Do you know people who really rely on Soc Sec/Medicare/ or Medicaid? Are they family?

[uihawk82]

If you do about how many people? Do they really rely on those checks and medical coverage? Are they family?

My wife and I are retired; we get our Soc Sec checks; we are on Medicare Advantage med insurance plans: we have saved and have retirement money but we dont get into that money very much and live fine and do the things we want to.

But Soc Sec for instance is a very well run admin and agency. About 60,000 employees who get the checks etc to 71 million people each month. That is great work. And if Gramma Sue dies and her daughter continues to collect her check then the daughter is the scofflaw but not Soc Sec.

Same with Medicare, they have a very low adminstrative budget, about 3% compared to 30% for the high salaries at private insurance companies which is why that insurance is so expensive.

But if you friends and family dont get their checks and benefits, even though the money is theirs that they paid into the trust funds, tell us how you will feel? What will you do?

I am ready to march, protest, etc. We had tear gas cannisters shot at us in the late 60' and early 70's and we can do it again.

 

[SeaPA]

I was born & raised in an area that was much like many small towns that were largely agricultural. There was very much a concentration of wealth - those who owned the groves, farms, and citrus processing plants had a lot of it, those who worked in them did not. There isn't as much poverty around as there was when I was growing up, but there are still a lot of retirees who don't have much in the way of assets other than owning their home, and who don't have much income other than their SS; some have small pensions, but most don't. They'd struggle to make it through more than a couple of months without receiving their SS benefit every month. Hell, for that matter my oldest sister (whose husband died about 18 months ago) would quickly run out of money without her SS, it's the bulk of her monthly revenue stream and without it she'd burn through her liquid assets in a couple of years (though I'd certainly never let her end up destitute).

 

[Arbor1]

Run so well they couldnt run basic data checks to identify millions, obviously dead due to excessive age, in this supposed well run system.

 

[93hawkeye]

Everybody thinks their favorite Govt Agency is not the one to be examined for fraud and abuse.

 

[IACub]

As a loan officer, I see dozens of retired families and individuals every year that would not be able to carry a mortgage payment without Social Security, a benefit that they paid for their entire lives.

 

[goldmom]

I’m on SSI and Medicare but I also have other income sources which I earned.
I’m not “rich” but I can pay my bills and keep my lights on.
I know that some have a real struggle and it’s a serious shame.
I do not believe for a minute that benefits will be cut though. There are solutions and Congress just needs the will to make it happen.

 

[Scott559]

I retired last March, I saved money, Did well with my 401k, I became totally debt free several years before retirement and I also budgeted my SS and Medicare into my retirement plans. Losing SS and Medicare would definitely affect the quality of my retirement years.

 

[poophawk]

Most of the kids at the school I work at have Medicaid/snap. This will b a real shit storm if massive cuts come down. Say what u want about the parents but the kids need the food and health care

 

[goldmom]

Most of the kids at the school I work at have Medicaid/snap. This will b a real shit storm if massive cuts come down. Say what u want about the parents but the kids need the food and health care

Children should not be penalized for any money issues the parent(s) might have.

 

[Eburghawk]

yes i have elderly relatives who are in a nursing home & reliant on medicaid.


i would love to see that get gutted so govt. can fund tax breaks for billionaires 🙄

 

[DogBoyRy]

If you do about how many people? Do they really rely on those checks and medical coverage? Are they family?

My wife and I are retired; we get our Soc Sec checks; we are on Medicare Advantage med insurance plans: we have saved and have retirement money but we dont get into that money very much and live fine and do the things we want to.

But Soc Sec for instance is a very well run admin and agency. About 60,000 employees who get the checks etc to 71 million people each month. That is great work. And if Gramma Sue dies and her daughter continues to collect her check then the daughter is the scofflaw but not Soc Sec.

Same with Medicare, they have a very low adminstrative budget, about 3% compared to 30% for the high salaries at private insurance companies which is why that insurance is so expensive.

But if you friends and family dont get their checks and benefits, even though the money is theirs that they paid into the trust funds, tell us how you will feel? What will you do?

I am ready to march, protest, etc. We had tear gas cannisters shot at us in the late 60' and early 70's and we can do it again.

Wow.
You are off the rails

 

[joelbc1]

The sad fact is in my lifetime, there was a reason…a real need for MediCare and MedicAid… old and indigents were literally being thrown out if their homes and into the streets or homes if their siblings to finish out their final days. This was a common occurrence post-WW2 and until the 60’s..It can become a problem for America once again…and if allowed to expire or “sun set” it will again.

 

[5545]

If you do about how many people? Do they really rely on those checks and medical coverage? Are they family?

My wife and I are retired; we get our Soc Sec checks; we are on Medicare Advantage med insurance plans: we have saved and have retirement money but we dont get into that money very much and live fine and do the things we want to.

But Soc Sec for instance is a very well run admin and agency. About 60,000 employees who get the checks etc to 71 million people each month. That is great work. And if Gramma Sue dies and her daughter continues to collect her check then the daughter is the scofflaw but not Soc Sec.

