Fans are partly to blame...

[Rifler]

The fan vs consumer comment carries weight,.. A place like this tends to attract a lot of the latter.

 

[Boomhawk52]

No. Iowa basketball can't compete with Creighton, monetarily.

Iowa's money goes to football, women's basketball, wrestling, men's basketball.

Creighton's money goes to basketball

Wrestling doesn’t even use NIL or swarm money. Don’t blob them in because they take care of the crowd aspect and always sell out

 

[eyesofhawk]

Wrestling doesn’t even use NIL or swarm money. Don’t blob them in because they take care of the crowd aspect and always sell out

I had heard differently. Please enlighten

 

[eyesofhawk]

Exactly. As was with Lickliter, fans were tired of a poor, futile product and spoke loudly. With their wallets.

At the end of the day, Fran lost the fanbase for a myriad of reasons. The fans didn’t quit.

No, those were consumers.

Fans still showed up.

Again, Ben seems to see it similarly, as he has said the best fanbases show up no matter what

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Yup. I pretty much quit caring about football about five years ago. Our offense is embarrassing to junior high coaches.

But yet you feel the need to post this nonsense.

 

[Slim45]

No, those were consumers.

Fans still showed up.

Again, Ben seems to see it similarly, as he has said the best fanbases show up no matter what

I didn’t realize it was free to go to games…? I always thought you had to like buy a ticket or something. And i think when someone pays money for something, that would make said person a consumer?
But yes, fans had better keep spending their money to go waste 4 hours of their day watching something that they really won’t enjoy. Because dammit, if they don’t they are NOT fans anymore! Makes perfect sense, keep beating that drum!

 

[TailgateTom]

No, those were consumers.

Fans still showed up.

Again, Ben seems to see it similarly, as he has said the best fanbases show up no matter what

Wrong.

 

[bobchawk]

yawwwwn

 

[BrewHawk]

I can't see everybody's posts on here( I quit on some...lol) but this thread could be Monty Pythons argument clinic Part 2.

No it couldn't.

 

[BonzoFury]

I didn’t realize it was free to go to games…? I always thought you had to like buy a ticket or something. And i think when someone pays money for something, that would make said person a consumer?
But yes, fans had better keep spending their money to go waste 4 hours of their day watching something that they really won’t enjoy. Because dammit, if they don’t they are NOT fans anymore! Makes perfect sense, keep beating that drum!

"Eyes" is usually full of it, but he does make a legitimate distinction here. Fan is short for "fanatic" and those people don't usually bail on their team as much as the more casual follower. Hardcore fans stick by their team through thick and thin.

 

[BrewHawk]

"Eyes" is usually full of it, but he does make a legitimate distinction here. Fan is short for "fanatic" and those people don't usually bail on their team as much as the more casual follower. Hardcore fans stick by their team through thick and thin.

I find it pretty amazing there were 5000 local fanatics that were willing to put up with watching that crap that Fran called basketball.

 

[BurgHawk87]

agree here--case in point--the year both the men and women played in Des MOines, the men,s game was decent but was just a ho hum win against a team they should beat--
The women,s in contrast you could sense the excitement everytime the Iowa women had the ball, the anticipation noise level would go up and there was a noticeable difference in the crowd between the 2 games--
The men,s game had like 2 wow moments but the women,s was virtually every other time down the court--and not just when CC had the ball,
Fran had a noticeable disconnect with the student body--the women sell out but not because like 4,000 students show up--they reserve some 4,000 tix for students for men,s games and like 200 would show up. Tells me something is off there.
Alford gave us the blueprint in how to remedy this--BM will remedy this--
Too bad Dix and Sandfort did not want to be part of the answer, but instead chose to run away because they could--2 sides to every coin right?

We had tickets to that double header and went out to eat during the men's game. Caught the tail end of it but don't regret that decision at all.