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Did Jamie Pollard run Fred Hoiberg out of town?

isu goes on the cheap is what I read. I sure hope no one would ever bring this to the attention of future recruits. Pollard can always tell them it was just a bunch of lies.

They will buy that won't they?

"Guys, thanks for winning the tournament. We're going to celebrate by hanging out with our luggage in the ballroom until it's time to go to the plane."

And it can be verified with accounts that are on the record. That's going to look real good to future recruits. What's next? "Everyone gets a sack lunch and an apple! Plus one pint of milk! Now, don't eat it all at once, this is for the whole bus ride!"
 
Hoiberg did not sound happy to be addressing this matter today. Pretty much dismissed the whole thing like JP. Hines probably has some answering to do; unless of course he's already packed his bags for another job elsewhere. I really don't think it will hurt ISU that much. Also, the sleeping on their suitcases sounds like it was blown out of proportion.

Like I said, just enjoy the CyFan civil war and thank me later

Hoiberg and Pollard can dismiss everything. It doesn't make the story true or untrue. It does neither man any good publicly to say they had a difficult working relationship. Zip. zero. Hoiberg is an ISU alum and loves the school. He doesn't want to poison the well for any future coach there (or hurt his own chances of returning at some time). Pollard doesn't gain anything by acknowledging any difficulty with a high-profile coach.

There was too much detail in the story and if Hines isn't making up talking to 10 sources, then it's not hard to believe that there was some tension there. And this isn't all that unusual in any working relationship between a major college coach and an athletic director.
 
Hoiberg and Pollard can dismiss everything. It doesn't make the story true or untrue. It does neither man any good publicly to say they had a difficult working relationship. Zip. zero. Hoiberg is an ISU alum and loves the school. He doesn't want to poison the well for any future coach there (or hurt his own chances of returning at some time). Pollard doesn't gain anything by acknowledging any difficulty with a high-profile coach.

There was too much detail in the story and if Hines isn't making up talking to 10 sources, then it's not hard to believe that there was some tension there. And this isn't all that unusual in any working relationship between a major college coach and an athletic director.

I agree ... the real story in my thinking is... Hoiberg had a plan to exit ISU when he took the job in the first place.... as soon as the NBA opportunity came along... He knew he was leaving --- maybe Pollard helped that along -- maybe not...doesn't matter ... Fred Hoiberg was leaving ISU at some point (regardless)...thus the reason (I believe) .. he was quick to recruit some quick fixes with transfers. He was not at ISU for the long haul.

The ISU fans I knew ..were in denial & did not believe that Fred would leave his beloved college...they were wrong.
 
:p:D ... I don't really care what story is true or not true...but it is hilarious...Hoiberg was probably thinking holy crap...I left for the Bulls job...I don't need this.


This.....WTH cares about this non story. But glad FH is gone none the less
 
Or if isu wasn't always going on the cheap they could have afforded a charter flight to leave when they wanted to.

I am sure this story will do wonders for isu's recruiting. Or maybe all future recruits will buy the story that only isu haters point out how things work at isu. Apparently clone fans will buy whatever Pollard sells them. No need to think on your own in the isu fan base, Jamie will tell you exactly what to believe and what not to.
Can you name ANY college basketball program that charters planes to Hawaii?
 
You can't tell me it would cost that much to have late checkouts for the team. That kind of stuff is bush league for a successful power 5 program. I can guarantee you that KU isn't doing things on the cheap for their players and program. Pollard has admitted he is extremely cheap. He tried to claim on air that it would have cost $25,000 for late checkout. bullcrap. Hines said right in his article that they maintained a perfectly fine working relationship so for Fred to come on and say they had a good working relationship does not dispute anything in the story. For Sadler to not deny he confronted Pollard about the tickets for the family says it happened. Just as Pollard's failure to comment speaks volumes.

It is hilarious and also sad how so many ISU fans just believe whatever Pollard says and buys whatever he sells. I don't get it. He is just an athletic director but sometimes they act like he is the university and they must believe and defend him no matter what.
 
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You can't tell me it would cost that much to have late checkouts for the team. That kind of stuff is bush league for a successful power 5 program. I can guarantee you that KU isn't doing things on the cheap for their players and program. Pollard has admitted he is extremely cheap. He tried to claim on air that it would have cost $25,000 for late checkout. bullcrap. Hines said right in his article that they maintained a perfectly fine working relationship so for Fred to come on and say they had a good working relationship does not dispute anything in the story. For Sadler to not deny he confronted Pollard about the tickets for the family says it happened. Just as Pollard's failure to comment speaks volumes.

