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Des Moines sucks!

Some things I'm sure, but it really has started to dominate everything, both him and a good friend of both of ours. I'm trying to take the high road for the 2nd time. I have tried reasoning and they both left the twitter direct message goup and the text group. But then started up again eventually. I've decided (if I can hold to it, we went at it bad a week or so ago), it isn't worth it. They are both aligned that if there was a rape, he would be in jail, if there was anything to be indicted about, he wouldn't have a clean record for 70+ years, there was no insurrection, that was mostly Ds, teachers are grooming kids to be trans and gays, Ds are racist and caused a race war in order destroy the country in 2020 and also crated Covid to end Trump's presidency. They get extremely angry and believe anything Elon or Collin Rugg or Libs of TT post. It is usually at night, but started this morning today.

That's really quite sad. Millions of MAGAs under the spell and easily forgotten are the friends and family that are impacted.
 
They need to bring back those "Des Moines sucks!" shirts from a couple decades back.

Downtown Hy-Vee reduces hours, cites crime and loitering as reasons why​



In what dying small town do you live?
 
I had a group of friends who would do Hawkeye vodka gerbil shots. They'd bend the neck of the 1.75L plastic bottle, the person taking the shot would get on all fours, paw at the ground and beg for a shot. The person with the bottle would flip the bottle and feed the shot taker like a gerbil.....

Good times
Sounds like a sausage fest.
 
Don't forget those city schools with litter boxes in the bathrooms and kids identifying as horses!
I lost my s*** this morning at the gym. The woman leading a fitness class started talking about kids using litter boxes at school. I used the word BS repeatedly, she kept insisting that her friend that "works at a school", says it's true. She asked me if her friend was lying, and I said yes, or she's a moron who didn't actually see anything, and was just spreading lies. I told her I'd give her $1000 if she could take me to this school and show me the litter boxes.
People are so freaking dumb. Seems like something Northern would believe.
 
I lost my s*** this morning at the gym. The woman leading a fitness class started talking about kids using litter boxes at school. I used the word BS repeatedly, she kept insisting that her friend that "works at a school", says it's true. She asked me if her friend was lying, and I said yes, or she's a moron who didn't actually see anything, and was just spreading lies. I told her I'd give her $1000 if she could take me to this school and show me the litter boxes.
People are so freaking dumb. Seems like something Northern would believe.

It's as unbelievable as you taking a gym class.
 
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If one purchases Hawkeye Vodka more than one time on purpose, that person should seek treatment. It is the nastiest alcohol I have ever tasted, and I have had my share of rot gut. I once bought a bottle and tasted it, and nearly barfed. I tried to disguise it with Kool Aid or some shit. Still gross. I just dumped it down the drain. And this is from someone who would not turn down a Kirkland vodka straight, on the rocks.
Wife buys Hawkeye for the kitchen. She uses it to make vanilla extract.

She knows if she bought the good stuff it would probably evaporate in the cupboard.
 
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Hyvee is completely terrible at understanding market needs and demographics. They should have built one of their smaller market stores in downtown DSM instead of a large full service store.

They are stuck in this idea that they want to sell pretty much everything instead of just being a good grocery store
I was a manager for HyVee for many years. They have made terrible decisions since Randy Edecker took over. He has left it a mess. I hated my last couple of years working there.
 
Is this a thread about DM sucking, Hy Vee or some of your terrible drinking habits?

Don’t get me started on the ones that get political. You all suck worse than DM. I’ll take it over any city or town the rest of you live in or near.
 
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Just visited the ole downtown Hy-Vee again (told you I suck at planning, forgot to buy wings yesterday for the games this evening). You'll be happy to know I was able to avoid the horde of marijuanas induced psychosis homeless people. I tricked them by tossing a slice of sausage and pepperoni over their heads to distract them, then once I got by I dumped out a bag of tropical skittles to cover my tracks. They either slipped on the skittles or couldn't resist eating them. They almost caught me while I was struggling to open the parking lot gate because **** that pole that doesn't let you pull in tight enough to scan the ticket.

