Did Jamie Pollard run Fred Hoiberg out of town?

[fredjr82]

The day after claiming the Diamond Head Classic championship in Hawaii in December 2013, the Iowa State men’s basketball team used luggage as beds and pillows in a hotel ballroom.

The Cyclones, on their way to the best start in school history, went without hotel rooms in order to save ISU from paying an extra night’s rate as they waited hours for their return flights to Iowa, sources with direct knowledge of the situation told the Ames Tribune.

“It was bush league,” one source said. “It was a mid-major move.”

It was one example of what multiple sources described as a pattern of “nickel and diming” of the men’s basketball program by the ISU athletic department and athletic director Jamie Pollard in the final years before Fred Hoiberg left to coach the Chicago Bulls in June.

“If Jamie would have handled things differently,” another source told the Ames Tribune, “I’m not so sure Fred would have left.”

Ames Tribune Link

 

[DanL53]

Ouch. It's worth it to see what Pollard makes per year. He doesn't seem to be "Nickel and dimed" too much.

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

Mods please move this to off topic or rivalry board

 

[StormHawk42]

Yeah, probably won't be too many good feelings between the Ames Trib and the administration any time soon. Hines is a pretty good journalist, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand Cyclone fans being pissed.

 

[hooper56]

This article gives a lot of insight into the cyclone bb program. Interesting that Pollard wanted Hoyburger's Transfer U's policies to end. Unbelievable that they treated their top ten bb team this way. There are implications to treating your programs and coaches this way. If these allegations are true then ISU is going to crumble and fail in a very big way.

 

[StormHawk42]

This article gives a lot of insight into the cyclone bb program. Interesting that Pollard wanted Hoyburger's Transfer U's policies to end. Unbelievable that they treated their top ten bb team this way. There are implications to treating your programs and coaches this way. If these allegations are true then ISU is going to crumble and fail in a very big way.

I think they'd get rid of Pollard before that kind of collapse would happen to save face

 

[David1979]

Basically this is old news. Pollard has always put himself before the programs. He ran Sanderson out of town and also very good coaches in track and volleyball because have how they felt they were treated by the athletic department.
I have never understood some ISU's fans love of Pollard. When he isn't making bad coaching/contract decisions he is running good coaches off. He also puts his foot in his mouth a couple times a year. He has done a good job of marketing but most of the increase in money they would have seen with or without him because it was just the way the TV contracts were headed. He is self righteous and a huge baby. He blocks people who tweet anything negative at him and he won't go on certain radio stations if he thinks they have said negative things about him. It is obvious their president doesn't trust him and that is why he was in on the bball coaching search. my guess is that he will follow Rhoads out the door.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Hoiberg would've left even if they were staying in 5* suites every road game. He is an NBA guy with an NBA background/mind and that's where he wants to be.

 

[fredjr82]

Mods please move this to off topic or rivalry board

Mods please move this to the "My life is so great that I whine about these type of things" board.

Thanks

 

[StormHawk42]

Pollard coming out swinging on the Murph and Andy show. Said Fred just texted him saying its BS. Who knows; frankly I don't care. I just enjoy the sideshow on CyFan. That's entertaining.

 

[fredjr82]

Pollard coming out swinging on the Murph and Andy show. Said Fred just texted him saying its BS. Who knows; frankly I don't care. I just enjoy the sideshow on CyFan. That's entertaining.

There are a lot of sources quoted in that article. I'm sure where there is some smoke, there is some fire. How much the reporter trumped up the article is yet to be seen but this may come back to bite JP in the ass regardless.

 

[Ronman]

Love this post:
Adoring Fred and still giving Pollard credit for what he's done aren't mutually exclusive to our fans.

That's the problem here at Iowa. I really like Coach McCaffery and have a lot of respect for him, but he just doesn't generate that necessary "adoration" factor.

 

[LaoHawk]

Okay, the truth is Jamie is a mole working for IA. He's doing a great job of destroying ISU's athletics...

 

[HerkyFan]

Clone fans will have a perfectly rational explanation won't they.

 

[fredjr82]

Clone fans will have a perfectly rational explanation won't they.

Apparently JP came on Murph and Andy and dismissed the whole thing. Sound like they're trying to get Hoiberg on the phone now.

