Did Jamie Pollard run Fred Hoiberg out of town?

[Psyclone]

In your link Pollard said Hines was seeking comment on Wednesday and he was going with a story and Pollard stated very clearly that he believed seeking comment on Wednesday meant the story was already written. If Wednesday was the first opportunity that Pollard was afforded an to provide comment you and Pollard would both have a point.

Sadly, by Pollards' own admission Wednesday wasn't the first opportunity he had to comment on the story.

In the end Pollard had plenty of opportunity to comment on the story and yet he chose not to on multiple occasions.

Gosh, please listen again. Per Pollard, Travis put in a request on Monday to talk on Wednesday, when he had a deadline of Wednesday for his story.

But you're trying too hard to find fault with Iowa State subjects in the story. If you read the story carefully, and listen to both Hines, Pollard and Hoiberg closely; it's easy to conclude this story should not have been written. His point about the hotel rooms which consumed 10 paragraphs, was a non-story. His reporting of the need for assistants to buy tickets was just flat wrong. And his reporting that ISU did not buy NCAA tickets for assistants' family members, left out the important point that they were offered the opportunity for free Hawaii tickets instead, at their choice.

What's left after those items are cleared up is some disgruntled employees that have an ax to grind, and that Hines allowed himself to be taken on that ride. Despite all the noise this made for about 2 hours, until Pollard and Hoiberg spoke up, there's no story here folks. Now if one of the anonymous contacts wants to go public, maybe there's something to discuss. And Travis better hope so, because he is damaged goods. And that's too bad, because he had been doing a pretty good job prior to messing this up.

 

[Lone Clone]

My bad it was Arizona. It appears they don't take the cheap way out like isu does. But maybe Pollard can convince recruits the Trib article is just a bunch of lies.

http://m.tucson.com/sports/basketba...555c-a2b9-c8d99522b010.html?mobile_touch=true

No way to know, but I would bet a month's salary this was a package the university put together that involved fans. Not a bad idea, actually.

And you definitely are 100.

 

[Lone Clone]

Gosh, please listen again. Per Pollard, Travis put in a request on Monday to talk on Wednesday, when he had a deadline of Wednesday for his story.

But you're trying too hard to find fault with Iowa State subjects in the story. If you read the story carefully, and listen to both Hines, Pollard and Hoiberg closely; it's easy to conclude this story should not have been written. His point about the hotel rooms which consumed 10 paragraphs, was a non-story. His reporting of the need for assistants to buy tickets was just flat wrong. And his reporting that ISU did not buy NCAA tickets for assistants' family members, left out the important point that they were offered the opportunity for free Hawaii tickets instead, at their choice.

What's left after those items are cleared up is some disgruntled employees that have an ax to grind, and that Hines allowed himself to be taken on that ride. Despite all the noise this made for about 2 hours, until Pollard and Hoiberg spoke up, there's no story here folks. Now if one of the anonymous contacts wants to go public, maybe there's something to discuss. And Travis better hope so, because he is damaged goods. And that's too bad, because he had been doing a pretty good job prior to messing this up.

You are talking to 89and91.

 

[Lone Clone]

If Pollard and Hoiberg had commented on the story when given the opportunity much of the discussion wouldn't be taking place.

Hoiberg told Hines ahead of time the story was not true. Hines then reported that Hoiberg had refused to comment.

 

[HerkyFan]

No way to know, but I would bet a month's salary this was a package the university put together that involved fans. Not a bad idea, actually.

And you definitely are 100.

100 what?

Package or not as I said isu is too cheap to do what another school has.

 

[HerkyFan]

Gosh, please listen again. Per Pollard, Travis put in a request on Monday to talk on Wednesday, when he had a deadline of Wednesday for his story.

But you're trying too hard to find fault with Iowa State subjects in the story. If you read the story carefully, and listen to both Hines, Pollard and Hoiberg closely; it's easy to conclude this story should not have been written. His point about the hotel rooms which consumed 10 paragraphs, was a non-story. His reporting of the need for assistants to buy tickets was just flat wrong. And his reporting that ISU did not buy NCAA tickets for assistants' family members, left out the important point that they were offered the opportunity for free Hawaii tickets instead, at their choice.