I've lived downtown or in the downtown area for close to 10 years (brief hiatus from 2019-2020). The pearl clutching I hear from people who live in the suburbs or out of towners who visit downtown once a year is ****ing hilarious.

Are there some whack jobs around? Of course, but that's just downtowns in any mid to large sized metro. I've been to that downtown Hy-Vee... hundreds of times since it has opened and had maybe... 1 or 2 weird interactions with a crazy person. Keep a resting bitch face on and don't draw eye contact and people will typically just leave you alone. Anyone who is afraid of downtown Des Moines is a ****ing pansy.

Edit to add something in the article that really made me laugh. Spaghetti Works closing and citing crime as a reason for closing. Yeah, pretty sure it was because you served dogshit cafeteria Italian and there are 50 better restaurants than yours in a 2 mile radius.
 
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I was a manager for HyVee for many years. They have made terrible decisions since Randy Edecker took over. He has left it a mess. I hated my last couple of years working there.
Sorry to hear that. I had some relative who worked for Hy-vee back in the 90s and 00s. They loved working there and had good careers. But as you said, the last decade or so has seen the company change drastically.
 
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Just visited the ole downtown Hy-Vee again (told you I suck at planning, forgot to buy wings yesterday for the games this evening). You'll be happy to know I was able to avoid the horde of marijuanas induced psychosis homeless people. I tricked them by tossing a slice of sausage and pepperoni over their heads to distract them, then once I got by I dumped out a bag of tropical skittles to cover my tracks. They either slipped on the skittles or couldn't resist eating them. They almost caught me while I was struggling to open the parking lot gate because **** that pole that doesn't let you pull in tight enough to scan the ticket.

I've lived downtown or in the downtown area for close to 10 years (brief hiatus from 2019-2020). The pearl clutching I hear from people who live in the suburbs or out of towners who visit downtown once a year is ****ing hilarious.

Are there some whack jobs around? Of course, but that's just downtowns in any mid to large sized metro. I've been to that downtown Hy-Vee... hundreds of times since it has opened and had maybe... 1 or 2 weird interactions with a crazy person. Keep a resting bitch face on and don't draw eye contact and people will typically just leave you alone. Anyone who is afraid of downtown Des Moines is a ****ing pansy.

Edit to add something in the article that really made me laugh. Spaghetti Works closing and citing crime as a reason for closing. Yeah, pretty sure it was because you served dogshit cafeteria Italian and there are 50 better restaurants than yours in a 2 mile radius.
I have a younger coworker who lives on Mulberry Street and she walks everywhere. We had a work event at The Surety and she walked to meet us there and then we walked to Exile for dinner and walked back to Surety and several guys did not want her walking back home by herself and she just laughed.
 
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I wonder if the population density being a few hundred percent lower might have SOMETHING to do with police calls also being a few hundred percent lower.

Call me crazy, but I bet it does!
No kidding? Wow! I never thought of that!

Oh wait, nevermind. That's not at all what I said. Derp. Lol
 
You got scared into thinking transgenderism is a mental illness. It's not surprising that you got conned into thinking Portland is a shithole
Yeah, "gender" is totally sane, based in reality, and not on self-ID whims. You're a moron.
 
Sorry to hear that. I had some relative who worked for Hy-vee back in the 90s and 00s. They loved working there and had good careers. But as you said, the last decade or so has seen the company change drastically.
Maybe Kroger needs to move to Iowa and put some pressure on Hy-Vee. I guarantee it would do better in Iowa than Hy Vee would do in Kentucky and Indiana (if their leadership was smart - which they aren't - they'd abandon the idea of setting up shop well outside their footprint, but they're dead-set on failing bigly)
 
I lost my s*** this morning at the gym. The woman leading a fitness class started talking about kids using litter boxes at school. I used the word BS repeatedly, she kept insisting that her friend that "works at a school", says it's true. She asked me if her friend was lying, and I said yes, or she's a moron who didn't actually see anything, and was just spreading lies. I told her I'd give her $1000 if she could take me to this school and show me the litter boxes.
People are so freaking dumb. Seems like something Northern would believe.

