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Expect a HUGE lawsuit from father whose 7 yr old died from dehydration

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From USAToday:

The young girl was detained last week by Border Patrol agents after illegally crossing the southern border into the United States. She died after suffering from a high fever and seizures, according to federal immigration authorities, who said the father was ultimately at fault.

A Customs and Border Protection official said Friday that the girl was given a cursory, visual medical screening by agents when the group was initially detained. He said water and food were available throughout their stay, but could not confirm whether the girl had any.

The CBP official said the father signed a form indicating his daughter had no medical problems, and he only alerted Border Patrol agents when she started suffering seizures while being transported on a bus from one Border Patrol station to another.

"There were agents on the bus. The father could have brought this issue to their attention sooner," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to fully explain the details of the girl's death.

In the statement from the family’s lawyers on Saturday, they said Jakelin and her father, who speak Q’eqchi’ and do not speak English, were given federal forms to sign that were in English. They said Spanish is the family’s second language.

“It is unacceptable for any government agency to have persons in custody sign documents in a language that they clearly do not understand,” read the statement issued by lawyers Enrique Moreno, Elena Esparza, Lynn Coyle and Christopher Benoit.

The DHS Inspector General has opened an investigation into the case to ensure that all proper steps were taken. But DHS officials made clear that such tragedies will happen when so many people make the long and dangerous trek to enter the U.S. illegally.

"It's heart-wrenching. And my heart goes out to the family," Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Friday. "This is just a very sad example of the dangers of this journey. This family chose to cross illegally. We’ll continue to look into the situation, but again, I cannot stress enough how dangerous this journey is when migrants choose to come here illegally.”


LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...pute-border-patrols-account-death/2326221002/
 
From a prior article it said she started having seizures about 8 hours after arriving and then died 24 hours later. It also said she hadn’t ate or drank in days, which means it had been days prior to getting taken in. This article also states water was made available to them. This isn’t on DHS in the slightest and the dad should be tried for murder because that’s what he did. He murdered his child (assuming this is really his) either through neglect or on purpose for this very reason— financial incentive.
 
There's a judge in Texas that will be more than happy to congratulate Border patrol for a job well done. He'll probably just start writing his own laws about it too.
 
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This absolutely needs to be investigated.

Anytime you have a death under the control of an agency it needs to be investigated. And it probably needs to be conducted by a third party.

In my eyes the CBP has a huge credibility problem when they keep repeating that this father and daughter were coming here illegally, which is demonstrably false since applying for asylum isn't illegal, which makes the CBP's accounts less trustworthy.

Other things, like having immigrants sign forms in a language they don't understand, undermines the CBP's credibility of what happened. It calls into question everything the CBP claims happened.

Investigate it.
 
Another question is how this child made it thousands of miles over many months only to become deathly dehydrated at the end? If it was parental neglect then how did the father manage to keep her in good health up until the last couple of days then suddenly stop caring for her?
 
Trump's closure of the largest ports of entry also should also be factored in. This was a smaller entry point that seemed overwhelmed with the additional migrants. Did Trumps closing of the larger ports funnel these migrants into smaller ones causing these foreseeable logjams?
 
Yet another possible redflag is that it took Trump's administration a full week to release this death. Why so long? Additionally, why did Congress have to learn of this through the news? Shouldn't they have known earlier? It makes the administration look secretive until they could get their stories straight.
 
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Of course they are,lawyers are crooks and looking for a payday. The father should be charged with child endangerment and involuntary manslaughter. Then he would get his three hots and a cot on the taxpayers just like he was looking for.
It would be interesting if the father were charged with neglect/child endangerment/or more
 
It would be interesting if the father were charged with neglect/child endangerment/or more
Or the DHS. According to the report they delayed medical attention for a full hour and a half after they were notified of the child having severe problems.
 
If this had happened in the USA, the parents would be in jail right now. It is no defense to a criminal child abuse charge that the hospital was negligent.
 
If this had happened in the USA, the parents would be in jail right now. It is no defense to a criminal child abuse charge that the hospital was negligent.
It doesn’t happen in the US because we are removed from making desperate decisions like this. Go back 175 years when my people left poverty and political chaos in Germany to go by foot, than steerage class across the Atlantic to get here.
We are numb to the realities of others. I’m not saying give him a Dad Of The Year coffee mug, but know why he risked it.
 
It doesn’t happen in the US because we are removed from making desperate decisions like this. Go back 175 years when my people left poverty and political chaos in Germany to go by foot, than steerage class across the Atlantic to get here.
We are numb to the realities of others. I’m not saying give him a Dad Of The Year coffee mug, but know why he risked it.

First of all, it does happen in the USA. Second, food and water was availble to these people in the caravan. And, finally, these parents could have stopped anywhere in Mexico to seek asylum if the life of their daughter was in jeopardy.
 
Many people are saying that Trump’s policies are forcing border crossers deeper into the desert to make riskier crossings. Many people are also saying that the failure to even attempt leadership on a comprehensive immigrationpolicy is a sign Trump just wants to show he’s tough on the brown people. Many people think it’s a lie that you can’t do reform at the same time as securing the border.
 