What's left after those items are cleared up is some disgruntled employees that have an ax to grind, and that Hines allowed himself to be taken on that ride. Despite all the noise this made for about 2 hours, until Pollard and Hoiberg spoke up, there's no story here folks. Now if one of the anonymous contacts wants to go public, maybe there's something to discuss. And Travis better hope so, because he is damaged goods. And that's too bad, because he had been doing a pretty good job prior to messing this up.

No that is not what Hines said and you know it. Hines followed protocol and was told Pollard wouldn't participate. When given a second opportunity to answer written questions Pollard refused again. So the saying that the article was written prior to Pollard being able to comment on it is false and anyone listening to the podcasts can easily understand that.

 

[HerkyFan]

Hoiberg told Hines ahead of time the story was not true. Hines then reported that Hoiberg had refused to comment.

If Hoiberg said it was false to Hines then why didn't he go on the record to do so? Why not have that in the story to begin with?

 

[Psyclone]

You are talking to 89and91.

Thanks LC. That explains why he was so dense.

 

[I4cy]

100 what?

Package or not as I said isu is too cheap to do what another school has.

another day and more obsession with big bro
carry on hawks carry on

 

[HerkyFan]

Thanks LC. That explains why he was so dense.

Right, if Pollard says it then it is gospel and no one is allowed to question it or use simple logic.

 

[HerkyFan]

Iowa is big bro so who is obsessing?

 

[CyCity]

So you are saying Hines would go the trouble of interviewing both Hoiberg and Pollard and then use none of that in the story. Then all the editors at the paper would also overlook the interviews.

Of course when the story broke had Hoiberg and Pollard given comment and it didin't show up in a the story then there isn't any conclusion other than Hines and the Trib had an axe to grind. Which I am sure Pollard would have been all over and rightfully so.

Too bad for you and clone fans that isn't what took place.

I didn't say that at all. I just told you what Pollard and Hoiberg said on why they didn't go on record with the story. I don't speak for either of them

 

[HerkyFan]

I didn't say that at all. I just told you what Pollard and Hoiberg said on why they didn't go on record with the story. I don't speak for either of them

The point remains that Pollard and Hoiberg both had ample opportunity to comment on the story on record and neither chose to until after the fact.

 

[I4cy]

Iowa is big bro so who is obsessing?

Not one post on the ISU board today about eiu BUT around 100 on CR hawk boards, might want to rethink your post..................
Carry on little bros carry on

 

[CyCity]

The point remains that Pollard and Hoiberg both had ample opportunity to comment on the story on record and neither chose to until after the fact.

I guess I don't see why it matters? The entire story could be true but it doesn't matter because Fred denied it and that's all anyone cares about

 

[HerkyFan]

Not one post on the ISU board today about eiu BUT around 100 on CR hawk boards, might want to rethink your post..................
Carry on little bros carry on

Yet here is a little bro trying to defend isu. My point stands and you can't defeat it. Iowa is big bro.

 

[HerkyFan]

I guess I don't see why it matters? The entire story could be true but it doesn't matter because Fred denied it and that's all anyone cares about

If it isn't true today or yesterday then it wasn't true when Hoiberg was asked for comment and yet he chose not to go on the record.

 

[CyCity]

If it isn't true today or yesterday then it wasn't true when Hoiberg was asked for comment and yet he chose not to go on the record.

It doesn't matter if he went on record or not. He came out and denied it.

I guess I don't see what you're trying to get at. This whole story could be true and Pollard could be the biggest a** hole in the world but Fred denied it and his side of the story carries more weight than anything else on the record or off the record

 

[HerkyFan]

It doesn't matter if he went on record or not. He came out and denied it.

