Explain to me why Phil Parker gets a pass…
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Yep, Danielson said a couple of times that our safeties were squatting on all of those underneath routes and at some point ISU would burn us deep. I guess the old QB, knew just what he was talking about....
Phil gets a pass from me because Spencer Petras and Deacon Hill have winning records at Iowa.
To the original post, let's forget previous seasons, previous stats, and let's just focus on the last drive of the game.
To not protect the sidelines when a team has zero timeouts is hard to fathom from a great defensive coach/team. That's pretty much situational football 101. Don't let them advance the ball up the field unless they are going to pay :08-:10 for each play.
My second beef goes back to the Purdue point made earlier. Bell somehow managed to torch us his senior year when everybody knew that was the only way they were going to hurt us.
We needed 5 DBs in the game and sideline protection on the last drive.
To not protect the sidelines when a team has zero timeouts is hard to fathom from a great defensive coach/team. That's pretty much situational football 101. Don't let them advance the ball up the field unless they are going to pay :08-:10 for each play.
My second beef goes back to the Purdue point made earlier. Bell somehow managed to torch us his senior year when everybody knew that was the only way they were going to hurt us.
We needed 5 DBs in the game and sideline protection on the last drive.
I think that doesn't come down to one play. As I said he pulls X when we play the base 4-3. How often would you see that happening to a 3rd year 5 star? I think PP knows what he has, and does not have in X at this point, and I think he would have been passed already as a starter if KE hadn't been injured..
I don't think it was adjustments, it was three broken coverages. Maybe ISU saw something to run the boot on their first TD drive. The second TD and the wheel up the sideline on the final drive where just flat out busted coverages that would be bad at virtually any level of football.
I see an issue with our coverage packages. Nebraska beat us deep in '22 and 23 for TDs. Iowa State did it yesterday. I don't blame the players, they line up as they are instructed. The defensive staff needs to get this figured out or opponents who have good quarterbacks and receivers will beat us long all season.
We are SO spoiled by Phil's defense that people are actually bitching about giving up 20 points when our offense missed multiple opportunities to put the game away.
You can't stop every play the other team runs. They're going to score. So you have to make some of your own. THAT is where this (and many other) games have been lost under Kirk.
You can't stop every play the other team runs. They're going to score. So you have to make some of your own. THAT is where this (and many other) games have been lost under Kirk.
He doesn't, like KF feasts on weak teams and running clock out, then gets exposed vs real teams or even OK teams like ISU. Media swallowed the elite D thing but most know it's all BS. This D isn't or hasn't been any better than Minny or Whisky. But their O's at least try to score and not run clock. Like Cowturd said 'fake ID'.
Spoiled by a lightweight schedule. This D is awful vs good teams. Rather obvious.
There were a lot of problems leading up to the final series in question, but I would agree with OP that this was not one of Phil's finer moments,.. The running clock was our friend and any potential reception needed to be covered and, if necessary, tackled in bounds...
you wrote a reasonable (bolded) first sentence and then followed it up with pure bs. so nod to the first but nah to the second.
The D didn’t lose this game. The offense failing to punch the ball in w first and goal from the 1 and the 3 is what lost the game.
I hope in one of the responses in here, there was because he has earned a pass. Two plays really. TJ Hall had the pick in the end zone but the receiver took it from him. Then of course #1 getting torched with his eyes in the wrong place.
So you assume the DC decides who plays on defense, but the HC decides who plays on offense. 🤣Seems logical
I bet the OP says this to his wife about her when she has a day that doesn't quite go right at home.
It is logical. Who do you think KF trusts more? Phil or Lester? I think Phil rules the D and KF knows it's best to leave it to him.
Lester, I imagine, has a much shorter leash.
Iowa's NEVER had an "elite" defense. Good? Sure. Very good? Why not. But I wouldn't call it "elite" or "great". It's good enough to hang around with Penn State and maybe even Michigan last year had Iowa even pretended to field an offense, but the relative lack of depth and athleticism reared its ugly head against Tennessee. The Vols exposed the Hawks in ways that even PSU and U-M couldn't. They toyed with Iowa for four quarters and there wasn't a blessed thing the Hawks could do about it.
