of them can win.
Republican caucus is actually a bit more tolerable IIRC. At least the one I went to in 2008 (Ron Paul reLOVEution forever). They do secret ballots at least. Still the same local caucus biz and rigamarole before the voting, but that's handled with secret ballots until the unviables are all out. This could have changed. But my lord do I hate caucuses. If they were ever the better way to do things, that time ended well before the cold war did.
They are less dangerous, though.
I disagree. I'm not saying caucusing is the greatest way to nominate a person, but simply walking in a booth and checking a name when all you know about him/her is what you see in political ads or what you hear from bias news organizations is woefully inadequate. Maybe one might learn something from hearing from others.