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Favorite lineup?

jonesy5960

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Iowa has great depth this year and we have seen a lot of combinations on the floor. I think my favorite lineup of late that we saw in the last game was Jbo, Garza, Keegan, Nunge and PMac. Great length, rebounding, and defense adding those 3 into the mix.
 
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I’d swap PMac for Joe W if looking for any extended run with that lineup. A more reliable scorer and decent rebounder too.

Or we could just go with our starting 5 too
 
actually I live there versatility of this team. Next season losing Garza and Bohannon hurts a lot but we will still have that versatility, great length and more speed. Patrick has been pretty fun to watch in his limited minutes but that kid had , 2 blocks I believe on backside help and nearly a bout 3 steals, great compliment with Kegan on the other side . Sure with them and Joe T there will be games with bad decisions but I can envision dunks coming frequently.
 
This is the lineup I ended the Northwestern game with.

Kris Murray
Keegan Murray
Michael Baer
Tony Perkins
Ahron Ulis

When we have a comfortable lead in the closing moments of the National Championship game, I plan on using my time outs and having players foul so, one at a time, I can pull CJ, then Connor, then Joe W, then JBo, and finally, the GOAT, Luka. I will replace these 5 starting studs, one at a time, with the 5 listed above.

Please have your DVRs and kleenex ready.

If you would rather see a different 5 than the 5 listed above, let me know, but I have given this a lot of thought, as you can tell.

But that's my favorite line up at the moment. ;)
 
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Jobo, elite 3 point shooter, assists/TO, will be less exposed with elite defenders around.
Wieskamp, at #2 guard, match up advantages, will improve scoring and provide another perimeter defender with length
Murray, #3. elite defense to defend the perimeter, rim while adding an efficient scorer
Nunge, #4 elite rebounder and rim protector to add to defensive efficiency, passing and inside scoring also pluses.
garza.

3 elite to above average scorers mixed in with elite defender and rebounders. In my view, gives IOWA the best mix of elite scoring, with vastly improved defense, and creates matchup problems for the opponent [2 effective post players, an elite scoring SG with size, perimeter length to defend the 3FGA,, and defensive rebounding to vastly reduce exposure to those teams that rely on 2nd chance attempt)

30 minutes plus for all except Nunge, and then a rotation of ConMac, CJF and PMac to fill in to tournament minutes, with P Mac picking up #4-5 minutes ( Nunge to #5 as Garza is out) and CJF, ConMac in at #123 holes in amount 20-22min a game
 
Not trying to be a smartass, but my favorite lineup is Iowa's starting lineup, although I would like Keegan in for
1-Bohannon
2-Frederick
3-Wieskamp
4-Murray
5-Garza
Best 3 point shooting lineup in the country. According to WS & BPM, this is our best lineup. Toussaint, the McCaffery’s & Nunge, is a nice bench.

I have absolutely no problem with our starting lineup, but this lineup is awesome. Great shooting, Murray does the little things, especially on defense, and can play inside and out.
 
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The magic of this team is that we have so many different combinations, and, they are all good. I like the starting lineup and I like the next wave that comes in because they are different and change the game. This is why Iowa is going to be a tough out for anybody. Teams have to play different games against us and most can’t.
 
The magic of this team is that we have so many different combinations, and, they are all good. I like the starting lineup and I like the next wave that comes in because they are different and change the game. This is why Iowa is going to be a tough out for anybody. Teams have to play different games against us and most can’t.

I agree. Iowa is a very difficult team to prepare for when you have 9 significant contributors.
 
Keegan needs more minutes
We are better on both ends when he is in.
I don’t think that there is any question that he is our Best defender.
I cringe every time the second unit comes in and he is not the first one off of the bench
 
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There is not one player in the rotation that causes me to think , ''oh, damn!'' when I see him on the court. They all contribute and they are all very capable. Not quite interchangeable, but very capable replacements. The only one that would really hurt us would be losing Garza. No one replaces him.
 
Not trying to be a smartass, but my favorite lineup is Iowa's starting lineup, although I would like Keegan in for


I have absolutely no problem with our starting lineup, but this lineup is awesome. Great shooting, Murray does the little things, especially on defense, and can play inside and out.
He does except ONE big thing, he struggles to feed the post which has been discussed. He just doesn't have the experience at this point. This is the one thing that CMac brings, and its a BIG thing to be able to get the ball where and when it needs to be loaded in to the Garzilla.
 
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He does except ONE big thing, he struggles to feed the post which has been discussed. He just doesn't have the experience at this point. This is the one thing that CMac brings, and its a BIG thing to be able to get the ball where and when it needs to be loaded in to the Garzilla.

Jbo is averaging the same number of assists per game as CMac in conference play so it's not like he's the only one who can do it. Keegan is not a point guard so I'm not sure why this comparison is being made.
 
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Jbo is averaging the same number of assists per game as CMac in conference play so it's not like he's the only one who can do it. Keegan is not a point guard so I'm not sure why this comparison is being made.
He shouldn't be feeding the post anyway.
 
