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Despicable high school play in TX

People get more out of that short video than I. While on the surface it doesn't look good, I've learned things are rarely as they seem.

What happened previously in the game? Is there a back story leading up to the game?

I have more questions that a few second video doesn't answer. Until I know more I can't pass judgement beyond a simple "it doesn't look good".
 
People get more out of that short video than I. While on the surface it doesn't look good, I've learned things are rarely as they seem.

What happened previously in the game? Is there a back story leading up to the game?

I have more questions that a few second video doesn't answer. Until I know more I can't pass judgement beyond a simple "it doesn't look good".

Prior to the play where the individuals targeted the referee with the hits, John Jay players were ejected on separate plays, the San Antonio Express News reports. Their reason for taking out the referee is unclear, but the players were immediately ejected, and the resulting penalties helped Marble Falls extend their possession and effectively run out the clock for the game.
 
People get more out of that short video than I. While on the surface it doesn't look good, I've learned things are rarely as they seem.

What happened previously in the game? Is there a back story leading up to the game?

I have more questions that a few second video doesn't answer. Until I know more I can't pass judgement beyond a simple "it doesn't look good".
What more could you possibly even need to see? It was intentional and there is zero disputing that. Zero
 
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I'd be interest in knowing how this plays out.

IMO the players should be ban from High School Sports for the remainder of their careers. Pretty obvious it was deliberate and the 2 players conspired to do it.

Secondly, criminal charges should be filed. The ref had no indication this was happening and no chance to protect himself. This assault could have easily resulted in a serious injury.

IDK about Texas but it is getting increasingly hard to get people to officiate. Crap like this isn't going to help that trend.
 
What more could you possibly even need to see? It was intentional and there is zero disputing that. Zero

Not disputing it's intentional, but doesn't change my view. While I don't condone what they did, or begin to advocate for them, what transpired previously in the game that lead to their actions?

I have a difficult time believing they arbitrarily decided to do what they did without real or imagined provocation.
 
I watched this 15-20 times last night. I just couldn't understand how they could possibly think this was ok. Did they really think no one would notice?

i don't know the extent of the refs injuries, but they're lucky if he's not seriously hurt. Should be thrown in jail
 
Not disputing it's intentional, but doesn't change my view. While I don't condone what they did, or begin to advocate for them, what transpired previously in the game that lead to their actions?

I have a difficult time believing they arbitrarily decided to do what they did without real or imagined provocation.

Huh? What could the ref had possibly done to make this ok in your mind? Made a bad call? Yeah, that worth deliberately taking him out from the blindside.
 
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Huh? What could the ref had possibly done to make this ok in your mind? Made a bad call? Yeah, that worth deliberately taking him out from the blindside.
This, nothing would justify what the kid did. Agree they should be banned for life. That is some cowardly crap and if i was that ref I would have ripped that kids helmet off and beat his ass.
 
Not disputing it's intentional, but doesn't change my view. While I don't condone what they did, or begin to advocate for them, what transpired previously in the game that lead to their actions?

I have a difficult time believing they arbitrarily decided to do what they did without real or imagined provocation.

Mindboggling response. Please give me an example of when this would be ok. Thanks and I'll wait.
 
People get more out of that short video than I. While on the surface it doesn't look good, I've learned things are rarely as they seem.

What happened previously in the game? Is there a back story leading up to the game?

I have more questions that a few second video doesn't answer. Until I know more I can't pass judgement beyond a simple "it doesn't look good".

Thanks for your input Mr. Goodell.
 
Huh? What could the ref had possibly done to make this ok in your mind? Made a bad call? Yeah, that worth deliberately taking him out from the blindside.

Does the fact I said I don't condone, nor do I advocate for them mean something different in your language? I don't understand how wanting to know more than a 10 second video provides indicates I think it's OK or justifiable in what they did, because it shouldn't.

I simply want to know if something transpired that lead these punks to believe this was a good course of action. That's it, nothing more.

I watch 10 seconds and want to know more. Seems most everybody else sees these same 10 seconds and have all the answers. I am not as enlightened as some of the rest of you.
 
If the ref was trying to be the center of attention. Then he had it coming. Nobody goes to a sporting event to see the officials.
 
Maybe he deserved it. Need more context.
Only an idiot could post that. You don't need any further "context" the official was targeted. The player should be ejected for that game and at least the following. I know what my football coach would have done. On Monday the team would have one less player.

We had a rule that we didn't get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, the first one you were suspended for one game the second you were off the team.