North Dodge?
 
Maybe Kroger needs to move to Iowa and put some pressure on Hy-Vee. I guarantee it would do better in Iowa than Hy Vee would do in Kentucky and Indiana (if their leadership was smart - which they aren't - they'd abandon the idea of setting up shop well outside their footprint, but they're dead-set on failing bigly)
They won't stop, it's hysterically funny. Incompetents (promoted from within) put in positions to make decisions, then not backing down despite little things like, you know ... math. Every sign points to Hy Vee, DONT GO THERE, and yet they keep marching on, in the mean time their over priced and overbuilt flag ships circle the drain. Why not go back to 1989 when the family that built the franchise lost control? They had a winning strategy and are now lost is a bunch of corporate ninnies' hubris. Would love to hang all this on Edicker, but it was Pearson that started the spiral and it just keeps getting worse. I vote Kroger!
 
Maybe Kroger needs to move to Iowa and put some pressure on Hy-Vee. I guarantee it would do better in Iowa than Hy Vee would do in Kentucky and Indiana (if their leadership was smart - which they aren't - they'd abandon the idea of setting up shop well outside their footprint, but they're dead-set on failing bigly)
Kroger is in Davenport. I do not think they have displaced HyVee at all.
 
They won't stop, it's hysterically funny. Incompetents (promoted from within) put in positions to make decisions, then not backing down despite little things like, you know ... math. Every sign points to Hy Vee, DONT GO THERE, and yet they keep marching on, in the mean time their over priced and overbuilt flag ships circle the drain. Why not go back to 1989 when the family that built the franchise lost control? They had a winning strategy and are now lost is a bunch of corporate ninnies' hubris. Would love to hang all this on Edicker, but it was Pearson that started the spiral and it just keeps getting worse. I vote Kroger!
I have been to Kroger, Publix, Food Lion, Winn-Dixie, Fresh Market, etc. I did not see any hamburger joints, bars, clothing sections, or shoe sections in any of them. If HyVee would dial it back 10% and just stop with that stupid crap, they are as good as any of those chains. Hopefully for the sake of lots of people employed by HyVee they get back to the fundamentals of successful grocery stores.
 
I have been to Kroger, Publix, Food Lion, Winn-Dixie, Fresh Market, etc. I did not see any hamburger joints, bars, clothing sections, or shoe sections in any of them. If HyVee would dial it back 10% and just stop with that stupid crap, they are as good as any of those chains. Hopefully for the sake of lots of people employed by HyVee they get back to the fundamentals of successful grocery stores.
If you want to shop at a supermarket without having to leave Iowa, there's Fareway. Shame about Dahl's demise a few years ago, they were a solid grocer.

Shopping at HV is like shopping at a circus. They even have the damn tents out front at times.
 
I have been to Kroger, Publix, Food Lion, Winn-Dixie, Fresh Market, etc. I did not see any hamburger joints, bars, clothing sections, or shoe sections in any of them. If HyVee would dial it back 10% and just stop with that stupid crap, they are as good as any of those chains. Hopefully for the sake of lots of people employed by HyVee they get back to the fundamentals of successful grocery stores.
It is something so glaringly obvious that I just assume I’m missing something. I shop the south Ankeny Hy-Vee. They don’t have clothing but have a section with bath bombs and some other stuff that I never see anyone in. I assume its either really high margin or maybe I’m missing when people are there but as others have said, stick to groceries and work on price and Hy-Vee would be fine.
 
If you want to shop at a supermarket without having to leave Iowa, there's Fareway. Shame about Dahl's demise a few years ago, they were a solid grocer.