It is hilarious and also sad how so many ISU fans just believe whatever Pollard says and buys whatever he sells. I don't get it. He is just an athletic director but sometimes they act like he is the university and they must believe and defend him no matter what.

If Fred didn't come out and back the story I bet there would be a lot of ISU fans questioning Pollard. Fred is the golden boy, the story could be 90% true or 10% true but Hoiberg backing Pollard was all that mattered to make Hines not look credible
 
Most Hawaii flights leave the islands at night and you have to check out of hotel in the morning. When we went the hotel had an area to keep your bags and even provided a place to shower before you left hotel.

We went to the beach and just hung out for this period of six to eight hours.

I think this is very common. I am sure the hanging out time is more difficult when you fave an entire team to deal with.
 
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Well ISU just beat out Arizona for a recruit so I'm glad he committed even though he knows he would have to take a commercial flight if he went to Hawaii!

Cool but did that recruit have this article from the Trib when isu beat out Zona for this recruit?

I am sure isu being a tight wad plays great with all recruits. No one would use this article going forward would they? Pollard can always tell folks the article is just a bunch of lies though. Clone fans buy that why wouldn't recruits and their parents do the same?
 
Cool but did that recruit have this article from the Trib when isu beat out Zona for this recruit?

I am sure isu being a tight wad plays great with all recruits. I sure hope no one uses this article going forward. Pollard can always tell folks the article is just a bunch of lies though. Clone fans buy that why wouldn't recruits and their parents do the same?

Who knows, I'm glad he committed before it came out!
 
What's hilarious is that Pollard fired McCarney a year removed from back to back winning seasons. Chizik had two straight horrible years and Pollard wanted to give him a new contract to keep him. Rhoads had two straight horrible years and no firing. Oh and he gave him a huge contract after only having one winning season.

On the basketball side he fired Morgan a year removed from two straight post season births and a year from a NCAA birth. Then lets McDermott coach 5 years without ever having even a winning season without being fired. He also gave McDermott a horrible contract.

Pollard raised revenue to build new facilities and improve the stadium but a lot of the new money for the budget comes from new TV contracts not anything Pollard did. the most impressive thing Pollard does is get fans to buy tickets to watch a bad team. I don't know how much longer that can last though. Donors are starting to turn on him.

There is a reason Hoiberg interviewed for the Minnesota coaching job. He obviously was unhappy about something.
 
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Why doesn't Hines/Ames Trib just do a freedom of information request for all records surrounding the 2013 Diamond Head Classic and the alleged track travel also mentioned in this thread; to include, but not limited to:
* travel/plane........initial reservations and related expenses and any changes to same
* hotel...................initial reservations and check out times and any changes to same
* sign-offs.............who approved all initial and any changes
 
Hoiberg and Pollard can dismiss everything. It doesn't make the story true or untrue. It does neither man any good publicly to say they had a difficult working relationship. Zip. zero. Hoiberg is an ISU alum and loves the school. He doesn't want to poison the well for any future coach there (or hurt his own chances of returning at some time). Pollard doesn't gain anything by acknowledging any difficulty with a high-profile coach.

There was too much detail in the story and if Hines isn't making up talking to 10 sources, then it's not hard to believe that there was some tension there. And this isn't all that unusual in any working relationship between a major college coach and an athletic director.

This. And add to it that I can not think of another AD that tries to position himself as the face of the athletic program as much as Pollard does. He obviously has a large ego and I'm sure that it bothered him that FH had become the true face of the athletic department. I'm still surprised that Hines published the article. He is a strong supporter of ISU and had to have known this was going to hurt his access to the current regime. He must have felt strongly that it needed to be reported.
 
This. And add to it that I can not think of another AD that tries to position himself as the face of the athletic program as much as Pollard does. He obviously has a large ego and I'm sure that it bothered him that FH had become the true face of the athletic department. I'm still surprised that Hines published the article. He is a strong supporter of ISU and had to have known this was going to hurt his access to the current regime. He must have felt strongly that it needed to be reported.

