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Did I miss the JBo KO thread?

He said he missed because the record deserved to stay in Chris Street's name. And guess what? The record is still in Chris' name. People applauded him for that. Chris' parents were deeply touched.

And now, after he gets sucker punched, you are going back in time, trying to find fault in him regarding that special moment that Iowa fans shed a few tears & celebrated?

And I bet if you had this discussion with Chris Streets' parents, they would be shocked you would bring this up & end up having more problem with your character than Jordan's.

The record is in Chris's name but he's no longer the subject of the record and he never will be again!
 
This is a message board, so a place to express opinions. Here is one on this subject:

In any conflict, it is natural, and even part of our legal system, to assign blame. Both in my role as a parent and a leader of a business, I have found discussions of contribution more fruitful than conversations to assign blame. When people see their contribution to the situation, they can see how their actions contributed to creating the situation, and then how different choices on their part might might have resulted in a different outcome. JBO, from what I can see in the video, did not punch himself, yet it can be seen that he might have contributed to the situation escalating. While he has the consequences of being punched and seemingly knocked out, the consequences to the puncher remain with him (has he been identified?)

Cancel culture seems to ostracize people for something said or done, especially on social media. Combine this event, a video captured on a cell phone then shared widely on social media, with JBO's social media presence, and it is going to be bandied about here and elsewhere. What I detest about that is it assigns identify value judgements to an individual, often based on one choice. I get some are linking multiple things as a trend indicator of JBO's personality. When cancel culture takes over at work, it seems like we are trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If my best performing sales employee is identified as the best, then some think they can't be coached when we all know we all need to keep improving. In the same vane, a substandard overall performer might be the single best performer at a given task or work behavior, yet if they are labelled a bad employee, then we can't use them as a positive example of that behavior. Many posts in this thread seem to be much more about blame and identity rather the gleaning the lessons to be learned about choices and consequences.

The quote from Joaquin Miller comes to mind...
In men whom men condemn as ill
I find so much of goodness still.
In men whom men pronounce divine
I find so much of sin and blot
I hesitate to draw a line
Between the two, where God has not.


...and now I can't believe I just typed all of that on a sports fan message board! Do I self cancel now?
 
This is a message board, so a place to express opinions. Here is one on this subject:

In any conflict, it is natural, and even part of our legal system, to assign blame. Both in my role as a parent and a leader of a business, I have found discussions of contribution more fruitful than conversations to assign blame. When people see their contribution to the situation, they can see how their actions contributed to creating the situation, and then how different choices on their part might might have resulted in a different outcome. JBO, from what I can see in the video, did not punch himself, yet it can be seen that he might have contributed to the situation escalating. While he has the consequences of being punched and seemingly knocked out, the consequences to the puncher remain with him (has he been identified?)

Cancel culture seems to ostracize people for something said or done, especially on social media. Combine this event, a video captured on a cell phone then shared widely on social media, with JBO's social media presence, and it is going to be bandied about here and elsewhere. What I detest about that is it assigns identify value judgements to an individual, often based on one choice. I get some are linking multiple things as a trend indicator of JBO's personality. When cancel culture takes over at work, it seems like we are trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If my best performing sales employee is identified as the best, then some think they can't be coached when we all know we all need to keep improving. In the same vane, a substandard overall performer might be the single best performer at a given task or work behavior, yet if they are labelled a bad employee, then we can't use them as a positive example of that behavior. Many posts in this thread seem to be much more about blame and identity rather the gleaning the lessons to be learned about choices and consequences.

The quote from Joaquin Miller comes to mind...
In men whom men condemn as ill
I find so much of goodness still.
In men whom men pronounce divine
I find so much of sin and blot
I hesitate to draw a line
Between the two, where God has not.


...and now I can't believe I just typed all of that on a sports fan message board! Do I self cancel now?


Quite thought provoking, and well written. Thanks JJ
 
There is a reason this isnt getting more publicity and it isnt because Jordan was a victim. That statement to the news by Fran is going to look very pathetic by the end of this.



If you throw full drinks and chuck ice cubes at people in a wedding party you deserve to get your ass kicked.
 
There is a reason this isnt getting more publicity and it isnt because Jordan was a victim. That statement to the news by Fran is going to look very pathetic by the end of this.



If you throw full drinks and chuck ice cubes at people in a wedding party you deserve to get your ass kicked.

