Excellent Andre Woolridge article from Omaha paper
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I can't read it without the stupid pop up wanting you to subscribe. Regardless, Woolridge was a stud and one of the greatest hawks of all time. Thanks nebraska
One of my favorite players. First player to lead league in scoring and assists. Should have won the 97 Big Ten player of the year even before that cheater Bobby Jackson had to forfeit it.
I was at the game that they beat us in IC.
We sat just a few rows behind Haskins.
It was a great game. What did Minn get busted cheating for? Academics or paying players?
Academic fraud. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they paid players too
"In 1999, an academic fraud scandal revealed that Minnesota academic counseling office manager Jan Gangelhoff had done coursework for at least 20 Minnesota basketball players since 1993. Four players from the Minnesota basketball team were immediately suspended, pending an investigation for academic fraud. Head coach Clem Haskins, men's athletic director Mark Dienhart, and university vice president McKinley Boston all resigned. The NCAA sanctioned Minnesota by vacating all appearances in the 1994, 1995, and 1997 NCAA Tournaments and 1996 and 1998 National Invitational Tournaments, as well as individual records of those student-athletes found to have committed academic fraud. The NCAA further issued show-cause penalties for Haskins and Newby (both until October 23, 2007) and Gangelhoff (until October 23, 2005)."
I've attended a few games at the Barn. When ever Minnesota fans start giving me the business I look up and say "Hey, where's the Final Four banner?". "Oh yeah...forgot about that whole cheating thing. Sorry."
Dr. Tom's system was perfect for good pt guards, dating back to his Boston College days w/John Bagley and Michael Adams. Throw in BJ, who I know he didn't recruit but flourished under him, Dean Oliver and of course Woolridge. Woolridge was a great leader and pt guard.
And yet Iowa still claims their 1980 Final Four despite academic fraud with members of that team.
oh really...do tell. I missed the part where the NCAA came down with sanctions and took away the tourney wins.
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I looked at the all time list of vacated wins..........saw Iona.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vacated_and_forfeited_games_in_college_basketball
Link? And I did google it but it's not out there in the websphere than I can see. I was in school around that time and for sometime after that and don't recall anything about it.
So it is ok to cheat, as long as you don't get caught?
Oh, wait...they got caught.
So it is ok to cheat, as long as the NCAA doesn't sanction you?
Might be this one. I heard about it, Ferris is very sick.
https://www.widerightnattylite.com/...-for-recruiting-violations-in-multiple-sports
https://www.widerightnattylite.com/...-for-recruiting-violations-in-multiple-sports
Is it OK to be a dipshit, as long are you're an ISU fan? (rhetorical question)
Link? I’d like more information regarding this terrible cheating scandal that wasn’t punished by the NCAA.
I'd just be grateful for any sort of justification for accusing Iowa of cheating. I know there were things that weren't always "per the rules", but writing papers and taking exams for students is beyond what I heard was going on.
A self-study course was created by a professor who was also on the athletics governing board called "Basketball Insights". Only basketball players took the course, and they were awarded excessive credits when they did take it. One player took the same course 3 times and obtained 14 credit hours.
7 players (Ronnie Lester, Bobby Hansen, Mike Henry, Mark Gannon, Kevin Boyle, Kenny Arnold, Waymond King) were have found to have taken the course.
It was listed as a grad level education class, and none of the players were in education and only one had graduated when he took the class..
The suggested reading items for the student-athletes was from a list entitled, "sports books for children". The players were also supposed to put together a booklet about Iowa basketball, but only one of them ever did. Lester appears to have taken the class seriously as he was the one player to write the book for the class.
A superior found out about it and told the professor to stop, but he did not. When it was found out he was still doing it he was forced to resign.
The school went back and reduced the credit hours for some of the players (ones who not graduated at the time it was discovered), but only went back to 1981 with their audit...for good reasons.
Over the years I've talked to some of the players from this era and this was pretty well known and no one really seemed to care to much. I also got the feeling they all assumed it was happening at other schools, which it very well may have. I'd be very surprised if Iowa was the leader in this stuff.
I think schools do a much better job these days of getting players to class and to do the work and be ready to succeed after school instead of just passing them through until their eligibility is exhausted.
So something known but not investigated/reported? And a class with only 7 students (who retook it several times) sure should have set off alarms for someone.
Why can't I find anything on it? And why wasn't it bigger in the news when I was a student during those years? Anyone else remember it?
Can you share a link or a google search phrase that would help find this story? I couldn’t find it and I was quite bored today and tomorrow appears to be more of the same.
So an accounting was given to the B1G, I am sure the article goes on to mention the punishments taken. Can someone share those?