Same with Medicare, they have a very low adminstrative budget, about 3% compared to 30% for the high salaries at private insurance companies which is why that insurance is so expensive.

But if you friends and family dont get their checks and benefits, even though the money is theirs that they paid into the trust funds, tell us how you will feel? What will you do?

I am ready to march, protest, etc. We had tear gas cannisters shot at us in the late 60' and early 70's and we can do it again.

Is anyone proposing that payments get cut off to existing recipients?

 

[uihawk82]

Run so well they couldnt run basic data checks to identify millions, obviously dead due to excessive age, in this supposed well run system.

I guess you did not hear that Elon was pointed fact checked about this stupid thing he said in his oval office meeting with Trump. Elon and his little boys were not smart enough to learn ahead of time or realise that SS puts in birthdates like 1875 and the number 150 in the age field as codes that these people are not getting benefits.

Elon's respones to this if you didnt see him, he said "well I am going to make mistakes" The guy is a spectrum retard and you are groveling at his feet.

Where does most SS and Medicare fraud come from? it is people outside of those agencies committing fraud. I said 40 years ago it would be so easy to stop those durable medical equipment scammers from doing business by making them post a million dollar bond for a year before they could do business with Medicare. How many crooks would do that? not many

 

[uihawk82]

I’m on SSI and Medicare but I also have other income sources which I earned.
I’m not “rich” but I can pay my bills and keep my lights on.
I know that some have a real struggle and it’s a serious shame.
I do not believe for a minute that benefits will be cut though. There are solutions and Congress just needs the will to make it happen.

Ok, I will try to remember your HB username goldmom. Remember just 2 years ago Repub Sen. Rick Scott had a working memo to the Senate REpub RE-election group leak out and one of his points was to eliminate SS. so we shall see

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-us-senator-rick-scott-drops-plan-cut-social-security-medicare-2023-02-17/

 

[joelbc1]

Is anyone proposing that payments get cut off to existing recipients?

It’s coming.. promise. It’s coming…. This is a Republican “wet dream come true” ever since Social Security's inception in the 1930’s. Republicans hate government programs that work .

 

[thewop]

My wife's family has a long history of poor planning, so yeah...

 

[uihawk82]

Wow.
You are off the rails

How so? please explain

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

If you do about how many people? Do they really rely on those checks and medical coverage? Are they family?

My wife and I are retired; we get our Soc Sec checks; we are on Medicare Advantage med insurance plans: we have saved and have retirement money but we dont get into that money very much and live fine and do the things we want to.

But Soc Sec for instance is a very well run admin and agency. About 60,000 employees who get the checks etc to 71 million people each month. That is great work. And if Gramma Sue dies and her daughter continues to collect her check then the daughter is the scofflaw but not Soc Sec.

Same with Medicare, they have a very low adminstrative budget, about 3% compared to 30% for the high salaries at private insurance companies which is why that insurance is so expensive.

But if you friends and family dont get their checks and benefits, even though the money is theirs that they paid into the trust funds, tell us how you will feel? What will you do?

I am ready to march, protest, etc. We had tear gas cannisters shot at us in the late 60' and early 70's and we can do it again.

You don’t need a single human being to “get the checks out!” 🤡😂💰

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Run so well they couldnt run basic data checks to identify millions, obviously dead due to excessive age, in this supposed well run system.

Or ILLEGALS receiving benefits!

 

[uihawk82]

It’s coming.. promise. It’s coming…. This is a Republican “wet dream come true” ever since Social Security's inception in the 1930’s. Republicans hate government programs that work .

REpubs not only hate programs that work but especially programs that help poor people because the transfer money to the poor, who the Repubs have been sticking it to for decades by holding down Fed minimum wage and giving the big tax cuts to the wealthy with their totally debunked Supply Side Economics

 

[DogBoyRy]

How so? please explain

People won’t be getting their soc sec checks?
Sure.
Maroon.

 

[uihawk82]

You don’t need a single human being to “get the checks out!” 🤡😂💰

Tell me how that would be done? Please we all want to hear your plan

 

[Hawk_82]

If you do about how many people? Do they really rely on those checks and medical coverage? Are they family?

My wife and I are retired; we get our Soc Sec checks; we are on Medicare Advantage med insurance plans: we have saved and have retirement money but we dont get into that money very much and live fine and do the things we want to.

But Soc Sec for instance is a very well run admin and agency. About 60,000 employees who get the checks etc to 71 million people each month. That is great work. And if Gramma Sue dies and her daughter continues to collect her check then the daughter is the scofflaw but not Soc Sec.

Same with Medicare, they have a very low adminstrative budget, about 3% compared to 30% for the high salaries at private insurance companies which is why that insurance is so expensive.

But if you friends and family dont get their checks and benefits, even though the money is theirs that they paid into the trust funds, tell us how you will feel? What will you do?

I am ready to march, protest, etc. We had tear gas cannisters shot at us in the late 60' and early 70's and we can do it again.

Who is getting their checks stopped? You are going crazy over an idea that hasn't even happened. It's time to let go of some of that worry, because you are wound pretty tight.