I guess I don't see what you're trying to get at. This whole story could be true and Pollard could be the biggest a** hole in the world but Fred denied it and his side of the story carries more weight than anything else on the record or off the record

The point is Hoiberg has his legacy to protect and thus he can't say anything other than he and Jamie had no issues regardless if that is true or not.

 

[HerkyFan]

It doesn't matter if he went on record or not. He came out and denied it.

I guess I don't see what you're trying to get at. This whole story could be true and Pollard could be the biggest a** hole in the world but Fred denied it and his side of the story carries more weight than anything else on the record or off the record

This thread proves that Pollard and Hoiberg could come out tomorrow and say the Earth is flat and clone fans would agree and then defend it to the death.

 

[CyCity]

The point is Hoiberg has his legacy to protect and thus he can't say anything other than he and Jamie had no issues regardless if that is true or not.

I don't think it's him protecting his legacy as much as him protecting ISU. He wants ISU to succeed more than anything else in my opinion

 

[HerkyFan]

I don't think it's him protecting his legacy as much as him protecting ISU. He wants ISU to succeed more than anything else in my opinion

Pollard and Hoiberg could come out tomorrow and say the Earth is flat and not only would clone fans buy it they would defend it to the death.

 

[CyCity]

Pollard and Hoiberg could come out tomorrow and say the Earth is flat and not only would clone fans buy it they would defend it to the death.

Hoiberg yes, Pollard no. Most ISU fans don't like Pollard as much as Iowa fans think they do. He's pumped too much sunshine without results on the football field for him to be bought into anymore

 

[HerkyFan]

I don't think it's him protecting his legacy as much as him protecting ISU. He wants ISU to succeed more than anything else in my opinion

Hoiberg yes, Pollard no. Most ISU fans don't like Pollard as much as Iowa fans think they do. He's pumped too much sunshine without results on the football field for him to be bought into anymore

So Hoiberg could be lying and clone fans would buy it anyway.

 

[CyCity]

So Hoiberg could be lying and clone fans would buy it anyway.

If Hoiberg says it isn't true everyone buys it. Iowa fans might not but everyone else does and that's all that ends up mattering

 

[HerkyFan]

If Hoiberg says it isn't true everyone buys it. Iowa fans might not but everyone else does and that's all that ends up mattering

Hoiberg can lie and it doesn't matter clone fans buy it. Not only do they buy it they will defend it to the death.

 

[CyCity]

Hoiberg can lie and it doesn't matter clone fans buy it. Not only do they buy it they will defend it to the death.

Is that news or something? If Hoiberg says something everyone buys into it. National media, local media, ISU fans, casual fans, etc.

 

[HerkyFan]

Is that news or something? If Hoiberg says something everyone buys into it. National media, local media, ISU fans, casual fans, etc.

You actually believe what you posted don't you? Wow, no myopia there.

 

[Legend12]

My bad it was Arizona. It appears they don't take the cheap way out like isu does. But maybe Pollard can convince recruits the Trib article is just a bunch of lies.

So because Arizona takes charter flights to some of their games, and ISU does not take a charter to all of their games, that is ISU taking the cheap way out?

Holy hell does that not make sense.

 

[hawk-i bob]

maybe this has already been mentioned (if so...sorry) ... whether one believes Pollard, Hoiberg or Hines...one thing seems to be certain...if Hines' sources are from within the athletic dept or were at one point ... there were or are some people who had or have issues with Pollard..

..this in itself doesn't make them right therefore doesn't make Pollard the bad guy..I find the article basically worthless...and no I do not believe Hoiberg left ISU because of Pollard...I believe it was his plan (desire) to take a NBA job when the opportunity presented itself....which is exactly what he did.

..the ISU fans I know ...convinced themselves Fred would never leave them...I can easily see them now blaming Pollard as the reason Fred left.

 

[HerkyFan]

So because Arizona takes charter flights to some of their games, and ISU does not take a charter to all of their games, that is ISU taking the cheap way out?

Holy hell does that not make sense.

isu goes cheap all the time. The Hawaii trip is just one example.