Where did you read/hear he was throwing full drinks?
 
He scored zero again Oregon because that’s where his ice chucking began.
You missed the point. It was said sarcastically. He didn't score 0 points for headlines as he didn't tie, then miss on the free throw record for headlines.

To speculate otherwise is pretty ridiculous. That was my point.
 
For those of you who are still on the fence about this I pose this question to you:


It's your daughter's bridal party night. You are there watching her celebrate with her group of friends and future husbands friends and celebrating their night together. Some asshole is chucking Ice at them from the second floor and after several attempts to get him to stop one of your future son in laws buddies, a big dude, says something like "I'm going to knock that asshole out". Are you going to stop that guy from going after the douchbag ice thrower or are you going to grin when you watch his limp body hit the floor knowing he got served trying to ruin your daughter's night? Are you going to say " no I think we should just walk away, it's just a night, no big deal some butt**** is trying to ruin it" or are you going to say something cheese dick like "back in my day I woulda whooped that guys ass"?


If you take away the iowa basketball player aspect of this it is a no brainer. Jordan got what he deserved.



*if everything being reported is true.
 
For those of you who are still on the fence about this I pose this question to you:


It's your daughter's bridal party night. You are there watching her celebrate with her group of friends and future husbands friends and celebrating their night together. Some asshole is chucking Ice at them from the second floor and after several attempts to get him to stop one of your future son in laws buddies, a big dude, says something like "I'm going to knock that asshole out". Are you going to stop that guy from going after the douchbag ice thrower or are you going to grin when you watch his limp body hit the floor knowing he got served trying to ruin your daughter's night? Are you going to say " no I think we should just walk away, it's just a night, no big deal some butt**** is trying to ruin it" or are you going to say something cheese dick like "back in my day I woulda whooped that guys ass"?


If you take away the iowa basketball player aspect of this it is a no brainer. Jordan got what he deserved.



*if everything being reported is true.


so, no full drinks were dumped on anyone?

you keep changing your story.

hopefully you get what you deserve, too
 
For those of you who are still on the fence about this I pose this question to you:


It's your daughter's bridal party night. You are there watching her celebrate with her group of friends and future husbands friends and celebrating their night together. Some asshole is chucking Ice at them from the second floor and after several attempts to get him to stop one of your future son in laws buddies, a big dude, says something like "I'm going to knock that asshole out". Are you going to stop that guy from going after the douchbag ice thrower or are you going to grin when you watch his limp body hit the floor knowing he got served trying to ruin your daughter's night? Are you going to say " no I think we should just walk away, it's just a night, no big deal some butt**** is trying to ruin it" or are you going to say something cheese dick like "back in my day I woulda whooped that guys ass"?


If you take away the iowa basketball player aspect of this it is a no brainer. Jordan got what he deserved.



*if everything being reported is true.
He ruined the wedding throwing ice at a bar at 2 in the morning?

I'm not condoning the actions of JBo if the accounts are true but to say he ruined a bride's big day is frankly hilarious hyperbole.
 
He ruined the wedding throwing ice at a bar at 2 in the morning?

I'm not condoning the actions of JBo if the accounts are true but to say he ruined a bride's big day is frankly hilarious.
It was that first sentence about it being the bridal party night that lost you wasn't it?
 
For those of you who are still on the fence about this I pose this question to you:


It's your daughter's bridal party night. You are there watching her celebrate with her group of friends and future husbands friends and celebrating their night together. Some asshole is chucking Ice at them from the second floor and after several attempts to get him to stop one of your future son in laws buddies, a big dude, says something like "I'm going to knock that asshole out". Are you going to stop that guy from going after the douchbag ice thrower or are you going to grin when you watch his limp body hit the floor knowing he got served trying to ruin your daughter's night? Are you going to say " no I think we should just walk away, it's just a night, no big deal some butt**** is trying to ruin it" or are you going to say something cheese dick like "back in my day I woulda whooped that guys ass"?


If you take away the iowa basketball player aspect of this it is a no brainer. Jordan got what he deserved.



*if everything being reported is true.

Okay, I'll bite. If he was actually being that big of a douche, surely he has a history of that type of behavior, right? This is the first I've ever heard of Bohannon being that much of a twat waffle. Surely there are other examples of this type of behavior?