Jbo is averaging the same number of assists per game as CMac in conference play so it's not like he's the only one who can do it. Keegan is not a point guard so I'm not sure why this comparison is being made.
Because in the proposed lineup by that poster Keegan would be replacing Cmac. CMac still is right at the top nationally in assist to TO%, and He's not a point guard, but the offense at least as far as feeding the post does flow through him. Go back and watch how are offense bogged down inside when he missed the game. Many of Jbo's assists are on passes to open three point shooters, and in transition, not feeding the post players. Just saying that Cmac has an important role on this team, and Keegan is in the perfect spot right now as a freshman coming in to help spark off the bench. See NO need at all to mess with whats working and this team appears to be progressing just fine under Frans direction this year.
 
I know we’re all having fun with this exercise and nothing critical being thrown about, but I can’t help but chuckle at the parallels between Keegan and AJ Epenesa freshman years.

Great players as freshman, dynamic, but ‘not playing enough’. Well, both are/were behind some pretty damn good players in their own right. And maybe, just maybe they were so good...was due to the way the coaches were using them.

And much like AJ, I think sky’s the limit for Keegan when he gets more run and more prominent role. And much like AJ, Keegan just keeps head down and works. 10 mins, 20 mins. Just works.
 
He does except ONE big thing, he struggles to feed the post which has been discussed. He just doesn't have the experience at this point. This is the one thing that CMac brings, and its a BIG thing to be able to get the ball where and when it needs to be loaded in to the Garzilla.
I'm not a big Connor fan, but u do have a point. Having said that, we don’t need 2 PG’s. If they both didn't have glaring weaknesses, ( Bohannon D & Connor O ) I wouldn’t question it. Averaging 3 points & shooting 20 some % from 3, is even shitty for Jason Kidd.🤷‍♂️ Now, Fran is no CyTwins, but he does know a little something about BB.😏
 
I'm not a big Connor fan, but u do have a point. Having said that, we don’t need 2 PG’s. If they both didn't have glaring weaknesses, ( Bohannon D & Connor O ) I wouldn’t question it. Averaging 3 points & shooting 20 some % from 3, is even shitty for Jason Kidd.🤷‍♂️ Now, Fran is no CyTwins, but he does know a little something about BB.😏

My guess is the starting unit is the unit Fran wants to close out games when he has a narrow lead, so he wants them to improve defensively + he believes in rewarding experience/seniority and the starting lineup is the most veteran group.

I think waiting for the TV timeout to make his first Sub can sometimes put the team in a deficit if the other team comes out with hot shooting or if Cmac at PF is in a bad matchup because the other team is not playing small ball.

The starting lineup with Cmac at the PF spot gets abused defensively at times. That was the lineup that got lit up in OT vs Minnesota. It was lineup that got down 10pts at Maryland. They don't play good defense because they are small inside with CMac at PF and easy to shoot over in the lane/get offensive rebound put backs. They are not that long/quick so easy to shoot over them at 3pt line. I don't think you have to start Keegan, but waiting for the 1st TV timeout to sub him in can at times get dangerous if other team comes out with hot shooting so I think Fran needs to be quicker to go to the bench.

Keegan was playing 10 minutes/game to start the season and Connor was playing over 30. Keegan should be playing 20-25 minutes per game unless he gets in foul trouble. CMac can
play positions 1-4, so more Keegan doesn't have to mean Connor can't play 25 minutes.
 
My guess is the starting unit is the unit Fran wants to close out games when he has a narrow lead, so he wants them to improve defensively + he believes in rewarding experience/seniority and the starting lineup is the most veteran group.

I think waiting for the TV timeout to make his first Sub can sometimes put the team in a deficit if the other team comes out with hot shooting or if Cmac at PF is in a bad matchup because the other team is not playing small ball.

The starting lineup with Cmac at the PF spot gets abused defensively at times. That was the lineup that got lit up in OT vs Minnesota. It was lineup that got down 10pts at Maryland. They don't play good defense because they are small inside with CMac at PF and easy to shoot over in the lane/get offensive rebound put backs. They are not that long/quick so easy to shoot over them at 3pt line. I don't think you have to start Keegan, but waiting for the 1st TV timeout to sub him in can at times get dangerous if other team comes out with hot shooting so I think Fran needs to be quicker to go to the bench.

Keegan was playing 10 minutes/game to start the season and Connor was playing over 30. Keegan should be playing 20-25 minutes per game unless he gets in foul trouble. CMac can
play positions 1-4, so more Keegan doesn't have to mean Connor can't play 25 minutes.

Cherry picking a couple of games seems legit. A couple of things you forgot to mention were: The starting lineup was the lineup that hung with Gonzaga to start the game. For the Maryland game, Connor remained in the game and was part of the comeback as the rest of the starters sat. The Hawks were up two by the first time Connor went to the bench.

To start the season Connor was playing over 30 minutes? Completely untrue. Connor has played over 30 minutes exactly one game this season. It just happened to be an OT game which he played 34, so had the game ended in regulation, he’d have zero games over 30 minutes. Connor’s next highest minute total is 26 minutes (twice Southern/@Maryland). Connor is averaging 22 mpg on the season and 21.9 in B1G play. Pretty much right where he should be, but in no way playing 30 minutes a game.
 
I Flove Keegan Murray, but you all are seriously discounting Connor too quickly & easily.

His passing and post-feeding is what helps Garza look as good as he does.


When its humming, the starting 5 can be an NBA-level offense in terms of point production. No joke.

Then you bring in a guy like KM, who can add energy and production as well??
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I would go with this, but it may be challenging:

1-Garza
2-Garza
3-Garza
4-Garza
5-Garza
 
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