I'm not far left, as stated in that post.
And I was simply pointing out whom Dems should nominate to increase their chances of winning in 2020.
Elizabeth Warren takes big move toward 2020 presidential run
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I'm not far left, as stated in that post.
And I was simply pointing out whom Dems should nominate to increase their chances of winning in 2020.
She didn’t just say, “my family has always said I we have Native American ancestors.” She filled out a form and checked the box “Native American” instead of Caucasian.
That crosses a line that I can’t go along with.
I align with almost every position that Warren has, but I'm lukewarm to her as a POTUS.
On the second page of the thread I'm still waiting for the conservatives who characterize Warren as being nuts, crazy, far-left, etc. to cite a single policy position to back those claims. In her years of public service she has advocated for policies that don't allow corporations to externalize their costs and/or stack the deck against ordinary citizens. Sign me up for that.
At this point in the process and with out really doing a deep dive into anyone rumored to be in the running from the dem side I would not prefer any of the upper east coast candidates. To me they seem to be a little too cozy with the corporate world. Harris is intriguing because her background would lead her to run a great campaign. Don't be fooled as she is an old school cut throat type politician. Beto has to prove he has the ability to lead a party and not just throw out the red meat.
I would not be surprised if we see an all woman ticket from the dems that could win it.
Again, its way to early.
I would not be surprised if we see an all woman ticket from the dems that could win it.
Again, its way to early.
And she did that, claim a Native American ancestry, because her family told her the story. She didn’t receive hiring preference or tenure preference, at least according to Harvard.
If she runs, wins the nomination, and goes against Donald Trump, who is the most truthful and ethical person? Other than the 30ish percent of Americans who are hardcore supporters, who are going to say she is less truthful?
You're good, bro.
I'm much closer to the left than I am the right. Outside of groups like ANTIFA, you guys are the sane ones.
I would vote for Warren over Trump every day of the week. I think she's too risky, though. Assuming President Pussygrabber is still there, Dems can't leave anything to chance in 2020.
I would vote for anybody over Trump. I'm comparing her to my ideal candidate.
As far as her claim, my family has a much more specific claim -- that my great grandmother on my mother's side was 100% Cherokee. I have pictures of her, and it appears plausible. This is a far, far stronger claim to Native American ancestry that Warren has. But I would never dream of checking that box on any form I've ever filled out.
You know she claimed to be a "native american." She didn't merely state there was some Indian blood down the line several generations. Quit covering for her lie.
I agree that the 'upper east coast' candidates have a stereotype to overcome-- they always do-- but I don't think Murphy falls into line with the comment about being too cozy with corporations. I think he is a serious candidate and that being from CT may be his biggest fault.
How many Hail Marys will you have to do for this joke? Just shows again that people who hide behind a Bible are some of the worst I can think of.
so...you are saying that she exploited her ancestry to gain some sort of advantage? Like, she was intentionally deceiving? Why would she do that?
Serious question. I would like to know more.
agreed but focus on the people who act this way and not the bible, and definitely not the teachings of Jesus.
For mortgage reporting, in the old days you could only check one box for race and ethnicity. Now you can choose multiple. I'm guessing this job application was similar. It's a non-story, I don't understand why this is even news.
(Fun fact: a borrower can now also choose to be male and female.)
I can only imagine the debates of a Biden vs Trump. Serious entertainment.
I don't know what her motivation was -- although it seems likely she thought it might assist her in some kind of Affirmative Action process in the future. What I don't believe for a moment is that she ever thought she had significant Native American blood in her. When questioned, her living family members either a)don't recall ever hearing about Native American ancestry, or b)recall vague stories of small amounts of NA blood.
But it seems pretty clear she was lying.
I don't think Lutherans say Hail Mary's. In fact, I think their ancestors tortured and murdered Catholics (and vice versa).
Said by a Trump voter...
Here's what makes the Democrats so stupid when picking candidates...they should have had a Clinton/Obama ticket in 2008, with Obama taking the presidency in 2016. They could have held the White House for 16 years.
...except Beto in the VP seat. He will bring votes and whoever the Dems put up against President Pence could be hard pressed to find a better running mate.
Or Biden should have run in 2016. Same result.
Anyone who would vote/support trump would obviously not vote for an honest politician so she would get those votes. Hopefully she doesn't have to rely on those bottom feeder votes. That being said, I hope to find someone younger.
And even if she did, this is ALL the stupid conservatives need to vote against her...even though their assclown of a POTUS lies every single day to them. Every. Single. Day. It's insanity.
I don’t think we will have to worry about her being the nominee. Just a hunch.
I'm going to pray for you.
Just going by the numbers I think Warren takes Trump. He has lost support since 2016 which means that he'll probably get around 60 million votes in 2020. Factor in another electoral college disaster for the Dems and lets say that any hypothetical Dem candidate would need to get 65 million to beat him. That should be more than doable for Warren. Dems have gotten at least 65 million the last three elections (2016,12,08) and even got 65 million running Hillary who was the 2nd most disliked candidate ever.
So for me it all boils down to this basic question: Will Warren be more disliked that Hillary? I say no. Which means she should be able to get at least 65 million and hang a W on Trump.
So for me it all boils down to this basic question: Will Warren be more disliked that Hillary? I say no. Which means she should be able to get at least 65 million and hang a W on Trump.
Ah, come on now.. what else would you expect Harvard to say?
Oh, right, we forgot that the academics always lie.
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