What was Pollard's background before coming to the Clowns? I know there's a thing called Google but am too lazy to look it up today. He seems to be in over his head, especially as to his coaching hiring/firing decisions.

TIA
 
This. And add to it that I can not think of another AD that tries to position himself as the face of the athletic program as much as Pollard does. He obviously has a large ego and I'm sure that it bothered him that FH had become the true face of the athletic department. I'm still surprised that Hines published the article. He is a strong supporter of ISU and had to have known this was going to hurt his access to the current regime. He must have felt strongly that it needed to be reported.

OR Hines was encouraged by other power brokers behind the scenes to run with this? Maybe there is a rift between Pollard and the Prez or other ISU boosters? It seems like a risky move for the Trib to run this without some backing somewhere but who knows.
 
What was Pollard's background before coming to the Clowns? I know there's a thing called Google but am too lazy to look it up today. He seems to be in over his head, especially as to his coaching hiring/firing decisions.

TIA
He was associate athletics director at Wisconsin. Before that he was in the same position at Maryland.
 
If Fred didn't come out and back the story I bet there would be a lot of ISU fans questioning Pollard. Fred is the golden boy, the story could be 90% true or 10% true but Hoiberg backing Pollard was all that mattered to make Hines not look credible

So why didn't Fred deny it initially when he asked to interview him about it? Is it any surprise that the former coach and alumni who is now in the NBA is going to stick up for Pollard now after the article came out to assist with damage control. It would do no good for him and his former school to not do so. My guess is Freddie thought nothing would come from it initially and just blew off Hines and his interview.

The worst part for them is this isn't some guy from the DM Register, IC Press Citizen or CR Gazette who has a biased opinion against ISU this is their very own local Ames newspaper.
 
So why didn't Fred deny it initially when he asked to interview him about it? Is it any surprise that the former coach and alumni who is now in the NBA is going to stick up for Pollard now after the article came out to assist with damage control. It would do no good for him and his former school to not do so. My guess is Freddie thought nothing would come from it initially and just blew off Hines and his interview.

The worst part for them is this isn't some guy from the DM Register, IC Press Citizen or CR Gazette who has a biased for opinion against ISU this is their very own local Ames newspaper.

Fred did not sound like he wanted to deal with any of this. He went public to deny it only to help out ISU. He'll always back up ISU regardless of how much of that story was true.
 
Also important to note that the part of the story about Fred being unhappy about how Pollard handled the contract negotiation and the aftermath, i.e. blaming fred for higher priced tickets, was not said to be false and in fact Keith Murphy backed that part of the story up saying that he knows Fred was not happy about it.
 
OR Hines was encouraged by other power brokers behind the scenes to run with this? Maybe there is a rift between Pollard and the Prez or other ISU boosters? It seems like a risky move for the Trib to run this without some backing somewhere but who knows.
I really think it is his sports editor, Bobby La Gesse, that got him to run with this. La Gesse has been shown to be a loose cannon and seems to have an agenda. Hines has been a quality guy and this was out of character.

I say that assuming you are now up to speed with the events surrounding this so-called controversy. If not here is a quick summary.
  • The open 5 paragraphs and another 5 paragraphs in the middle of the article were regarding Pollard being to cheap to pay for another night in the hotel. The team checked out at noon of their departure date and had about 5 or 6 hours to kill before their flight. Some chose to go swimming and others apparently hung around in the hotel ballroom and "used their luggage as beds and pillows". The article gives the impression the team spent the night in the ballroom in lieu of having a room to sleep in. This is bunk as anyone who travels knows and is a weak start to his article.
  • The article talked about a verbal confrontation between then assistant, Doc Sadler, and an assistant AD David Harris about the university’s policy of charging the ISU staff’s families for transportation to San Antonio, ISU’s opening-round NCAA site in 2014. ISU picks up the cost for families to travel with the team to the NCAA sites. They do not do that for travel during the regular season. But since Hawaii is such a special destination, the athletic department offered the assistants the option to bring their families with them to Hawaii with the cost picked up by ISU, instead the NCAA site. Most, if not all, opted for the Hawaii offer. Personally, coming from the business world, I don't know why teams pick up the cost of family travel at all. That rarely in the business world, and it's usually a special circumstance.
  • The issue of "a change requiring assistant coaches to pay for home game tickets in 2014-15, which were previously provided free of charge" was denied by Pollard on the KXnO interview. He said they provide tickets and always did. The recipient is responsible for paying tax on that benefit, but that an IRS rule that is true for every institution.
That was really the extent of the specifics, other than passing along some comments from anonymous sources that said there was friction between Pollard and Hoiberg and that it may have resulted in Hoiberg going to the NBA. Both Pollard and Hoiberg came on KXnO and clearly and strongly stated that was not the case. You can choose to believe them or not, but when the two parties involved say it isn't true, it takes away the credibility of the anonymous sources and makes it appear that someone had an ax to grind. It totally discredits Hines, which is too bad as he seemed like a good guy and as I said before, I suspect La Gesse played a major part in this. Maybe that is unfair, but La Gesse has lost my trust long ago. Unless one of Hines' sources comes out in the public with something specific, he is going to have a long road back to regain his credibility. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Wayne Morgan wasn't one of the "nearly double-digit" sources. He has no love for Pollard and would probably do anything to discredit him.
 
