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Does K Ferentz travel to see recruits?

This time of year is when they seem to come up the most, coming down to signing day (usually) and with new offers going out. During the season you see the assistants out visiting but probably pretty rare for him to get out then. Maybe locally he does, that I don't know.
 
I'm pretty sure there are very specific rules around when and how many times (per recruit) any HC can have in home visits. This is not just a Coach Ferentz thing. I am almost certain there are times when they CANNOT visit in person even beyond standard "dead" periods. That would be why you don't see pictures of him hanging at recruits houses year round.

I don't know the specifics, but I am sure someone else on here can give specifics if anyone cares.
 
Meanwhile, Frost signs anothe 4*. Johns, safety outa TX. Nubs with #18 class...WTF

And KF and company...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For the millionth time....you don't lose to the guys you didn't get, you win because of what you do with the guys you get. Iowa does this better than most of college football. Those who live and die by star ratings really need to educate themselves about it. Websites are making millions off of gullible "fans"
 
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Where did I say stars were the only thing that mattered, I simply said they matter. Go check out every NC team over the last 5+ years, then take a look at each of those teams previous five-years recruiting classes. I believe you’ll see an obvious trend. The recruit rankings aren’t perfect, but it is absolutely undeniable that there is a correlation between landing consistently high recruiting classes and winning championships. That point can’t be argued with any intellectual honesty.

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I also said "part of the equation"! The way it was put to me is a 5* player is in most cases ready to play and the collage level from day one. The father down the scale the longer it will take said player to become whether physically or mentally prepared to play at that level. The advantage of 5* players is if he's able to see the field early and get substantial playing time he has an advantage over guys that like at Iowa may not see the field until there juniors or seniors. Most schools (like Iowa) would have to consider themselves a developmental programs ....with enough 4* and 5* guys this is not the case ....here again lies a huge advantage ...again stars are only part of the equation!
 
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I'm pretty sure there are very specific rules around when and how many times (per recruit) any HC can have in home visits. This is not just a Coach Ferentz thing. I am almost certain there are times when they CANNOT visit in person even beyond standard "dead" periods. That would be why you don't see pictures of him hanging at recruits houses year round.

I don't know the specifics, but I am sure someone else on here can give specifics if anyone cares.

Head coaches get one in home visit and they save it to use at the end of the season to either close a deal or get a recruit to campus for a visit then try and close the deal once the recruit is on campus.
 
I prefer to see how many end up in the NFL rather than recruiting rankings.
If you use NFL players, then Iowa under achieves on the field. Think about the NFL players on this past years team. To go along with a TE that set the school record for TD receptions and a QB who almost set the school record for TD passes in a season. Iowa went 8-5. Pretty underwhelming.
 
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If you use NFL players, then Iowa under achieves on the field. Think about the NFL players on this past years team. To go along with a TE that set the school record for TD receptions and a QB who almost set the school record for TD passes in a season. Iowa went 8-5. Pretty underwhelming.

I mean, Iowa played one of the 5 toughest schedules in the country. I still want more than 8 wins, but you gotta take into account the difficulty of the schedule.
 
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If you use NFL players, then Iowa under achieves on the field. Think about the NFL players on this past years team. To go along with a TE that set the school record for TD receptions and a QB who almost set the school record for TD passes in a season. Iowa went 8-5. Pretty underwhelming.
You have to look at what positions they are putting into the NFL. Do you see many skilled position players from Iowa in the NFL?
 
The stars don't matter crowd is tiresome. Iowa has had great exceptions to the rule, but continually throwing those out as evidence that stars don't matter is complete foolishness. Maybe we have two exceptions every year, the problem is there are 20 other positions on the field. This is where stars matter as it becomes a numbers game. And don't give me the we beat ohio state rebutal.
 
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The stars don't matter crowd is tiresome. Iowa has had great exceptions to the rule, but continually throwing those out as evidence that stars don't matter is complete foolishness. Maybe we have two exceptions every year, the problem is there are 20 other positions on the field. This is where stars matter as it becomes a numbers game. And don't give me the we beat ohio state rebutal.

I agree.

They only say “stars don’t matter” because, historically speaking, they usually only recruit well enough to bring in a class ranked somewhere between 40th and 50th in the country. Makes you feel better to say the recruiting rankings don’t matter, but those results usually generate a 6-8 win season.

Compare the final yearly AP Top 10, to those team’s previous recruiting rankings, and you’ll see a direct correlation (obviously).
 
The stars don't matter crowd is tiresome. Iowa has had great exceptions to the rule, but continually throwing those out as evidence that stars don't matter is complete foolishness. Maybe we have two exceptions every year, the problem is there are 20 other positions on the field. This is where stars matter as it becomes a numbers game. And don't give me the we beat ohio state rebutal.
Let me help you with this....went through it a few years back and it is not even close to a science that the "sites" want you to believe. They want your money so you can feel good about yourself. This year according to Rivals:

33 players are rated 5-star --- my dead grandmother could pick these guys out of the lot

399 players are rated 4 star --- do the math genius, not a whole lot to go around, but Iowa does get some

1409 players are rated 3 star --- if you can run and somewhat play the camp game you are in. You look really good in tshirts and shorts

1842 players are rated 4 star --- went to a few camps...good to excellent high school athlete but does grade out in the shorts and tshirt Olympics

296,317 players are unrated --- kids parents paid the money to get them a little exposure. Some can really play but choose to play AAU basketball, baseball or have no money to travel to these pay for play camps.

It is not the players you do not get that beat you...it is the players that you get that do not develop like you think that beat you. Iowa develops players at a pretty high rate. That is the echelon they are in ---always have been and always will be. The random 5 or 4 star player that commits obviously is something that makes you happy and you are not happy very much.
 
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Let me help you with this....went through it a few years back and it is not even close to a science that the "sites" want you to believe. They want your money so you can feel good about yourself. This year according to Rivals:

33 players are rated 5-star --- my dead grandmother could pick these guys out of the lot

399 players are rated 4 star --- do the math genius, not a whole lot to go around, but Iowa does get some

1409 players are rated 3 star --- if you can run and somewhat play the camp game you are in. You look really good in tshirts and shorts

1842 players are rated 4 star --- went to a few camps...good to excellent high school athlete but does grade out in the shorts and tshirt Olympics

296,317 players are unrated --- kids parents paid the money to get them a little exposure. Some can really play but choose to play AAU basketball, baseball or have no money to travel to these pay for play camps.

It is not the players you do not get that beat you...it is the players that you get that do not develop like you think that beat you. Iowa develops players at a pretty high rate. That is the echelon they are in ---always have been and always will be. The random 5 or 4 star player that commits obviously is something that makes you happy and you are not happy very much.
Go run a simple correlation between avg star ranking and average number of wins for all teams in D1 college football over the past 20 years and tell me what you get. I'll hang up and listen.
 
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It is impossible to compare program to program with success each year when it comes to stars. 3 year players are more prevalent at the Blue Blood programs ...which Iowa is not and never will be. If you look at last year....Iowa ranked #47 in recruiting according to 247. They had a better record than 28 teams ranked ahead of them. That is the only way you can compare...that incoming class to that years record. A million other factors weigh into a teams success other that stars on a high school website. Again my dead grandmother can pick out the 50 or so 5-star kids...not hard.
 
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