 

[DanL53]

Pollard and Hoiberg on the radio. Pollard says some folks have an "axe to grind", Hoiberg says they had an unbelievable relationship and that he left to coach the Bulls, a team that can get free agents in the league where the best coaches are, or something like that.

Pollard said the reporter does a good job and wasn't faulting him so much as saying the sources are full of it.

Better watch your back Pollard! Fred says your relationship was unbelievable, so I don't know what to believe.

 

[LaoHawk]

Here's the story link http://www.sbnation.com/college-bas.../iowa-state-fred-hoiberg-hotel-contract-cheap

 

[fredjr82]

Here's the story link http://www.sbnation.com/college-bas.../iowa-state-fred-hoiberg-hotel-contract-cheap

I included the Ames Tribune link in my OP. Did you miss it?

 

[CyCity]

Talk about a crazy day, Hoiberg did not sound pleased to have to deal with this today and did not sound happy the article got published. Like usual, the truth probably lies in the middle somewhere

 

[HerkyFan]

This will do wonders for isu basketball recruiting. Come to isu and we will make you sleep on the floor in a ballroom.

People will line up to sign on for the royal treatment.

 

[StormHawk42]

Hoiberg did not sound happy to be addressing this matter today. Pretty much dismissed the whole thing like JP. Hines probably has some answering to do; unless of course he's already packed his bags for another job elsewhere. I really don't think it will hurt ISU that much. Also, the sleeping on their suitcases sounds like it was blown out of proportion.

Like I said, just enjoy the CyFan civil war and thank me later

 

[StormHawk42]

Lol and now Pollard taking to twitter as any professional would do.

Awesome.

 

[DanL53]

Hoiberg did not sound happy to be addressing this matter today. Pretty much dismissed the whole thing like JP. Hines probably has some answering to do; unless of course he's already packed his bags for another job elsewhere. I really don't think it will hurt ISU that much. Also, the sleeping on their suitcases sounds like it was blown out of proportion.

Like I said, just enjoy the CyFan civil war and thank me later

Don't give up yet. It does no good for Pollard or Hoiberg to support Hines' story. But Hines is no rumor monger either. He's plenty of "unnamed" sources, and would have expected backlash. Let's see where this goes.

 

[HerkyFan]

Lol and now Pollard taking to twitter as any professional would do.

Awesome.

isu being isu.

 

[DanL53]

Jamie Pollard ‏@IASTATEAD 43m43 minutes ago Ames, IA

Amazing that a paper runs untrue statements using unnamed sources - especially when @ISUMayor32 told them ahead of time they were not true.

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Hard swing by Pollard sends the ball over the net into Hines' court, we'll see if Hines can return it......

 

[HerkyFan]

Jamie Pollard ‏@IASTATEAD 43m43 minutes ago Ames, IA

Amazing that a paper runs untrue statements using unnamed sources - especially when @ISUMayor32 told them ahead of time they were not true.

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Hard swing by Pollard sends the ball over the net into Hines' court, we'll see if Hines can return it......

Hines stated on KXNO at 4:25 today that he met with Steve Malchow on Monday at approximately 10:30 am to talk about the story he was working on and asked for an interview with Jamie. Pollard then declined the opportunity for an interview and Hines offered to submit written question and again Pollard declined. Hines then stated he reached out multiple times to Hoiberg and he also refused comment.

Very different than what Pollard is saying. In fact most of the time you wouldn't comment when you know it is true.

 

[DanL53]

Hines stated on KXNO at 4:25 today that he met with Steve Malchow on Monday at approximately 10:30 am to talk about the story he was working on and asked for an interview with Jamie. Pollard then declined the opportunity for an interview and Hines offered to submit written question and again Pollard declined. Hines then stated he reached out multiple times to Hoiberg and he also refused comment.

Very different than what Pollard is saying. In fact most of the time you wouldn't comment when you know it is true.

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Hines just manages to get the ball over the net, he's got to do better than this to beat Pollard! Gotta hit that ball with authority! "I've got documentation proving Hoiberg wouldn't speak with me! Pollard's tweet is false!" Where's the documentation Hines!