Wow - small blurb, 1 paragraph buried on p. 3 of the NY Times Sports section. Not exactly earth-shaking. And no real smoking gun as the class (independent study) only lasted 2 years and had only those bball players. From what I see, the class did not exist in 1980 (it was from 1981 - 83) so it would not have affected Iowa's 1980 Final 4. Nothing about it being a grad level class, though. We'll have to take Legend's word on that.
Edit: this article gives a little more info, describes tge course as graduate level, and doesn't require a subscription: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/0...accused-of-awarding-basketball/5192456724800/
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Back to Andre. That guy was an incredible pg. He really carried the team his senior year.
So unless legend has another 'smoking gun' we can still recognize the Final Four team?
Luka is #12 on the All Time Scoring list.
#13?
Well, check it out.
1 Roy Marble...2,116 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 134 GP, .539 FG%,, 15.8 ppg; 26 three pt goals)
2 Aaron White...1,859 (4 yrs: 2012-2015, 140 GP, .517 FG%,, 13.3 ppg; 61 three pt goals)
3 Acie Earl...1,779 (4 yrs: 1990-1993, 116 GP, .508 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 2 three pt goals)
4 Greg Stokes...1,768 (4 yrs: 1982-1985, 120 GP, .545 FG%,, 14.7 ppg)
5 BJ Armstrong...1,705 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 130 GP, .492 FG%,, 13.1 ppg; 136 three pt goals)
6 Roy Devyn Marble...1,694 (4 yrs: 2011-2014; 136 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.5 ppg; 134 three pt goals)
7 Ronnie Lester...1,675 (4 yrs: 1977-1980, 99 GP, .471 FG%,, 16.9 ppg)
8 Matt Gatens...1,635 (4 yrs: 2009-2012; 128 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.8 ppg; 239 three pt goals)
9 Jess Settles...1,611 (5 yrs: 1994-1997, 1999, 116 GP, .490 FG%,, 13.9 ppg; 113 three pt goals)
10 Adam Haluska...1,578 (3 yrs: 2005-2007; 98 GP, .430 FG%,, 16.1 ppg; 212 three pt goals); NOTE: 284 pts @ ISU = 1,862 in four years
11 Dean Oliver...1,561 (4 yrs: 1998-2001, 126 GP, .384 FG%,, 12.4 ppg; 161 three pt goals)
12 Luka Garza...1,559 (3 yrs: 2018-2020, 96 GP, .542 FG%, 16.2 ppg; 76 three pt goals)
13 Andre Woolridge...1,525 (3 yrs: 1995-1997, 97 GP, .467 FG%,, 15.7 ppg; 104 three pt goals)
#13?
Well, check it out.
1 Roy Marble...2,116 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 134 GP, .539 FG%,, 15.8 ppg; 26 three pt goals)
2 Aaron White...1,859 (4 yrs: 2012-2015, 140 GP, .517 FG%,, 13.3 ppg; 61 three pt goals)
3 Acie Earl...1,779 (4 yrs: 1990-1993, 116 GP, .508 FG%,, 15.3 ppg; 2 three pt goals)
4 Greg Stokes...1,768 (4 yrs: 1982-1985, 120 GP, .545 FG%,, 14.7 ppg)
5 BJ Armstrong...1,705 (4 yrs: 1986-1989, 130 GP, .492 FG%,, 13.1 ppg; 136 three pt goals)
6 Roy Devyn Marble...1,694 (4 yrs: 2011-2014; 136 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.5 ppg; 134 three pt goals)
7 Ronnie Lester...1,675 (4 yrs: 1977-1980, 99 GP, .471 FG%,, 16.9 ppg)
8 Matt Gatens...1,635 (4 yrs: 2009-2012; 128 GP, .415 FG%,, 12.8 ppg; 239 three pt goals)
9 Jess Settles...1,611 (5 yrs: 1994-1997, 1999, 116 GP, .490 FG%,, 13.9 ppg; 113 three pt goals)
10 Adam Haluska...1,578 (3 yrs: 2005-2007; 98 GP, .430 FG%,, 16.1 ppg; 212 three pt goals); NOTE: 284 pts @ ISU = 1,862 in four years
11 Dean Oliver...1,561 (4 yrs: 1998-2001, 126 GP, .384 FG%,, 12.4 ppg; 161 three pt goals)
12 Luka Garza...1,559 (3 yrs: 2018-2020, 96 GP, .542 FG%, 16.2 ppg; 76 three pt goals)
13 Andre Woolridge...1,525 (3 yrs: 1995-1997, 97 GP, .467 FG%,, 15.7 ppg; 104 three pt goals)
I've never seen a player do more with just one arm.
IF the Minnesota academic fraud would have been discovered in the 1997 season (instead of 3 years later):
* Andre would have been the B1G Player of the Year
* Iowa would have won the B1G regular season Championship
* It might have saved Tom Davis' job
the stuff "legend" makes up is legendary, you have to admit
Only a douche would call himself "legend".
