I've listened to a lot of people try to explain what Trump is actually guilty of, but I get a lot of different answers. So lets find out who's right on here. Without looking it up or looking at other posts in this thread, explain what Trump was found guilty of.
Do you know what Trump was found guilty of?
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My understanding is falsification of business records which is illegal under NY state law.
Edit: I admit to reading up a bit more on the exact charges a couple days ago.
Edit: I admit to reading up a bit more on the exact charges a couple days ago.
Being pedo Joes primary opponent is the crime…so he must be convicted.
He falsified financial records...
Well...HE didn't but someone else did and he didn't stop them.
Well...they didn't falsify records, but he didn't want people to know he f$#ked a porn star and then paid her to be quiet about it...
Well...he didn't pay her but his lawyer did, and he paid the lawyer.
So he's guilty of falsifying financial records...so suck it maga scum!
Well...HE didn't but someone else did and he didn't stop them.
Well...they didn't falsify records, but he didn't want people to know he f$#ked a porn star and then paid her to be quiet about it...
Well...he didn't pay her but his lawyer did, and he paid the lawyer.
So he's guilty of falsifying financial records...so suck it maga scum!
Judge to the soon to be felon: do you understand the charges.
The soon to be felon: yes
The soon to be felon: yes
You sound like you’ve got all the details of a seven week trial in front of you and not at all influenced by your political leanings. Which juror were you? #3? #8? #69?
12 randomly selected jurors had no trouble. The evidence was presented, the law was instructed, and they reached a unanimous conclusion.
This case has been publicly discussed and dissected ad nauseum for more than a year; it has been hyper-analyzed for the last month and a half.
At this point, anyone claiming to be confused by the charges or the convictions is willfully ignorant or a stooge for propaganda.
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34. Count indictment lays it out clearly, Signed jury ballot also shows each charge they voted on. This isn’t hard unless you want to cloud it in bullshit.
Baby steps of the OP. It's nice that he's admitting Trump was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
This is how you identify folks who have gone down the rightwing media shithole
Incapable of critical thinking
Incapable of independent thought
Incapable of realizing they've been fleeced.
Carl Sagan told us, years ago
Maga scum must protect leader, no matter how stupid and corrupt it makes them look.
A blog post by a law professor with some additional commentary for people like you:
Trump is blasting the jury’s verdict as the product of a “rigged” trial and a “corrupt” judge, which is par for the course with him.
The reason Trump was convicted of 34 felonies after a very short jury deliberation is because the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty of exactly what the state of New York charged him with doing, which was to buy the silence of a porn star with who he had a few minutes of semi-consensual sex, via a fraud through his lawyer, intended to cover up the transaction for the purposes of violating federal election laws, in order to get elected president.
Which is an incredibly serious political crime when you think about it, which of course is something no one who wants to remain a Republican can do.
What Donald Trump requires of his supporters, and most especially of his supporters in the Republican political establishment, is that they live a lie. That lie is to claim that Trump is something other than what he so obviously is, which is the most corrupt and most unworthy of office major politician in the history of this country.
If conservatives were to face up to what Trump is, and to what his takeover of the Republican party signifies, they would have to also face up to the fact that their entire ideology — indeed their very sense of self — is nothing but a gigantic lie. Naturally they aren’t going to do that until circumstances force them to do so.
So until then, they will go on lying to themselves about what they, their party, and their country, has become.
Living a lie - Lawyers, Guns & Money
Trump is blasting the jury’s verdict as the product of a “rigged” trial and a “corrupt” judge, which is par for the course with him. The reason Trump was convicted of 34 felonies after a very short jury deliberation is because the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty of exactly what the...
www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com
Is part of the answer this?
Trump was part of the same scheme that his own justice department put MIchael Cohen in jail for and flagged Trump as unindicted co-conspirator 1????
Trump was part of the same scheme that his own justice department put MIchael Cohen in jail for and flagged Trump as unindicted co-conspirator 1????
Man...that's awesome!A blog post by a law professor with some additional commentary for people like you:
Trump is blasting the jury’s verdict as the product of a “rigged” trial and a “corrupt” judge, which is par for the course with him.
The reason Trump was convicted of 34 felonies after a very short jury deliberation is because the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty of exactly what the state of New York charged him with doing, which was to buy the silence of a porn star with who he had a few minutes of semi-consensual sex, via a fraud through his lawyer, intended to cover up the transaction for the purposes of violating federal election laws, in order to get elected president.
