Doyle could make more than $600,000 this year!

[20"Terminator]

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the money, but holy cow; I never knew strength and conditioning coaches could make such a haul.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-coaches-carry-plenty-weight-college-football

 

[Scherrman]

Good for him. Man works his butt off.

 

[Capital1Hawk]

Good for him. Man works his butt off.

Money well spent. Get what you pay for and as trump would say he is doing a fabulous job, fantastic.

 

[ExiraHawk]

Pound for Pound, worth every cent.

 

[hoffmkr]

Pound for Pound, worth every cent.

Doyle does a great job turning 2 & 3 stars into NFL players.

 

[ichawk24]

Alabama S&C coach to have his base salary pushed past $600k:

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-coach-scott-cochran-nick-saban-secret-weapon

 

[td77]

This is a big entertainment business. What do you expect him to make?

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Plus you always see him on the sidelines during the games talking up the players and interacting with the coaches. I wonder if he doesn't have plenty of football knowledge in his own right to bring to game days.

 

[20"Terminator]

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

This is a big entertainment business. What do you expect him to make?

I would honestly expect more like $ 200,000 because I just don't see the demand that would drive the price so high. Sure, there are a few strength guys who probably get poached from other teams but it seems like this is a position that the head coach would fill with "his own guy." i.e. most teams hire from within and there isn't as big of risk of the strengthening coach getting poached like a Defensive or Offensive Coordinator for instance. Both Davis and Parker make a base salary of $515,000, the same as Doyle.

 

[MepoDawg#]

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant


I would honestly expect more like $ 200,000 because I just don't see the demand that would drive the price so high. Sure, there are a few strength guys who probably get poached from other teams but it seems like this is a position that the head coach would fill with "his own guy." i.e. most teams hire from within and there isn't as big of risk of the strengthening coach getting poached like a Defensive or Offensive Coordinator for instance. Both Davis and Parker make a base salary of $515,000, the same as Doyle.

And he's just as important as Davis and Parker.

 

[20"Terminator]

Great argument. I totally agree with you now . Just because he's "just as important " doesn't mean he's just as valuable from a monetary sense. There's much less direct correlation between his actions in the weight room and success on the field for anyone outside the program looking in. when an OC or DC game plan well and have success on the field, it's easy for outsiders to appreciate and value that. Much more difficult to do for a strength and conditioning coach. People usually don't pay as much for something they have difficulty evaluating the product they're buying... There's no way the market for strength coaches is as robust as coordinators, therefore it shouldn't cost as much to retain them, in broad terms.

 

[ichawk24]

Completely disagree. Doyle spends more hours with the players than the coaches do. He is the biggest motivator in the program. He has a larger impact on the team than any assistant.

The team spent the summer setting a ton of team training records, and just happened to follow it up with 12-0.

 

[MepoDawg#]

So he's not worth it because outsiders don't appreciate what he does and means to the team? Good argument and glad I don't work for you. It doesn't really matter what outsiders think, just what your organization thinks of you when it comes to compensation.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

I think his profession has passed him by. He thinks he knows everything and is unwilling to change his approach. Wait, that was Kirk Ferentz.

 

[20"Terminator]

Unless you're unemployed, work for your father in law, or work for yourself, you get paid what your boss thinks you're worth and you're delusional if you think they pay you more than your market value because they like you. They pay you what they think is fair for your skills, assuming you have some. If they pay you more than the average person in your field, then they are doing that to decrease the risk of losing you to a competitor. It's that simple. It works the same in coaching. I'm just saying the risk of losing a coordinator to another program is much higher than losing a strength coach, therefore I would expect coordinator salaries to reflect that and be a bit more inflated. If you'd rather just harass me and tell me You wouldn't want to work for me that's fine, I guess. I still haven't heard an actual argument supporting his salary.

 

[hawkcub]

If Iowa doesn't win at least 10 games next year Doyle should be fired.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Unless you're unemployed, work for your father in law, or work for yourself, you get paid what your boss thinks you're worth and you're delusional if you think they pay you more than your market value because they like you. They pay you what they think is fair for your skills, assuming you have some. If they pay you more than the average person in your field, then they are doing that to decrease the risk of losing you to a competitor. It's that simple. It works the same in coaching. I'm just saying the risk of losing a coordinator to another program is much higher than losing a strength coach, therefore I would expect coordinator salaries to reflect that and be a bit more inflated. If you'd rather just harass me and tell me You wouldn't want to work for me that's fine, I guess. I still haven't heard an actual argument supporting his salary.

I don't need to provide any actual arguments. His work speaks for itself. Developing walk-ons, 2*, and 3* recruits into NFL players.

 

[hbthawks]

Who really cares what he makes, as long as its not coming outta my pocket, good for him

 

[And1Hawk]

Who really cares what he makes, as long as its not coming outta my pocket, good for him

I know what's the point of this thread? We just won a school record 12 straight to finish the regular season. It's never been done before at the U of IA. We were 30 seconds and a play away from the playoffs. Strength and Conditioning play a huge role in player development.