 

[HerkyHopeful]

The hotel story surprises me. Years ago When the track team had a flight get cancelled, they rented a bus and drove to kc. There they got hotel rooms for only a few hours before flying out.

I'd be surprised if the same AD said to not get the bball team the hotel rooms for an extra night.

 

[HerkyFan]

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Hines just manages to get the ball over the net, he's got to do better than this to beat Pollard! Gotta hit that ball with authority! "I've got documentation proving Hoiberg wouldn't speak with me! Pollard's tweet is false!" Where's the documentation Hines!

Why isn't Pollard tweeting that the meetings with his Assistant AD Steve Malchow didn't take place? Why isn't he tweeting that Hines lied about the written list of questions?

Clone fans will have the answer I am sure.

 

[DanL53]

Why isn't Pollard tweeting that the meetings with his Assistant AD Steve Malchow didn't take place? Why isn't he tweeting that Hines lied about the written list of questions?

Clone fans will have the answer I am sure.

There you go! That's the stuff Hines is going to have to hit with.

 

[icu81222]

favorite part was that the administration allowed 12 of their own family members to travel for free to NCAA tourney but the asst coaches had to foot bill for their own family members.

Sounds fair....

 

[hooper56]

Of course Hines talked to someone with an axe to grind. When you treat people like shit they have an axe to grind. The AD and the basketball coach refused to comment until after the story was published. They both know what the truth is. Makes them both look petty. Frankly I think Hines treated ISU pretty well considering the rumors that have been floating around.

 

[freemanbrenner]

Not sure Hines and the people working at the Ames tribune would make something like this up. Marty and miller today thought that pollard should go and were very critical of hoiberg.

 

[Run&Blade]

Assistant coaches had to buy tickets for their family members for home games? If I read that correctly that is pathetic.

 

[Lone Clone]

The hotel story surprises me. Years ago When the track team had a flight get cancelled, they rented a bus and drove to kc. There they got hotel rooms for only a few hours before flying out.

I'd be surprised if the same AD said to not get the bball team the hotel rooms for an extra night.

This part of the story seems bogus as hell to me. What occurred would be standard procedure. More to the point, it would have been known well in advance -- as anybody who has ever seen a trip agenda for a sports team knows.

There was a gap of several hours between the time they had to check out of the hotel and the time they could board the plane. The alternatives were to kill a few hours in some manner -- not terribly difficult to do in Hawaii -- or to pay thousands of dollars for hotel rooms in which to spend a few hours.

As for the rest of it........I assume the anonymous sources are the Cyclone haters on this board.

 

[Boys5]

Assistant coaches had to buy tickets for their family members for home games? If I read that correctly that is pathetic.

You did not read that correctly, so.......

 

[HerkyFan]

This part of the story seems bogus as hell to me. What occurred would be standard procedure. More to the point, it would have been known well in advance -- as anybody who has ever seen a trip agenda for a sports team knows.

There was a gap of several hours between the time they had to check out of the hotel and the time they could board the plane. The alternatives were to kill a few hours in some manner -- not terribly difficult to do in Hawaii -- or to pay thousands of dollars for hotel rooms in which to spend a few hours.

As for the rest of it........I assume the anonymous sources are the Cyclone haters on this board.

Or if isu wasn't always going on the cheap they could have afforded a charter flight to leave when they wanted to.

I am sure this story will do wonders for isu's recruiting. Or maybe all future recruits will buy the story that only isu haters point out how things work at isu. Apparently clone fans will buy whatever Pollard sells them. No need to think on your own in the isu fan base, Jamie will tell you exactly what to believe and what not to.

 

[hawk-i bob]

... I don't really care what story is true or not true...but it is hilarious...Hoiberg was probably thinking holy crap...I left for the Bulls job...I don't need this.

 

[HerkyFan]

You did not read that correctly, so.......

isu goes on the cheap is what I read. I sure hope no one would ever bring this to the attention of future recruits. Pollard can always tell them it was just a bunch of lies.

They will buy that won't they?

 

[hawk-i bob]

Assistant coaches had to buy tickets for their family members for home games? If I read that correctly that is pathetic.

if this is true,,,it wouldn't surprise me part of the info provided Hines are former athletic employees and/or coaches...