Which is an incredibly serious political crime when you think about it, which of course is something no one who wants to remain a Republican can do.
What Donald Trump requires of his supporters, and most especially of his supporters in the Republican political establishment, is that they live a lie. That lie is to claim that Trump is something other than what he so obviously is, which is the most corrupt and most unworthy of office major politician in the history of this country.
If conservatives were to face up to what Trump is, and to what his takeover of the Republican party signifies, they would have to also face up to the fact that their entire ideology — indeed their very sense of self — is nothing but a gigantic lie. Naturally they aren’t going to do that until circumstances force them to do so.
So until then, they will go on lying to themselves about what they, their party, and their country, has become.
Living a lie - Lawyers, Guns & Money
Trump is blasting the jury’s verdict as the product of a “rigged” trial and a “corrupt” judge, which is par for the course with him. The reason Trump was convicted of 34 felonies after a very short jury deliberation is because the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty of exactly what the...www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com
Needs to be pointed out that Trump was also an unindicted co-conspirator in the Michael Cohen case. Southern District of NY didn't have the stones to prosecute Trump as well.
Donnie's such a victim of the deep state.
Donnie's such a victim of the deep state.
Is part of the answer this?
Trump was part of the same scheme that his own justice department put MIchael Cohen in jail for and flagged Trump as unindicted co-conspirator 1????
That was Biden's DOJ, bro.
He's a senile old man who cannot remember his own name, but he was also running a secret WH after Trump was elected and hijacking the DOJ like a criminal mastermind....
Is part of the answer this?
Trump was part of the same scheme that his own justice department put MIchael Cohen in jail for and flagged Trump as unindicted co-conspirator 1????
Dark Brandon played the long game. Trick Trump into going after Cohen knowing he'd flip on him 6 years later.
I still wonder if that chili was good minus the parent's fingers
I disagree with Franken’s assertion that Trump would have lost the 2016 election if he hadn’t paid off Stormy. His supporters simply don’t care.
We’ve known for 6 years now that he paid her not to talk about their dalliance and the most ironic aspect of this whole saga is that he really didn’t even need to.
Infidelity normally hurts a candidate. But Trump’s supporters strangely consider it a badge of honor. If Trump had never given her a dime and she had gone public prior to the election, most of his supporters would have either said she was lying or would have considered Trump a hero because “Fvck yeah, he banged a porn star!”
We will never know for sure, But we do know that a 34 count felony conviction shows Trump was pretty damned concerned it would cost him the election.
So...what I'm seeing from this is that Mr. Trump is a victim and has been treated so unfairly!
I get that right, you fvcking MAGA scum?
I get that right, you fvcking MAGA scum?
OP, I recommend you start reading up now, because you're going to really struggle with the next three criminal trials which are significantly worse than this one. Let's just say they got the kids glove one out of the way first.
I think you may be underestimating the effect the bombshell Strormy Daniels story would have had on a slice of Independents and perhaps a small fraction of Republicans in October, 2016.
I agree his core support would have been unfazed. Could it have changed the outcome - who knows? However, the trial revealed evidence that the Trump Campaign was plenty worried about it.
This is the MAGA playbook at the current moment. To somehow challenge people on what the charges were to prove some point. As always with MAGA, what point that might be is completely nebulous.
Imagine the party Stormy Daniel and Michael Cohen had tonite???
Then picture how much fun it would be to be in the room with Turd tonite?
Damn, am I enjoying this too much?
Then picture how much fun it would be to be in the room with Turd tonite?
Damn, am I enjoying this too much?
Cliff’s notes version: being stupid, sloppy, and greedy.
True, his campaign was worried enough about it at the time that he paid her to keep quiet. Because, again, conventional wisdom states that infidelity usually hurts a candidate.
But my point is that in hindsight it appears that it might not have hurt him. That’s the irony, Even after we found out that he not only had sex with her but also paid her to keep quiet, he got 11 million more votes in the next election.
It’s hard to say. That’s certainly the case now but might not have been true when the cult of personality was just growing.
What comfort food does he turn to when his idea of real food is McDonald’s? Maybe he invites everyone over for ice cream and he gets a whole gallon while everyone else gets one scoop for their failure.
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