Shopping at HV is like shopping at a circus. They even have the damn tents out front at times.
Dahl's was pretty bad. At least the one in Ankeny that failed as horrible. They were somehow more expensive than HyVee with 1/4 of the people working there, and with 1/4 of the selection. It deserved to have its lunch eaten by its competitors.
 
Lived in VA when we had a great family run grocery called Ukrop’s. They sold out to Kroger which completely ruined the chain of Ukrop’s stores and local bakery that delivered to the stores daily.

Kroger sucks. I’ll never shop there again even if I have to go to Winn Dixie. Pubic’s (😜) all the way in the SE.
 
Dahl's was pretty bad. At least the one in Ankeny that failed as horrible. They were somehow more expensive than HyVee with 1/4 of the people working there, and with 1/4 of the selection. It deserved to have its lunch eaten by its competitors.
Granted I haven't been to one in literally 25 years, so it might have gone downhill.

Didn't they serve central IA exclusively? Mostly DSM but maybe a couple in Ames?
 
It is something so glaringly obvious that I just assume I’m missing something. I shop the south Ankeny Hy-Vee. They don’t have clothing but have a section with bath bombs and some other stuff that I never see anyone in. I assume its either really high margin or maybe I’m missing when people are there but as others have said, stick to groceries and work on price and Hy-Vee would be fine.
That's the section they just put in the North store, which replaced the shoe section, which replaced the clothing section. At least it sells products that somewhat make sense. Frankly, if they were going to expand an area within the store, I wish it would be items you need in a kitchen. They have some trays, cake pans, and a limited assortment things which go in a kitchen. But I guess if you are a place that sells food, you could also make some money by having some kitchen aid stand mixers, a better assortment of knives and pans you'd actually want to cook with, etc.
 
Granted I haven't been to one in literally 25 years, so it might have gone downhill.

Didn't they serve central IA exclusively? Mostly DSM but maybe a couple in Ames?
I believe that is correct, and that there were 10 to 20 of them which are now price choppers. The Dahl's in Ankeny was just a few minutes from my house and I really wanted it to succeed. But after a while, I felt like we were grocery shopping at a convenience store, in terms of price and selection.
 
Aldi’s, SAMS, and Costco is the winning combination.

I go to HyVee for fresh basil and that’s about it.
 
Aldi’s, SAMS, and Costco is the winning combination.

I go to HyVee for fresh basil and that’s about it.
The things HyVee has that I cannot get satisfactorily elsewhere which come to mind:
  • fresh herbs like basil
  • some vegetables like jalapenos
  • chilled salad dressings
  • quality freshly sliced deli meat
  • certain salsas
  • certain frozen pizzas
  • bratwurst
  • pre-marinated/spiced/prepared chicken breast or chicken grillers
Otherwise, it is 90% costco or sam's, depending upon the time of day/location, or whether we have reached a loyalty status with the credit card we normally use and are not within reach of another one, so I just to to costco and use the visa card they have.
 
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Granted I haven't been to one in literally 25 years, so it might have gone downhill.

Didn't they serve central IA exclusively? Mostly DSM but maybe a couple in Ames?
Dahl’s history…..


They spent too much on new stores then couldn’t compete with Hy Vee. Once they were gone Fareway really took off in the metro and surrounding communities. Like Fareway and their small food footprint. They get it by selling groceries and not fufu items.
 
The things HyVee have that I cannot get satisfactorily elsewhere which come to mind:
  • fresh herbs like basil
  • some vegetables like jalapenos
  • chilled salad dressings
  • quality freshly sliced deli meat
  • certain salsas
  • certain frozen pizzas
  • bratwurst
  • pre-marinated/spiced/prepared chicken breast or chicken grillers
Otherwise, it is 90% costco or sam's, depending upon the time of day/location, or whether we have reached a loyalty status with the credit card we normally use and are not within reach of another one, so I just to to costco and use the visa card they have.
Fareway says hi!
 
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