Iowa's got a statistically great defense because they don't play a lot of good offenses. Iowa's offense was historically bad last year, but they weren't the only B1G with a crappy offense. In addition to Iowa, five other B1G teams finished 100th or worse in PPG last season (Indiana, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern) and Rutgers just barely avoided triple digits (98th). Wisconsin, Illinois, and Purdue couldn't crack the top 80. Yeah, the B1G is still very much a "three yards and a cloud of dust" league when virtually everyone else flings the pigskin around with reckless abandon.
Long story short, truly elite defenses challenge elite offenses. Iowa rarely faces elite offenses, and even more rarely succeeds when they do.
agree on not elite...we don't have the recruits to be elite. missing a stud DE badly this yr. have to give Ia State credit. their qb and wr's were the best on the field by a wide mrgin.....Iowa needs to do a much better job in talent evaluation at those positions.
At least PP benched X when he f'd up on that deep ball. KF will never bench the QB when they are just playing horrible.
PP will have the defense corrected for this weeks game, i have little to no faith in the offense being different.
Lol. Another that assumes the DC decides who plays on defense and the HC decides who plays on offense.
You guys reveal yourselves without even knowing it
Clock management killed us again as well. Why TF did KF take a timeout with 1min and so many seconds left in the 1st? Even the announcers were like "ISU took a... wait, that was Iowa that called TO...".
KF is a horrible clock manager and has been since day1.
This gets to the heart of the issue here. Kirk leans on the defense to hold serve or get the win. When they have a letdown like in the second half they take a share of the blame for the loss. I trust Phil to analyze what went wrong and adjust accordingly. Game mismanagement at the macro level lost this game.
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No offense, but KF has stated on multiple occasions that he lets Phil and his coaches do their thing with the D and he gravitates to the offense based on his background. Lots of coaches do that on either side. Defensive minded head coaches tend to gravitate to the defense and let the OC do their thing and make the decisions and offensive coaches do the opposite.
I'm pretty sure KF isn't going to override Phil on which strong safety to play. But he's absolutely going to have final say on the QB as it's the most important position on the field and it's the side of the ball that's in his wheelhouse.
They gave up 20 points the entire game. Good by any definition. ISU made some good adjustments and their QB and wide receivers made some great plays. The problem is that Iowa can't score 20 points against any defense with a pulse. Any competent offense finds a way. Iowa is not that.
yes Heacock > Phil Parker because he snuck his safties into box because Iowa couldn't pass the ball. what a genius. He should win the Broyles award.
He doesn't, but logic would dictate that he's correct in his assumptions.
To the OP, he shouldn't
That final possession you have to push everything in to the middle of the field. We not only got beat, we got beat down the sideline.
That final possession you have to push everything in to the middle of the field. We not only got beat, we got beat down the sideline.
I agree.
I am still shocked any one player was given the opportunity to be beat down the sideline. Cover the sidelines and keep everything in front of you.
That last drive was textbook on what not to do defensively.
Unbelievable.
Great point. They not only knew they were throwing, but knew they had to be sideline area throws. The field of play they could operate in was very limited and we still got our asses beat.
One thing I am certain of ... if Parker dropped dead from a heart attack today. Kirk would replace him with someone far worse.
KOK = bad
Greg Davis = worse
BF = Emperor of clown world
Tim Lester = not sure, but it ain't lookin good.
KOK = bad
Greg Davis = worse
BF = Emperor of clown world
Tim Lester = not sure, but it ain't lookin good.
Plus, there are statements like this from today.
Koen Entringer says SS Xavier Nwankpa remains #1 on the depth chart, he's #2.
“I’m still in the same spot, yeah. ... That's Coach Parker's decision. I've just got to focus on how can I develop as a football player, how I can grow as a football player and be ready for whenever my number is called.”
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