Newsflash, there are going to be some financial rewards paid for such a season.

 

[trippnschmidt]

I know what's the point of this thread? We just won a school record 12 straight to finish the regular season. It's never been done before at the U of IA. We were 30 seconds and a play away from the playoffs. Strength and Conditioning play a huge role in player development.

Newsflash, there are going to be some financial rewards paid for such a season.

I'd say the point of the thread was that the OP didn't realize strength and conditioning coaches made that much money. I didn't realize it either. Worth every penny in my mind.

 

[And1Hawk]

I'd say the point of the thread was that the OP didn't realize strength and conditioning coaches made that much money. I didn't realize it either. Worth every penny in my mind.

Fair point but the OP needs to realize that there are programs who pay as much if not more for S & C as well as OC's, DC's and all other assistants. I could be wrong but I thought we were aground the middle of the pack in the B1G for assistants pay? If you want to run with the big dogs, be prepared to pony up across your entire program.

 

[laidbackdude2011]

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant


I would honestly expect more like $ 200,000 because I just don't see the demand that would drive the price so high. Sure, there are a few strength guys who probably get poached from other teams but it seems like this is a position that the head coach would fill with "his own guy." i.e. most teams hire from within and there isn't as big of risk of the strengthening coach getting poached like a Defensive or Offensive Coordinator for instance. Both Davis and Parker make a base salary of $515,000, the same as Doyle.

In Kings acceptance speech for the Thorpe award didn't he say something like Parker is his best friend. Seems to me Parker shouldn't be #33 on the list if he's that impactful to players, in addition to having a top 10 defense. I mean this isn't the only year we've had a stellar defense.

 

[MepoDawg#]

http://m.hawkeyesports.com/m/sports/m-footbl/mtt/chris_doyle_149283.html

His profile speaks for his compensation.

 

[RockEyeState]

Good for him. Man works his butt off.

And he has kids heading to college. Except that I think his son is an outstanding student and probably got a load of academic scholarship money

 

[hawks_82]

Unless you're unemployed, work for your father in law, or work for yourself, you get paid what your boss thinks you're worth and you're delusional if you think they pay you more than your market value because they like you. They pay you what they think is fair for your skills, assuming you have some. If they pay you more than the average person in your field, then they are doing that to decrease the risk of losing you to a competitor. It's that simple. It works the same in coaching. I'm just saying the risk of losing a coordinator to another program is much higher than losing a strength coach, therefore I would expect coordinator salaries to reflect that and be a bit more inflated. If you'd rather just harass me and tell me You wouldn't want to work for me that's fine, I guess. I still haven't heard an actual argument supporting his salary.

Maybe I am mistaken or naive, but look at it this way. Doyle has been in his position since 1999. He has seen pay increases at the same position the entire time.

While Parker has been here, he started off as a position coach before becoming a coordinator. His pay likely started quite a bit lower as a position coach, his pay adjusted accordingly becoming a coordinator, and has had a few years of pay increases. Similar could be said for Davis, albeit not as a position coach, but as a new hire

Could also make the argument Doyle is a team coordinator as strength coach

 

[ISPHawk]

Worth every penny!

 

[Herkmeister]

I hope he never retires and dies when he is 106!!!

 

[ih8iast8]

And he has kids heading to college. Except that I think his son is an outstanding student and probably got a load of academic scholarship money

Great Family, another example of an outstanding representative of the state of Iowa on our coaching staff.

 

[tho-hawk]

I don't need to provide any actual arguments. His work speaks for itself. Developing walk-ons, 2*, and 3* recruits into NFL players.

Exactly. I personally think Doyle is the difference for Iowa. Every year we see how poorly our recruiting classes rank. And every year Doyle finds a way to make mountains out of mole hills. If this was so easy as '20' describes, then why is Iowa the best team at sending 2-3 star kids to the NFL. He motivates these kids into packing muscle on their frames. It is a complex science, not a bunch of jack-offs lifting weight in their dads garage. Doyle didn't get a 2-week training certificate and become S&C. They come up with the exact nutrients each kid needs, Tailor the work out for the kids, then get in their head to make them want to be better.

So we can trade Doyle for some Jack-off from 24 hour fitness, and save $350,000 per year. Then lose games, fire Ferentz, become a joke swapping coaches all the time like several college football teams and lose millions and millions in revenue.

I think we could replace our OC, and DC much easier. And I think Doyle brings a lot more to the table.

 

[Mountain Man Hawk]

I imagine Kirk has a ton of say in how money for the various assistant coach positions is divvied up. My guess is the University sets aside a certain amount of money and Kirk made the decision that Doyle is deserving of an equal share as the coordinators.

 

[eyeohuh]

Doyle is the man

 

[ping72]

He is the only coach that can contact players all year long. They spend a lot more time with him than any other coach.