Did we really just go for two when down 9?
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What the F did I just see?
It was so the onside kick would be meaningless
Wouldn’t want to give anyone any hope.
It was so the onside kick would be meaningless
Wouldn’t want to give anyone any hope.
Kirk has never been faced with that scenario before...but every arm chair athlete knows it...
we had to make a 2. did not matter when. Stop bitching and moaning.
There is not a single NFL coach that agrees with you.
LuLz @ anyone surprised by terrible coaching from KF at the end of a half or game. I present to you almost 20 years of evidence.
Millen just called out Brian Ferentz
Typical Iowa offensive stupidity. You don't go for it then. If you fail, game over. You wait for the next TD (not that this offense and coaching staff would get another TD), so that there is motivation to try and get that next TD.
I respect Ferentz so much as a man, but I cannot wait for him to be gone. It is the end of the Fry era all over again. The nepotism doesn't help.
I respect Ferentz so much as a man, but I cannot wait for him to be gone. It is the end of the Fry era all over again. The nepotism doesn't help.
you dont go for 2 till you have to.
We were already in desperation mode and needed 2 either way. It didn't matter when we went for it.
And they call a fade route, with a 40 mph gust behind them, when but a few plays earlier ran 2 of them in a row and overthrew both badly.
It doesn't matter when there's only 1 possession left
Yes it does matter when dealing with young college kids.
Exactly, I had no problem with the call. If you need a 2 point conversion at somepoint, you go for it sooner than later. So you know what you need after that.
So go for it and only be down 7. Have even more momentum.
It would have been a long shot, but if Iowa had covered the onside kick and then scored a TD (there was about a minute left) and then converted a 2-point conversion the game would have gone to OT. Granted, the way Iowa was playing it was very unlikely, but you have to at least try.
You absolutely do NOT go for 2 there. My god people
Stop bitching and moaning and being logical.
I honestly can't believe that there are football fans here who don't understand why you don't go for it there. I guess watching Kirk for so long has led to more severe brain damage in Iowa than I ever imagined.
You just proved my point lol. You needed 2 no matter what. The probability of said 2 point conversion is the same no matter when you attempt it.
Okay, lol. You guys are doing an excellent job trolling, lololololol! Well done, man.
Are you a Scientologist?
No, I didn't prove your point. If you miss the 2-pt conversion there's no point in even trying an onside kick because the game is out of reach. That onside kick would have been meaningful if Iowa had just kicked an XP and been down only 8 instead of 9. Come on, quit trolling me, man. lol
I’m surprised he didn’t take a knee.
Right so you're saying a 2pt conversion attempt then vs a minute or so later against the same defense who just spent more time on their heels and has more pressure on them to stop it when it's to tie vs make a one possession game is the exact same scenario.
Gotcha.
Logic fail. You wanted to extend the game for the sake of extending the game. In reality, Hawks needed a 2 point conversion no matter what. It doesn't f'ing matter when they attempt the 2.
I'm not sure I would have gone for it there, but here is the argument for going for it.
You need 2 at somepoint nomatter what. So you go for it early in this case. Then if you get it you're down 7. If you don't get it, you're down 9 and you still theoretically (although highly unlikely) have time for two onsides kicks.
Contrast that with taking the extra point and being down 8. Then you get the onsides kick and use up all the clock on your next possession, not knowing if you will be able to convert the 2. So you will have no time for a second onsides kick.
Basically, going for 2 sooner tells you what you need to tie the game earlier and allows you adjust accordingly.
I give up. Believe whatever you want.
Didn't need it then. Learn the game.