 

[uihawk82]

People won’t be getting their soc sec checks?
Sure.
Maroon.

Do you like the color Maroon, or were you trying to insult me by calling me a "Moron". Check the spelling

And by the way, I hope the SS checks and Medicare keeps coming and I would raise the ceiling on paying into SS to about 1/2 a million dollars or more to fund it non-stop. We dont need nor should have old people living poor nor dying poor.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Tell me how that would be done? Please we all want to hear your plan

So you believe humans are stuffing envelopes and licking stamps? 🤡😂🦄

 

[DogBoyRy]

Do you like the color Maroon, or were you trying to insult me by calling me a "Moron". Check the spelling

And by the way, I hope the SS checks and Medicare keeps coming and I would raise the ceiling on paying into SS to about 1/2 a million dollars or more to fund it non-stop. We dont need nor should have old people living poor nor dying poor.

Its from bugs bunny maroon.
God you’re an idiit.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Do you like the color Maroon, or were you trying to insult me by calling me a "Moron". Check the spelling

And by the way, I hope the SS checks and Medicare keeps coming and I would raise the ceiling on paying into SS to about 1/2 a million dollars or more to fund it non-stop. We dont need nor should have old people living poor nor dying poor.

You’re retarded….

 

[DogBoyRy]

Ok, I will try to remember your HB username goldmom. Remember just 2 years ago Repub Sen. Rick Scott had a working memo to the Senate REpub RE-election group leak out and one of his points was to eliminate SS. so we shall see

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-us-senator-rick-scott-drops-plan-cut-social-security-medicare-2023-02-17/

I suggest you really read the article.

 

[JMNSHO]

Over a third of the kids in Iowa are on Medicaid/CHIP. If that somehow goes away I think it would be time for HC providers to start billing those kids as Jane/John Doe--lest those providers become culpable in our increasingly immoral HC system scam.

 

[Hawk_82]

It’s coming.. promise. It’s coming…. This is a Republican “wet dream come true” ever since Social Security's inception in the 1930’s. Republicans hate government programs that work .

I am a republican. I want social security. I want medicaid for people in need. You guys are trying to make enemies that aren't there. If Trump messes up and did eliminate these things (I don't think this will happen) then I will join you in your protest to bring them back.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

I am a republican. I want social security. I want medicaid for people in need. You guys are trying to make enemies that aren't there. If Trump messes up and did eliminate these things (I don't think this will happen) then I will join you in your protest to bring them back.

Liberalism is a mental illness! That fact is very clearly demonstrated on this “site.”

 

[SolarHawk]

My parent’s can survive without SS payments, and that’s the only people who receive that I give 2 shits about. Neither voted for dumbfvck either. I hope these old fvcking morons that voted for that piece of shit lose their security blanket. Same for anyone who voted for him that relies on gov’t assistance. Fvck em all. I am so fvcking disgusted with where we are I hope it all burns.

 

[HawkNester]

Richest 1% bag nearly twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together over the past two years | Oxfam International

www.oxfam.org

Social programs are not the problem. The above article is. The oligarchs want us fighting amongst ourselves for scraps. That’s not debatable.

 

[Kelsers]

I’m on SSI and Medicare but I also have other income sources which I earned.
I’m not “rich” but I can pay my bills and keep my lights on.
I know that some have a real struggle and it’s a serious shame.
I do not believe for a minute that benefits will be cut though. There are solutions and Congress just needs the will to make it happen.

Solutions for what problems?

 

[5545]

My parent’s can survive without SS payments, and that’s the only people who receive that I give 2 shits about. Neither voted for dumbfvck either. I hope these old fvcking morons that voted for that piece of shit lose their security blanket. Same for anyone who voted for him that relies on gov’t assistance. Fvck em all. I am so fvcking disgusted with where we are I hope it all burns.

You have an awful lot of hatred for a large group of people that you claim not to give "2 shits about." I hope you can get rid of that hatred.

 

[SolarHawk]

You have an awful lot of hatred for a large group of people that you claim not to give "2 shits about." I hope you can get rid of that hatred.

I would have to care to hate. I did not use the word hate once. Also, GFY

 

[5545]

I would have to care to hate. I did not use the word hate once. Also, GFY

You hope they lose their security blanket, but you don't care. Got it.

I still hope your mental health improves.

 

[SolarHawk]

You hope they lose their security blanket, but you don't care. Got it.

I still hope your mental health improves.

I hope this alt lasts you a while, you’ve burned through so many

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

I do not believe for a minute that benefits will be cut though. There are solutions and Congress just needs the will to make it happen.

Goldmom I have done the math on here multiple times. There are only two long term solutions: either we have to cut benefits or we have to raise taxes. There is no other path. There is not enough money in the rest of the entire federal budget to balance the budget, including military spending.

The math is VERY clear. So the entitlement items are at risk unless y’all want to raise taxes somehow. This is why I keep saying we have to look at the estate tax. For 99.9% of people that will be the least impactful way to raise revenue.