I really think it is his sports editor, Bobby La Gesse, that got him to run with this. La Gesse has been shown to be a loose cannon and seems to have an agenda. Hines has been a quality guy and this was out of character.

I say that assuming you are now up to speed with the events surrounding this so-called controversy. If not here is a quick summary.
  • The open 5 paragraphs and another 5 paragraphs in the middle of the article were regarding Pollard being to cheap to pay for another night in the hotel. The team checked out at noon of their departure date and had about 5 or 6 hours to kill before their flight. Some chose to go swimming and others apparently hung around in the hotel ballroom and "used their luggage as beds and pillows". The article gives the impression the team spent the night in the ballroom in lieu of having a room to sleep in. This is bunk as anyone who travels knows and is a weak start to his article.
  • The article talked about a verbal confrontation between then assistant, Doc Sadler, and an assistant AD David Harris about the university’s policy of charging the ISU staff’s families for transportation to San Antonio, ISU’s opening-round NCAA site in 2014. ISU picks up the cost for families to travel with the team to the NCAA sites. They do not do that for travel during the regular season. But since Hawaii is such a special destination, the athletic department offered the assistants the option to bring their families with them to Hawaii with the cost picked up by ISU, instead the NCAA site. Most, if not all, opted for the Hawaii offer. Personally, coming from the business world, I don't know why teams pick up the cost of family travel at all. That rarely in the business world, and it's usually a special circumstance.
  • The issue of "a change requiring assistant coaches to pay for home game tickets in 2014-15, which were previously provided free of charge" was denied by Pollard on the KXnO interview. He said they provide tickets and always did. The recipient is responsible for paying tax on that benefit, but that an IRS rule that is true for every institution.
That was really the extent of the specifics, other than passing along some comments from anonymous sources that said there was friction between Pollard and Hoiberg and that it may have resulted in Hoiberg going to the NBA. Both Pollard and Hoiberg came on KXnO and clearly and strongly stated that was not the case. You can choose to believe them or not, but when the two parties involved say it isn't true, it takes away the credibility of the anonymous sources and makes it appear that someone had an ax to grind. It totally discredits Hines, which is too bad as he seemed like a good guy and as I said before, I suspect La Gesse played a major part in this. Maybe that is unfair, but La Gesse has lost my trust long ago. Unless one of Hines' sources comes out in the public with something specific, he is going to have a long road back to regain his credibility. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Wayne Morgan wasn't one of the "nearly double-digit" sources. He has no love for Pollard and would probably do anything to discredit him.

If the story wasn't true and Pollard knew it why didn't he take the interview with Hines and get his side of the story in the story? He turned Hines down not once but twice. He refused to answer written questions in leu of an interview. Why didn't Hoiberg return Hines' calls ahead of the article being published?

Yet after it was published they went nuts and basically called him a liar. Instead of just hearing what Pollard tells you to hear maybe you should look at the facts.
 
If the story wasn't true and Pollard knew it why didn't he take the interview with Hines and get his side of the story in the story? He turned Hines down not once but twice. He refused to answer written questions in leu of an interview. Why didn't Hoiberg return Hines' calls ahead of the article being published?

Yet after it was published they went nuts and basically called him a liar. Instead of just hearing what Pollard tells you to hear maybe you should look at the facts.

