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One good season? Look around at the college landscape, the examples are literally everywhere 😂 and yes recruiting plays and should play 2nd fiddle, you can literally have a whole new roster of PROVEN players overnight with the portal.
And i didn’t say anything about tanking…but i would argue 1 thing to gain from it would be Fran presumably going bye-bye!

And i gave a perfect example of “people ponying up money to buy players” when the program was losing every game. Happened just a mere 2hrs west of Iowa City
There are also examples everywhere of teams retaining players. In fact, most teams retain more players than they acquire in the portal. So calling recruiting 2nd fiddle is an exaggeration.

Proven players or not, continuity is huge in a sport like basketball.

The post you responded too was talking about a "tanking" mentality. And you, yourself mentioned your struggles with supporting the program. And no, Iowa doesn't need to lose all of its games for there to be a coaching change.

ISU has one whale donor that is friends with TJ and would probably buy the players regardless. Not the case with Iowa and most schools.

Anything else?
 
There are also examples everywhere of teams retaining players. In fact, most teams retain more players than they acquire in the portal. So calling recruiting 2nd fiddle is an exaggeration.

Proven players or not, continuity is huge in a sport like basketball.

The post you responded too was talking about a "tanking" mentality. And you, yourself mentioned your struggles with supporting the program. And no, Iowa doesn't need to lose all of its games for there to be a coaching change.

ISU has one whale donor that is friends with TJ and would probably buy the players regardless. Not the case with Iowa and most schools.

Anything else?
Go through the top 25 teams and count up the # of transfers per team…ill even help you with the link.

 
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In the world of NIL, recruiting is 2nd fiddle to the portal. Ya, sure it sucks for the players that they are taking heat. But acting like recruiting is a big deal anymore? Get real. Look at our neighbors to the West…win 2 games 1 season and change coaches and go to the sweet16 the very next. The right coach brings players with him and pulls the right players from the portal. IMO, it’s pretty damn hard to support the program while wanting/hoping/praying for the much needed coaching change! Frans time has run its course, i just hope that the people in charge and Fran himself realizes that
except the portal is more about money than anything else. plus my response here was about not wishing Hawks to lose every game and look bad doing it. no fan should want that for the players.
 
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except the portal is more about money than anything else. plus my response here was about not wishing Hawks to lose every game and look bad doing it. no fan should want that for the players.
I think that’s part of why Fran needs to exit stage left, his product doesn’t make donors want to give anything to the program and i think it’s been noted he’s not good at going out and “fundraising”. I agree it’s not cool for the players getting smacked around on the court…but who’s fault is that? I can cheer all i want and watch every game, it’s not suddenly going to make them more athletic and better players or Fran a better coach, they’re still gna get slapped around!
So here’s a question, how exactly does a fan go about “supporting the program” without supporting Fran at the same time?
 
I think that’s part of why Fran needs to exit stage left, his product doesn’t make donors want to give anything to the program and i think it’s been noted he’s not good at going out and “fundraising”. I agree it’s not cool for the players getting smacked around on the court…but who’s fault is that? I can cheer all i want and watch every game, it’s not suddenly going to make them more athletic and better players or Fran a better coach, they’re still gna get slapped around!
So here’s a question, how exactly does a fan go about “supporting the program” without supporting Fran at the same time?
as per this post: you do not root against the players and hope they lose every game looking bad doing it…..that is what my reply was about. I never mentioned Fran… referencing the players and how an Iowa fan should react to them. as for the players getting smacked around…..they are what they are.
 
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I think that’s part of why Fran needs to exit stage left, his product doesn’t make donors want to give anything to the program and i think it’s been noted he’s not good at going out and “fundraising”. I agree it’s not cool for the players getting smacked around on the court…but who’s fault is that? I can cheer all i want and watch every game, it’s not suddenly going to make them more athletic and better players or Fran a better coach, they’re still gna get slapped around!
So here’s a question, how exactly does a fan go about “supporting the program” without supporting Fran at the same time?
I think the biggest way to support the program right now is to not support Fran and hope he continues to fail miserably so he gets fired. Sucks for the players but it has to be done.
 
I think the biggest way to support the program right now is to not support Fran and hope he continues to fail miserably so he gets fired. Sucks for the players but it has to be done.
I can never root against the Hawks. For any reason.
 
as per this post: you do not root against the players and hope they lose every game looking bad doing it…..that is what my reply was about. I never mentioned Fran… referencing the players and how an Iowa fan should react to them. as for the players getting smacked around…..they are what they are.
so doing exactly what 90% of the fanbase is already doing…being apathetic.
 
I think that’s part of why Fran needs to exit stage left, his product doesn’t make donors want to give anything to the program and i think it’s been noted he’s not good at going out and “fundraising”. I agree it’s not cool for the players getting smacked around on the court…but who’s fault is that? I can cheer all i want and watch every game, it’s not suddenly going to make them more athletic and better players or Fran a better coach, they’re still gna get slapped around!
So here’s a question, how exactly does a fan go about “supporting the program” without supporting Fran at the same time?
Yet in an above post you seem to claim that a worse product wouldn't hurt donations.

As for your question, unfortunately it seems we've gotten to a place in society where I actually have to give you credit for a thoughtful question.

At the same time, the question is absolutely infuriating. It's like, do you really have to ask? How did Cubs fans exist for 100 years before they won anything? You're either a fan or you're not.

You go to as many games as you can. When you are there, you cheer loudly and enthusiastically. Yes, a good crowd can and usually does help the team play better. You care about and believe in the players. You keep fighting for them and remain a positive voice in the community. If you have contact with the players, be encouraging. I would say, continue to donate money to the program, if not only for the sake of recruiting, or the next coach. But I'm not going to tell anyone what to do with their money.

Really, at this point, and in this day of me first message boarders, it's about damage control. Don't contribute to negativity in the community (including message boards). Don't root for the team to lose. Continue to attend games. Don't shit on the program to an extent where it's not an attractive place for the best players to stay and recruits to join. Don't shit on the program to an extent where donors are no longer willing to contribute.

Can some of these actions be interpreted as support for Fran? Sure. But in the end, that's irrelevant. Simply do what fans do, and support the team. AD's get paid a lot of money to make capable coaching hiring/firing decisions.

Granted he was an assistant, but Brian Ferentz got fired in the midst of great fan attendance and team success. Dr. Tom wasn't retained in the midst of great fan attendance. How many Cubs managers and Cowboys coaches have gotten canned in the midst of drawing packed houses? AD's are going to do what they do, regardless.

If the only thing an AD considers is fan feedback/attendance, he/she is very bad at the job. Of course fan feedback/attendance is part of the calculus. But things don't need to get any worse here for that "voice" to be heard. Again, at this point it's about damage control. Don't contribute to the negativity.

The whole be as negative as possible, "tear it down" mentality, is bullshit. Completely unnecessary, childish, and harmful. And almost entirely, nothing but an attempt by fans to justify their poor behavior
 
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