First of all, it does happen in the USA. Second, food and water was availble to these people in the caravan. And, finally, these parents could have stopped anywhere in Mexico to seek asylum if the life of their daughter was in jeopardy.
Link to Americans crossing 1000 miles of desert to a better life?
Perhaps you are confusing two separate topics? Sh*tty parents versus desperate migrants?
 
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Another question is how this child made it thousands of miles over many months only to become deathly dehydrated at the end? If it was parental neglect then how did the father manage to keep her in good health up until the last couple of days then suddenly stop caring for her?

I looked into this a bit, apparently deserts are dry.
 
First of all, it does happen in the USA. Second, food and water was availble to these people in the caravan. And, finally, these parents could have stopped anywhere in Mexico to seek asylum if the life of their daughter was in jeopardy.

Allegedly available. We've had plenty of instances already where claims from "agents" have not been factual....
 
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Yet another possible redflag is that it took Trump's administration a full week to release this death. Why so long? Additionally, why did Congress have to learn of this through the news? Shouldn't they have known earlier? It makes the administration look secretive until they could get their stories straight.

Dude, not every person is a boogie man waiting to do awful things to people. You sound really uneducated in this thread.

It wasn’t this poor girls last 8 hours of time
On the earth that killed her, it was the previous 72.
 
Link to Americans crossing 1000 miles of desert to a better life?
Perhaps you are confusing two separate topics? Sh*tty parents versus desperate migrants?

Where the parents of this young girl starving or dehydrated? Where the parents in need of medical attention? There were hundreds of young children in this caravan? How many died? You're ignoring obvious neglect.
 
Dude, not every person is a boogie man waiting to do awful things to people. You sound really uneducated in this thread.

It wasn’t this poor girls last 8 hours of time
On the earth that killed her, it was the previous 72.

There is zero indication that this little girl's parents were lacking food and water. I'm very suspious of this situation.
 
Yet another possible redflag is that it took Trump's administration a full week to release this death. Why so long? Additionally, why did Congress have to learn of this through the news? Shouldn't they have known earlier? It makes the administration look secretive until they could get their stories straight.

Dude, not every person is a boogie man waiting to do awful things to people. You sound really uneducated in this thread.

It wasn’t this poor girls last 8 hours of time
On the earth that killed her, it was the previous 72.
You just have to ignore Huey. He’s a troll, an uneducated one at that. He keeps harping the same undeniably false statements time and time again thinking that if he keeps repeating them they’ll become true. I think he was dropped a lot as a child. Fed paint chips too.
 
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Dude, not every person is a boogie man waiting to do awful things to people. You sound really uneducated in this thread.

It wasn’t this poor girls last 8 hours of time
On the earth that killed her, it was the previous 72.

There is zero indication that this little girl's parents were lacking food and water. I'm very suspious of this situation.

Well you typically don’t die of dehydration over an 8 hour period or are you denying this sort of science?
 
There is zero indication that this little girl's parents were lacking food and water.

Except the fact she died of a fever and dehydration....

She came in fully hydrated then border control dehydrated her to a point of death after 8 short hours.

Maybe DJ Durkin is working on the border now that he has some time off.
 
There is zero indication that this little girl's parents were lacking food and water.

Except the fact she died of a fever and dehydration....

Which means she has really bad parents. If she had a fever to the point of throwing up and the shits she would dehydrate fairly quickly (not 8 hours quickly though) and you would have to force water into her.

Shame on them, they killed their own child and probably should just kill themselves at this point.
 
Why are some so eager to believe the government line on this? Is CBP the only part of the government that is not part of THE DEEP STATE and must be believed 100%?

I want to see the medical records.

Because I don’t like seeing democrats go all Alex Jones for politics and that is what many are doing here.
 
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Another inconsistency is that the CBP had originally said that the child and father were separated at the border but then the CBP reversed this and claimed they were together the whole time.

Way too many inconsistencies to take the CBP at their word.
 
Why are some so eager to believe the government line on this? Is CBP the only part of the government that is not part of THE DEEP STATE and must be believed 100%?

I want to see the medical records.

EXACTLY

Accountability starts at the top, and when the top is pushing the worker bees to "dissuade" people from asking for asylum, things like "waiting to provide water", "letting them wait uncomfortably in the heat" etc become commonplace. Because that's a "feature", not a "bug" of the process.

So, let's get a reasonable and fair investigation on this. Get native speakers to directly interview half the folks in that group to describe how they were treated. Get sworn testimony from every CPB worker, under oath, with them understanding they'll go to jail for 15 yrs if they lie about what actually happened. Let's get any texts, calls etc among them on how they acted.

If they acted reasonably, then this is just a bad outcome. If they acted negligently, and some tried to cover it up, then let them rot in jail and take away any govt pension they had to pay the family with.

Accountability USED TO BE a GOP tenet. It apparently no longer is....
 
She came in fully hydrated then border control dehydrated her to a point of death after 8 short hours.
She came in sick and dehydrated, and CBP didn't provide adequate care.

If a hospital or nursing care center did this to an old person - just tossed them in a room and they died a day later, there would be a lot of people going to jail....
 
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