I asked because I have no idea who you are.
So, then I don't understand that if your entire existence revolves in the way you state, wouldn't you be completely aware why the perception is what it is and so it shouldn't be 'odd' to you at all?
Did anyone see Brands' post-tournament interview?
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I asked because I have no idea who you are.
So, then I don't understand that if your entire existence revolves in the way you state, wouldn't you be completely aware why the perception is what it is and so it shouldn't be 'odd' to you at all?
You wrote all this at last call didn’t you? How did you type through the tears?
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Willie knows a lot of the mindset of recruits out there. I personally think his rankings are the best in the business.
Davis was never meant to be the 125. With injures to others he stepped up. He did well considering. Won the Big10. Faltered at the nationals. I don’t think you’ll find any penn state fan booing Davis. Not too bad for a freshman. Kinda like Kasak a freshman stepping in for SVN.
I’m sure Davis and Nagao will be battling for 133 next year. No weights are just given at penn state.
you guys are high.
Davis had a fantastic year. won the freakin big ten as a true freshman. lost two close ones to two NCAA's (one being the champ).
Davis had a fantastic year. won the freakin big ten as a true freshman. lost two close ones to two NCAA's (one being the champ).
He's ours so get lost.
I envy you moving to Idaho. I've thought about it myself. Beautiful beyond belief.
Noice. I really enjoyed my time living in Boise and paddling the wild rivers.
I wish, though close, I'm a father to three and my 17 year old daughter and 13 year old daughter I drove to a concert at The Warfield in SF while we live in Santa Clara. Intoxicated hopelessly is easier to handle 😂
How about you tell them to hire you? If you're truly interested, show it and express that interest.
Might be worth a try, but maybe offer the idea to Beth first, along with your tips on how Iowa can draw more elite recruits. I think Willie would look good in a black and gold......tie.
Sorry. ISU fan here. Why do some prefer Terry over Tom as HC?
I personally don't like Willie and I trust him as far as I could throw him, but he does have a good eye and his rankings are usually pretty damn good.
But he says stuff like this a few times a year, that a program should hire him as a recruiting director, then it goes nowhere. Then he says it again 5 or 6 months later.
So, has he actually tried broaching this subject with anyone or is he just pissing it into the wind?
I don't think anyone would prefer Terry over Tom as head coach. He's simply too volatile, but people have been throwing the idea for several years that he should be the head coach of the Hawkeye Wrestling Club.
They do more with a heck of a lot less than almost anyone. That’s the point. They shouldn’t be in the same conversation as Iowa and Ohio State and Michigan, etc. But they are.
disagree entirely. Cornell has a massive amount of benefits and things working in its favor.
but that's not even the point, so, whatever.
but that's not even the point, so, whatever.
Many positives -- great school, beautiful campus, ability to grey shirt, nice standalone wrestling facility, large endowment. But their academic admission standards must put them out of the running for a bunch of otherwise talented high school wrestlers, no?
not nearly as much as you'd think. they have a nice academic loophole as well as a financial one.
Ivy League is shut down for two years for Covid.
No graduate transfers.
No redshirts.
No athletic scholarships.
Name me another Ivy League school doing anything near what Cornell does in wrestling
They do a lot of great things; they invented the grey shirt. But to say they have the same advantages as a Michigan or Ohio State or Iowa?
I guess you’d know and if you feel like sharing, I’d like to learn.
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This is entirely wrong. There were no expectations for Davis at all this season. 125 was supposed to be the return of Robbie Howard from injury finally. If he couldn’t get healthy, then people were saying Gary Steen leveled up from last year. Howard obviously is still not there health wise, and Davis and Steen started the year alternating starts. There were no expectations for Davis until he started winning. His match against Kaylor was a revelation. From that point, he was the guy, but still, any expectations for him even when his ranking shot up to the top of the class were in large part driven by the fact that 125 this year was a free for all with no favorites. Davis lost two close matches and failed to place, but so what, he had a fantastic year that far exceeded expectations.
Also, people aren’t now looking to replace him with Lilledahl suddenly because he “failed” at nationals. Lilledahl is a world class recruit who is #1 overall. It was the expectation that he would immediately take over if he doesn’t redshirt since the day he committed (when very few people even knew who Braeden Davis was). He was recruited over Howard, not Davis.
Recruiting isn’t as big of a problem as the perception right now because two of the Iowa blue chip recruits, Jesuroga and Chittum, aren’t here for whatever reason and never stepped on the mat for Iowa. If they were here now, the recruiting end wouldn’t look so dire. Penn State is obviously winning recruiting, but Iowa isn’t losing recruiting to anyone else. Gabe and Angelo are both top level can’t miss blue chip recruits, and DeLuca is pretty close, too.
What recruits do when they get here is a bigger issue. Spencer lived up to the hype until the very end, but he was a generational recruit. Other top 5 recruits like Marinelli and PK struggle to get a couple AA finishes whereas top 15-20 Levi Haines who lost to Rathjen as a junior is a finalist as a true frosh and then an undefeated champion and Hodge finalist. That’s a training/coaching issue, not recruiting.
I think it's both. We don't get many top recruits. And the ones we get don't usually have the kinds of careers we expect. Penn State gets more top recruits, and has better results with them. Hence a massive gap.
I don't know what this has to do with their competitiveness. We're three championship years removed from it and Cornell was a force both before and after.
Touche
Not really true outside of the semantic definition of 'redshirt'. a lot of the incoming kids take a year prior and several have greyshirted over the years.
If your family makes less than ~ 160k / yr you literally go to Cornell for free. FREE
Name me another Ivy League school that has the advantages that Cornell does, including academic admission.
I'm not sure I said that they have the same advantages as the above programs.
My contention is not that Cornell SHOULD be as good as they are or that Rob Koll and Mike Grey aren't awesome. It's just that the narrative that that's a tough place to be competitive is absolutely incorrect.
It's one of the best gigs in the sport.
TBF, your first words were “disagree entirely” to a post in which I had written “ They shouldn’t be in the same conversation as Iowa and Ohio State and Michigan, etc. But they are.”
all good. obviously they the Ivy-ish academic bar. but that's made more attainable by the TC3 route which gets kids in that would have absolutely zero shot at any other of the Ivies (and some non-ivies as well).
that being said, they have, and continue to, run a great and successful program that just about any school anywhere would be/should be proud of.
that being said, they have, and continue to, run a great and successful program that just about any school anywhere would be/should be proud of.