Pollard said he didn't comment because he knew the story was already written and Hoiberg told Hines off the record not to write the story. That was the information Pollard and Hoiberg relayed yesterday
 
Pollard said he didn't comment because he knew the story was already written and Hoiberg told Hines off the record not to write the story. That was the information Pollard and Hoiberg relayed yesterday

So you are saying Hines would go the trouble of interviewing both Hoiberg and Pollard and then use none of that in the story. Then all the editors at the paper would also overlook the interviews.

Of course when the story broke had Hoiberg and Pollard given comment and it didin't show up in a the story then there isn't any conclusion other than Hines and the Trib had an axe to grind. Which I am sure Pollard would have been all over and rightfully so.

Too bad for you and clone fans that isn't what took place.
 
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Pollard said he didn't comment because he knew the story was already written and Hoiberg told Hines off the record not to write the story. That was the information Pollard and Hoiberg relayed yesterday

Even if the story was written. I'm sure the writer would have edited it with pollards comments if he gave any. Being he was the main figure in the story. That is a pretty piss poor excuse by pollard for not commenting on it. Though sure die hard clone fans are buying that lame reason...
 
If the story wasn't true and Pollard knew it why didn't he take the interview with Hines and get his side of the story in the story? He turned Hines down not once but twice. He refused to answer written questions in leu of an interview. Why didn't Hoiberg return Hines' calls ahead of the article being published?

Yet after it was published they went nuts and basically called him a liar. Instead of just hearing what Pollard tells you to hear maybe you should look at the facts.
I can't answer that. I could come up with a number of reasons, but it would be pure speculation.
 
I can't answer that. I could come up with a number of reasons, but it would be pure speculation.

If Pollard and Hoiberg had commented on the story when given the opportunity much of the discussion wouldn't be taking place.
 
If Pollard and Hoiberg had commented on the story when given the opportunity much of the discussion wouldn't be taking place.
Just after I replied, I came across this explanation in Jamie's own words.
 
Just after I replied, I came across this explanation in Jamie's own words.
So when Hines says he met with Malchow on Monday morning at 10:30 seeking an interview with Pollard that is a lie? Why didn't Pollard talk about this meeting in your link? Hines went on to say when he was notified Jamie wouldn't do the interview he offered written questions that Pollard could answer and he again declined. Why didn't Pollard mention that in your link?

Hines' interview is a podcast on the KXNO site all you have to do is listen to it. The interview starts at about the 25 min mark or so.

http://www.kxno.com/media/podcast-the-sports-fanatics-TheSportsFanatics/930-hour-1-26393074/
 
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So when Hines says he met with Malchow on Monday morning at 10:30 seeking an interview with Pollard that is a lie? Why didn't Pollard talk about this meeting in your link? Hines went on to say when he was notified Jamie wouldn't do the interview he offered written questions that Pollard could answer and he again declined. Why didn't Pollard mention that in your link?

Hines' interview is a podcast on the KXNO site all you have to do is listen to it. The interview starts at about the 25 min mark or so.

http://www.kxno.com/media/podcast-the-sports-fanatics-TheSportsFanatics/930-hour-1-26393074/
Go listen to it again. Pollard did talk about the fact that Travis put in a request on Monday to talk to Jamie. And Jamie responded as to why he didn't take that interview. Jamie also covered this on hour 2 of the Sept 30 Murph & Andy podcast. The fact he didn't specifically mention the written question offer is immaterial because he already explained why he was not participating in the story.

I've have listened to Travis on two different KXnO podcasts (Murph & Andy and Sports Fanatics).
 
Go listen to it again. Pollard did talk about the fact that Travis put in a request on Monday to talk to Jamie. And Jamie responded as to why he didn't take that interview. Jamie also covered this on hour 2 of the Sept 30 Murph & Andy podcast. The fact he didn't specifically mention the written question offer is immaterial because he already explained why he was not participating in the story.

I've have listened to Travis on two different KXnO podcasts (Murph & Andy and Sports Fanatics).

In your link Pollard said Hines was seeking comment on Wednesday and he was going with a story and Pollard stated very clearly that he believed seeking comment on Wednesday meant the story was already written. If Wednesday was the first opportunity that Pollard was afforded an to provide comment you and Pollard would both have a point.

Sadly, by Pollards' own admission Wednesday wasn't the first opportunity he had to comment on the story.

In the end Pollard had plenty of opportunity to comment on the story and yet he chose not to on multiple occasions.
 
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