Democrats on this board are doing something Republicans here won’t…

[Finance85]

Acknowledge reality (other than @Chishawk1425).

What’s lost in the Biden shit show is the incontrovertible fact Donald J Trump is still the same lying, narcissistic, ranting, incoherent, unfit lunatic he’s always been…

And not a single Trump voter here will ever acknowledge that…

It took a defining moment, along with the left leaning media outlets suddenly turning on Biden in unison. Everything we saw last night has been there for at least the last year.

I suspect there's a defining moment to turn all but the hardcore Trump supporters as well. It's not going to be a clearly sham trial in NY though. It could have been any of the remaining trials, especially the GA elections trial, but Dems have been stepping all over themselves trying to lose those trials.

 

[CoachH]

Sorry to inform you but I don’t watch or read Fox. Can’t stand them. And what did Trump do pre-Covid that makes you think he’ll screw it up worse than where we’re at now. Wars? Economy? Immigration? Please enlighten us.

You seem to believe the president has more power than he does.

Trump is a criminal. Ask yourself why would you vote for a criminal, who does and will do more criminal things. And he still has 2 trials to go, at least. The man is unfit for office.

Tell me Biden shouldn't be president either and I'll go along with that. But he's still miles better than the convict.

 

[Tom Paris]

I acknowledge that, always have. I also acknowledge he gets things done, always has.

What did he get done? Dude bankrupted 6 businesses. Had a fake college. Doesn’t pay his bills. Made money off taxpayers by charging SS for staying at his clubs. He’s a conman who only cares about himself but he attacks Democrats and Republicans LIVE for that shit. It’s pathetic Americans IGNORE all of it.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

And they are effing gleeful about it. They are thrilled that their convicted felon and serial sexual assaulter could win back the White House. Also, they are celebrating way too soon.

I get it - Trump is officially a “convicted felon” at this point.

So, because of that, you’d rather have a guy literally incapable of being president? A guy that falls…walks like a robot…speaks like he’s constantly having a brain lapse…and just generally looks like he’s lost?

 

[Tom Paris]

It took a defining moment, along with the left leaning media outlets suddenly turning on Biden in unison. Everything we saw last night has been there for at least the last year.

I suspect there's a defining moment to turn all but the hardcore Trump supporters as well. It's not going to be a clearly sham trial in NY though. It could have been any of the remaining trials, especially the GA elections trial, but Dems have been stepping all over themselves trying to lose those trials.

Aileen Cannon is a Democrat?

 

[Tom Paris]

I get it - Trump is officially a “convicted felon” at this point.

So, because of that, you’d rather have a guy literally incapable of being president? A guy that falls…walks like a robot…speaks like he’s constantly having a brain lapse…and just generally looks like he’s lost?

Incapable? He IS the president and has accomplished far more than the dictator wannabe ever did. Yes. I would pick Biden over a guy who is a felon and liable for sexual assault as my President. What’s wrong with you??

 

[CoachH]

I get it - Trump is officially a “convicted felon” at this point.

So, because of that, you’d rather have a guy literally incapable of being president? A guy that falls…walks like a robot…speaks like he’s constantly having a brain lapse…and just generally looks like he’s lost?

Literally? You know the man is currently president?

Trump is literally a felon; that works.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

Incapable? He IS the president and has accomplished far more than the dictator wannabe ever did. Yes. I would pick Biden over a guy who is a felon and liable for sexual assault as my President. What’s wrong with you??

What did CNN say last night?? CNN!

After the debate: We need to know who is making the decisions in the White House? What is going on in the White House?

Joe is not capable of being the leader of this country.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

Incapable? He IS the president and has accomplished far more than the dictator wannabe ever did. Yes. I would pick Biden over a guy who is a felon and liable for sexual assault as my President. What’s wrong with you??

He is a robot being sent out on stage. He’s not capable of forming coherent thought on his own.

 

[Tom Paris]

What did CNN say last night?? CNN!

After the debate: We need to know who is making the decisions in the White House? What is going on in the White House?

Joe is not capable of being the leader of this country.

He, again, IS the leader. It was a bad night for him. Obama had a terrible debate in 2012. There is literally NOTHING coming out of the administration that backs up what you just said.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Kill yourself, you f**king idiot. You are supporting a treasonous, lying, self-indulgent, fascist felon. A f**king dead skunk is a better option. And it smells better as well.

Okay, that’s a little too extreme.

 

[Tom Paris]

He is a robot being sent out on stage. He’s not capable of forming coherent thought on his own.

You’re wrong. What coherent thoughts did your guy have? What truth, backed up by actual facts, did he tell. The fact check after showed exactly what Trump is - and none of you care.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Kill yourself, you f**king idiot. You are supporting a treasonous, lying, self-indulgent, fascist felon. A f**king dead skunk is a better option. And it smells better as well.

Caroline is really mad this morning.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

He, again, IS the leader. It was a bad night for him. Obama had a terrible debate in 2012. There is literally NOTHING coming out of the administration that backs up what you just said.

Hilarious. Again - he is a robot and a terrible one at that.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

He, again, IS the leader. It was a bad night for him. Obama had a terrible debate in 2012. There is literally NOTHING coming out of the administration that backs up what you just said.

Tom, are you really going to rationalize what we saw last night by comparing it to an Obama performance in 2012?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

You’re wrong. What coherent thoughts did your guy have? What truth, backed up by actual facts, did he tell. The fact check after showed exactly what Trump is - and none of you care.

Why is it so hard for Democrats and Republicans to admit two things can be true at the same time? Why?

 

[Scruddy]

Congrats on catching up to what we've known and been saying for years. Try not to gobble up the propaganda in the future though, please. This isn't something you should be making a victory lap about tbh

 

[hexumhawk]

Kill yourself, you f**king idiot. You are supporting a treasonous, lying, self-indulgent, fascist felon. A f**king dead skunk is a better option. And it smells better as well.