 

[cidhawkeye]

No way to know, but I would bet a month's salary this was a package the university put together that involved fans. Not a bad idea, actually.

And you definitely are 100.

Doesn't change the fact that he was asked to provide one, which he did.

 

[Run&Blade]

Don't believe anything you read unless I tell you it is ok. And please keep buying football tickets to support one of the worst football programs in the history of power conference football

- Jammie Pollard

 

[Myvue]

isu goes cheap all the time. The Hawaii trip is just one example.

and you know this how? such a loser.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Don't believe anything you read unless I tell you it is ok. And please keep buying football tickets to support one of the worst football programs in the history of power conference football

- Jammie Pollard

"One of"?

 

[iahawkeyes17]

I guess I don't see why it matters? The entire story could be true but it doesn't matter because Fred denied it and that's all any
CYCLONE FAN cares about

FIFY. Maybe shocking but not everyone outside of Ames is buying into Pollard and Hoiberg's comments after the fact of denying the request for interviews. Many outside Lames can see why Hoiberg would make comments after the story to try and save face for Pollard and ISU. For lot of non clone fans can see maybe not all but there is probably fair share of truth to the story.

Point and case from this previous post you had earlier-
Fred did not sound like he wanted to deal with any of this. He went public to deny it only to help out ISU. He'll always back up ISU regardless of how much of that story was true.

 

[CyCity]

FIFY. Maybe shocking but not everyone outside of Ames is buying into Pollard and Hoiberg's comments after the fact of denying the request for interviews. Many outside Lames can see why Hoiberg would make comments after the story to try and save face for Pollard and ISU. For lot of non clone fans can see maybe not all but there is probably fair share of truth to the story.

Point and case from this previous post you had earlier-
Fred did not sound like he wanted to deal with any of this. He went public to deny it only to help out ISU. He'll always back up ISU regardless of how much of that story was true.

Who isn't believing it? Every media source that picked it up updated their articles with Hoiberg's quotes.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Who isn't believing it? Every media source that picked it up updated their articles with Hoiberg's quotes.

That would imply that adding a quote means they believe it to be true. I would guess that many in the media don't think all quotes are true.

I glanced through a few things, Fred recalling his kids swimming with the players to find something to do in Hawaii for a flight and then later saying he didn't recall the waiting on the flight? Or did I read that wrong?

 

[CyCity]

That would imply that adding a quote means they believe it to be true. I would guess that many in the media don't think all quotes are true.

I glanced through a few things, Fred recalling his kids swimming with the players to find something to do in Hawaii for a flight and then later saying he didn't recall the waiting on the flight? Or did I read that wrong?

I haven't seen anyone of significance come out and say they don't believe it. Whether the story is all true or not or whether people believe it or not doesn't really matter if everyone is on board with what Fred said and that appears to be the case

 

[relishingwinning18]

Says the ISU fan perched on an Iowa site, LOL. I think there's a mixture of things at play here. Pollard was not the reason Hoiberg left, I think that part of the article was definitely someone's opinion. I think Pollard has a history of being cheap, whiny, and quite frankly a douchebag to anyone outside of the ISU fandome. ISU fans have to even see this. Travis Hines, an ISU homer, wouldn't have done this story, if he didn't feel confident it was true. Pollard could have put this to rest in the article if he didn't refuse to comment. That was very telling. FH was very careful with his comments on the radio, didn't throw JP under the bus, just said he owed JP for getting him in the business. What would FH gain, even if this was 100% true, by throwing JP under the bus on the radio? He would just come acrossed whiny too, throwing the athletic administration of the school he loves, under the bus. That's not who he is. Nothing in this article is really surprising, it's exactly how everyone thinks Pollard operates. He does some weird, look at me stuff, that just seems petty. The latest, when he was in the hospital after surgery, doing a message to all ISU fans, with his gown half open so everyone could see his scar was gross. He looked half dead, the video was unneeded. JP going on twitter is amateur.