In terms of the substance of your question, IF all that is true, yes, someone behaving like that gets no sympathy from me. Iowa basketball player, intentionally missing a free throw, etc. does not preclude anyone from natural consequences.
 
He ruined the wedding throwing ice at a bar at 2 in the morning?

I'm not condoning the actions of JBo if the accounts are true but to say he ruined a bride's big day is frankly hilarious hyperbole.

but JBo dumped drinks on people.

at least that's what we were told.

or maybe not, because the story keeps changing.
 
Okay, I'll bite. If he was actually being that big of a douche, surely he has a history of that type of behavior, right? This is the first I've ever heard of Bohannon being that much of a twat waffle. Surely there are other examples of this type of behavior?

In terms of the substance of your question, IF all that is true, yes, someone behaving like that gets no sympathy from me. Iowa basketball player, intentionally missing a free throw, etc. does not preclude anyone from natural consequences.
Did you not see the story about him and the parking maid?
 
For those of you who are still on the fence about this I pose this question to you:


It's your daughter's bridal party night. You are there watching her celebrate with her group of friends and future husbands friends and celebrating their night together. Some asshole is chucking Ice at them from the second floor and after several attempts to get him to stop one of your future son in laws buddies, a big dude, says something like "I'm going to knock that asshole out". Are you going to stop that guy from going after the douchbag ice thrower or are you going to grin when you watch his limp body hit the floor knowing he got served trying to ruin your daughter's night? Are you going to say " no I think we should just walk away, it's just a night, no big deal some butt**** is trying to ruin it" or are you going to say something cheese dick like "back in my day I woulda whooped that guys ass"?


If you take away the iowa basketball player aspect of this it is a no brainer. Jordan got what he deserved.



*if everything being reported is true.

I would not want one of my future son-in-law's buddies to start a fight to knock out the douchebag as I would not want him to get in trouble. I also believe that my daughter would not like there to be a fight on her bridal party night. I would try to handle it myself by either talking to security or management at the bar or talk to the douchebag myself to try and resolve the situation. I would not send someone over to address the situation and would definitely not stand there and grin as you would apparently do.
 
What story is changing the factthat in my hypothetical I didnt add "pouring drinks" I figured the rest painted enough of a picture of douchbagness.

so, he did or did not pour full drinks on people?

those were the key words you used: FULL DRINKS

People must have gotten soaked...unless they didn't because your story has changed.

People like you who can't keep your stories straight deserve to be sucker punched!
 
so, he did or did not pour full drinks on people?

those were the key words you used: FULL DRINKS

People must have gotten soaked...unless they didn't because your story has changed.

People like you who can't keep your stories straight deserve to be sucker punched!
I'll type slower this time.


It is being reported by several sources not only was Jbo throwing ice he had also thrown full drinks in plastic cups at people. I did not add that specific situation to my hypothetical question because I didnt think I even needed to go that far to prove my point.



Make sense?
 
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I've seen references to it on here. I don't know the story. Did he whip it out with the hope of getting out of a parking ticket?

Jordan talked about this during one of his podcasts. I have also heard the other athletes talk about the parking at the complex. They have said that there is limited parking and attendants seem to be standing around waiting for the meters to expire to pass out tickets. There is some frustration that they have to pay to park to go and work out for their sport, which I can understand. I do not believe that Jordan had an issue with the attendants as much as with the overall system.
 
Jordan talked about this during one of his podcasts. I have also heard the other athletes talk about the parking at the complex. They have said that there is limited parking and attendants seem to be standing around waiting for the meters to expire to pass out tickets. There is some frustration that they have to pay to park to go and work out for their sport, which I can understand. I do not believe that Jordan had an issue with the attendants as much as with the overall system.

@Whiskeydeltadeltatango, that's the example of JBo's previous douchebag behavior?
 
I'll type slower this time.


It is being reported by several sources not only was Jbo throwing ice he had also thrown full drinks in plastic cups at people. I did not add that specific situation to my hypothetical question because I didnt think I even needed to go that far to prove my point.



Make sense?

I have not seen the same information that you have, but I do not have any sources. I would hope that this is not correct and Jordan was not acting in this manner. There does seem to be mounting evidence that Jordan was behaving poorly, possibly due to being overserved. I would have hoped that his friends would have helped reign in Jordan if he was behaving in this manner. Regardless, this is unacceptable behavior and very disappointing.
 
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