Intelligence personified

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Caroline is really mad this morning.

Not mad, moron.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Okay, that’s a little too extreme.

Maybe, but it's truth.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Joe looked like he had the mental acuity of a Dana College dropout.

Do you mean one that has 3 more college degrees than what you have?

 

[sabula]

Joe looked like he belonged in a nursing home. Trump looked like a high school senior who won't graduate and will spend the rest of his life working in a factory and cheating on his wife.

Well you got half of Trump's character right.

 

[Tom Paris]

Hilarious. Again - he is a robot and a terrible one at that.

You’re lying. He doesn’t look like a robot giving this speech right now. You support a rapist conman. Your opinions of Biden mean nothing.

 

[Tom Paris]

Why is it so hard for Democrats and Republicans to admit two things can be true at the same time? Why?

What are you talking about?

 

[jasonrann]

You’re wrong. What coherent thoughts did your guy have? What truth, backed up by actual facts, did he tell. The fact check after showed exactly what Trump is - and none of you care.

Tom, I agree with many of your posts, but I think you're pissing up a rope in this case. It was way beyond a bad night.

It doesn't matter if Trump had coherent thoughts or not, Biden was that bad. I didn't watch it live, but watched a good chunk of it this morning and it's painful. Even Biden hitting on all cylinders would not have swayed the people that were already voting for Trump. I doubt very many people (like me) that were really looking for some form of assurance of strength, coherence or vitality from Biden got it last night. Something that tells us he can still do the job. He's done. If he is the candidate, I won't vote. I will not vote for Trump because he is nothing more than a con man, not to mention a POS human being with no redeeming qualities. Nothing he could promise policy-wise would change my mind because it would be all horseshit anyway. I would have voted for Christie, Romney and possibly even Haley, but that ship has obviously sailed.

If the democrats want to save this, they better act quickly. If they try and double down on stupid and roll with Biden, they can go ahead and order the gold-plated toilet early for Trump in the WH. It still amazes me that we are even in this situation to begin with.

 

[biggreydogs]

There’s always a tweet.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

Tom, I agree with many of your posts, but I think you're pissing up a rope in this case. It was way beyond a bad night.

It doesn't matter if Trump had coherent thoughts or not, Biden was that bad. I didn't watch it live, but watched a good chunk of it this morning and it's painful. Even Biden hitting on all cylinders would not have swayed the people that were already voting for Trump. I doubt very many people (like me) that were really looking for some form of assurance of strength, coherence or vitality from Biden got it last night. Something that tells us he can still do the job. He's done. If he is the candidate, I won't vote. I will not vote for Trump because he is nothing more than a con man, not to mention a POS human being with no redeeming qualities. Nothing he could promise policy-wise would change my mind because it would be all horseshit anyway. I would have voted for Christie, Romney and possibly even Haley, but that ship has obviously sailed.

If the democrats want to save this, they better act quickly. If they try and double down on stupid and roll with Biden, they can go ahead and order the gold-plated toilet early for Trump in the WH. It still amazes me that we are even in this situation to begin with.

Thoughts? @Tom Paris

 

[coorsoriginal02]

You’re lying. He doesn’t look like a robot giving this speech right now. You support a rapist conman. Your opinions of Biden mean nothing.

It is OBJECTIVE fact you moron.

You’re not paying attention.

 

[Scruddy]

You’re wrong. What coherent thoughts did your guy have? What truth, backed up by actual facts, did he tell. The fact check after showed exactly what Trump is - and none of you care.

Hey Tom, here is a fact check for you:



Biden lied about the border patrol union supporting him and got bitch slapped by them in real time.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

What are you talking about?

Two things can be true at the same time: Trump is still a piece of shit and unfit for the presidency. Joe Biden is too old and too cognitively impaired to continue on as president for another four years.

 

[Scruddy]

Two things can be true at the same time: Trump is still a piece of shit and unfit for the presidency. Joe Biden is too old and too cognitively impaired to continue on as president for another four years.

I think trump is also too old despite his brain working better than biden's

 

[markfromj]

Acknowledge reality (other than @Chishawk1425).

What’s lost in the Biden shit show is the incontrovertible fact Donald J Trump is still the same lying, narcissistic, ranting, incoherent, unfit lunatic he’s always been…

And not a single Trump voter here will ever acknowledge that…

I was a 2016 Trump voter (not 2020, and not sure what I’ll do in 2024), but this 2016 Trump voters acknowledges what you say I won’t.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I was a 2016 Trump voter (not 2020, and not sure what I’ll do in 2024), but this 2016 Trump voters acknowledges what you say I won’t.

In truth, I don’t know what I will do either.

I know I will never vote for Trump. But I don’t know if I can in good conscience vote for Biden either.

It’s probably going to be “other” for me.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Do you mean one that has 3 more college degrees than what you have?

Cite your work.

 

[h-hawk]

This is my fear. And thus far the way top Dems are reacting-"Biden will be fine".

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

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And people wonder why the minds of those that watch MSNBC turn to mush.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I think trump is also too old despite his brain working better than biden's

Not a very high bar.

America can and should do better.

 

[Rifler]

This has been coming for a long time,.. nobody can feign surprise anymore.

 

[jasonrann]

Two things can be true at the same time: Trump is still a piece of shit and unfit for the presidency. Joe Biden is too old and too cognitively impaired to continue on as president for another four years.

 

[Scruddy]

Not a very high bar.

America can and should do better.

I know I am a broken record at this point but I'd love a vote of no confidence option. Replace all the candidates (pres and vp both unable to run for either position again in that cycle) if that wins over both candidates.