When I was a junior our best most athletic player was also a hot head. He got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, got suspended for a game. First game back he got another. At the start of the next practice we gathered in a semi-circle and our coach told us that he was no longer on the team. We did get another unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for the remainder of that year and the next.
 
Not disputing it's intentional, but doesn't change my view. While I don't condone what they did, or begin to advocate for them, what transpired previously in the game that lead to their actions?

I have a difficult time believing they arbitrarily decided to do what they did without real or imagined provocation.

What could possibly make that ok? I'm just curious...in what scenario would you be able to condone this? Those two OBVIOUSLY thought it was a "good course of action". So what?

Regardless of the provocation, those two players should be done for the rest of the year and should be facing charges.
 
I could throw all sorts of hypotheticals out there a person/referee could say or do away from the game, before the game or during the game that would lead somebody/players to take matters into their own hands and retaliate.

I'm not saying they're right or justified in what they did. People/kids can act emotionally and carelessly.

10 seconds or how ever long that clip lasted is too short of a window to indicate "there's nothing this ref could have done ......" To do so is overreacting.

If one was my kid I would be very upset and both. I would also like to be pragmatic and ask "what lead to your goonish behavior?"

Or maybe I wouldn't need to because kids all too often get the sense of justice and acceptable behavior at home.
 
What could possibly make that ok? I'm just curious...in what scenario would you be able to condone this? Those two OBVIOUSLY thought it was a "good course of action". So what?

Regardless of the provocation, those two players should be done for the rest of the year and should be facing charges.
You always need context. It looks terrible, but you need context and I hate it when people watch a snippet and say they've seen all they need to see and make their decisions based off it solely. Those people are idiots. What if the red had s gun? Unlikely, but what if he did? Would you feel different?
 
I could throw all sorts of hypotheticals out there a person/referee could say or do away from the game, before the game or during the game that would lead somebody/players to take matters into their own hands and retaliate.

I'm not saying they're right or justified in what they did. People/kids can act emotionally and carelessly.

10 seconds or how ever long that clip lasted is too short of a window to indicate "there's nothing this ref could have done ......" To do so is overreacting.

If one was my kid I would be very upset and both. I would also like to be pragmatic and ask "what lead to your goonish behavior?"

Or maybe I wouldn't need to because kids all too often get the sense of justice and acceptable behavior at home.

They were pissed about calls they didn't like. Two of their teammates had been ejected. What else do you need to know? And there was nothing that ref could have done...he was targeted from behind in a cheap shot. I don't care how bad a call might have been, there is never justification for this kind of behavior. If it's my kid, I wouldn't care what he was basing it on - it's indefensible. Those two are cowards and shouldn't see another field for at least the rest of this season. Period.
 
You always need context. It looks terrible, but you need context and I hate it when people watch a snippet and say they've seen all they need to see and make their decisions based off it solely. Those people are idiots. What if the red had s gun? Unlikely, but what if he did? Would you feel different?

Seriously? You think those two were protecting the fans from a terrorist? You're trying waaaay too hard.
 
It a football play. You see the complete play. What is the worst thing the umpire could have done? May a bad call on a previous play? That sure a hell doesn't deserve being targeted by the safety.

I've play some football and have watched a lot over the years I don't recall ever seeing a play like that. I've seen the umpire hit may times in the course of a play but always because the play was directly at the umpire.
 
Seriously? You think those two were protecting the fans from a terrorist? You're trying waaaay too hard.
Highly unlikely, but it gets my point across. You need context before you jump to conclusions on a 20 second video clip. Weren't there wing nuts jumping in on both sides of the planned parenthood videos? How do we know this is even a real video?
 
Highly unlikely, but it gets my point across. You need context before you jump to conclusions on a 20 second video clip. Weren't there wing nuts jumping in on both sides of the planned parenthood videos? How do we know this is even a real video?

No, it doesn't. At all. It's overreaching on your part to try and justify your point. As was noted, you see the entire play. There is nothing this ref could possibly have done to justify this attack. If you're just curious as to why these players thought they should do this, that's one thing and you should just say so. But whether you mean to or not, you appear to be trying desperately to allow for some defense for their actions.
 
Bad call is what lead to the ambush. I now know more. While I certainly didn't condone or find their actions in anyway justifiable, I wanted to know more than that video show.

So far I've only heard they were ejected. More than that better occur.

I certainly hope their coach had no knowledge or was in anyway duplicitous in their actions.
 
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