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DOD Stand down order?

What is this 1980's why is everyone so afraid of russia?

Why is the thought of peace with another super power so scary to you guys?
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Russia is not a super power anymore. The US is the only real super power in the world right now.
Trump is working on that. Give him a year. We have only so much of a tech edge over the Chinese left, and Trump is pissing that away. He also gave China the green light today to take not just Taiwan, but whatever they want in the South China Sea basin.
 
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From the article:

The order does not apply to the National Security Agency, which Haugh also leads, or its signals intelligence work targeting Russia, the sources said.
While the full scope of Hegseth’s directive to the command remains unclear, it is more evidence of the White House’s efforts to normalize ties with Moscow after the U.S. and international allies worked to isolate the Kremlin over its 2022 invasion of Ukraine.


I remember distinctly under Obama (2011) the DOD decided:

US Pentagon to treat cyber-attacks as 'acts of war'​

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13614125

OP's tweet says, "including offensive digital actions"

So my question is, if Biden was authorizing 'offensive digital actions' against Russia, was he waging war on Russia without authorization from Congress?
Should we go ahead and get that authorization and resume 'offensive digital actions' against Russia?
Or is that Obama guidance gone, and we just sort of 'Wild West' whatever countries we want in cyberspace, at the direction of the President, without Congressional authorization?
 
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the US has given Russia the nuclear codes. Russia probably promised him all the vodka he wants.

The US are not the good guys anymore
Putin probably promised Trump to send a couple of Russian hookers over to pee on him.
 
Trump is working on that. Give him a year. We have only so much of a tech edge over the Chinese left, and Trump is pissing that away. He also gave China the green light today to take not just Taiwan, but whatever they want in the South China Sea basin.
china only gets taiwan. russia a sliver of ukraine. we get canada and greenland with panama canal and gaza on the side. it’s quite obvious who has the best deal.
 
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Russian backed hackers cause tens of billions of dollars in damage to US businesses every year.

Their military uses cyber warfare against our NATO allies and they’ve made a constant effort at cyber espionage.
Additionally, Putin imprisons or kills anyone who opposes/stands up to him. Russia is a corrupt, shit hole of a country that cannot be trusted.
 
From the article:

The order does not apply to the National Security Agency, which Haugh also leads, or its signals intelligence work targeting Russia, the sources said.
While the full scope of Hegseth’s directive to the command remains unclear, it is more evidence of the White House’s efforts to normalize ties with Moscow after the U.S. and international allies worked to isolate the Kremlin over its 2022 invasion of Ukraine.


I remember distinctly under Obama (2011) the DOD decided:

US Pentagon to treat cyber-attacks as 'acts of war'​

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13614125

OP's tweet says, "including offensive digital actions"

So my question is, if Biden was authorizing 'offensive digital actions' against Russia, was he waging war on Russia without authorization from Congress?
Should we go ahead and get that authorization and resume 'offensive digital actions' against Russia?
Or is that Obama guidance gone, and we just sort of 'Wild West' whatever countries we want in cyberspace, at the direction of the President, without Congressional authorization?
Remember ghee’s thread about classification? There are acknowledged SAPs and unacknowledged (by Congress) SAPs… so yeah, there’s always been a gray area. Cyber policy has never been as black and white as people think. The 2011 doctrine you mentioned somewhat set a precedent, but how it’s applied across administrations varies (makes you wonder how much goes on w/o WH or presidential knowledge). As for whether we were ‘waging war’ without authorization, that’s been an ongoing debate between Congress and DoD. Let’s just say I’ve been part of many Title 10 ops, and the legal framework around offensive cyber actions isn’t exactly cut and dry.

As for the ‘order doesn’t apply to NSA’...that’s because NSA operates under Title 50. But don’t confuse intelligence collection (passive) with cyber effects operations (active).
 
Remember ghee’s thread about classification? There are acknowledged SAPs and unacknowledged (by Congress) SAPs… so yeah, there’s always been a gray area. Cyber policy has never been as black and white as people think. The 2011 doctrine you mentioned somewhat set a precedent, but how it’s applied across administrations varies (makes you wonder how much goes on w/o WH or presidential knowledge). As for whether we were ‘waging war’ without authorization, that’s been an ongoing debate between Congress and DoD. Let’s just say I’ve been part of many Title 10 ops, and the legal framework around offensive cyber actions isn’t exactly cut and dry.

As for the ‘order doesn’t apply to NSA’...that’s because NSA operates under Title 50. But don’t confuse intelligence collection (passive) with cyber effects operations (active).
Were you like that Chloe chick in 24?

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