#FireFran!

[HawkBall23]

Nothing against the man himself, but his time as Iowa coach should be over after the next 3 losses.

Losing the same way, every time, is no way to go through life man.

Call it curtains. Please. For the love of God.

 

[QChawks]

 

[shrinkhawk]

Probably good to have a scotch with, banter and tell war stories.

Simply not a good in-game coach.

Never _really connected with Iowa fans.

Agree with OP...it is time for a change.

 

[IllQChawk]

Probably good to have a scotch with, banter and tell war stories.

Simply not a good in-game coach.

Never _really connected with Iowa fans.

Agree with OP...it is time for a change.

Or the students.....

 

[HawkLogic]

I hope he's fired. Next year is going to be Brutal playing Fran Ball and who knows what we'll have left on the roster after spring Portal.

Another year of a lame duck coach that is only trying to get his paycheck and really only wants to be watching his boy Jack play is going to be tough. Carver might only average 3000 fans next year.

 

[jwardelt]

I can’t believe you’ve stuck with him this long…

 

[RocknRollface]

I can’t believe you’ve stuck with him this long…

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

 

[nu2u]

I was indifferent until I watched him play his sons extended minutes over better players. I mean, Patrick was the laziest player to ever wear a Hawkeye jersey.

 

[HawkBall23]

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

Its actually worse than that.

Keegan might not have been the best player in the country his sophomore year, but he was definitely up there on the list.

 

[tweeterhawk]

I can’t believe you’ve stuck with him this long…

Most Iowa fans at this point can’t, either.

 

[83Hawk]

Iowa lost…..fire Fran.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

This is 100% accurate. There was very little reason to keep him after the Richmond fiasco and even less after Kris Murray left. Thank heavens we don’t have a total dipsh*t for an A.D. anymore, so there will be some excitement/hope surrounding the MBB program again with the new hire in the next 1-2 months.

 

[RocknRollface]

This is 100% accurate. There was very little reason to keep him after the Richmond fiasco and even less after Kris Murray left. Thank heavens we don’t have a total dipsh*t for an A.D. anymore, so there will be some excitement/hope surrounding the MBB program again with the new hire in the next 1-2 months.

We'll see.

 

[jwardelt]

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

I’m afraid Gard is doing the same thing. He really needs a Sweet 16 this year.

 

[tweeterhawk]

Iowa lost…..fire Fran.

Body of work, my friend.

 

[danny14]

I’m afraid Gard is doing the same thing. He really needs a Sweet 16 this year.

Gard has had a lot of success at Wisconsin...7 tournament appearances out of ten and an NIT final. Several sweet 16 years, quite a bit better than the Hawks.

 

[ichawk24]

Keegan might not have been the best player in the country his sophomore year, but he was definitely up there on the list.

Win Shares

1.	Keegan Murray Iowa	8.7
2.	Oscar Tshiebwe Kentucky	8.0
3.	Malachi Smith Chattanooga	7.5
4.	Orlando Robinson Fresno State	7.4
5.	Armando Bacot UNC	7.1
6.	Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana	6.8
7.	Justin Bean Utah State	6.7
8.	K.J. Williams Murray State	6.7
9.	Darius McGhee Liberty	6.6
10.	Collin Gillespie Villanova	6.

Offensive Win Shares

1.	Keegan Murray Iowa	6.6
2.	Malachi Smith Chattanooga	5.2
3.	Oscar Tshiebwe Kentucky	4.9
4.	Collin Gillespie Villanova	4.8
5.	Jake Stephens VMI	4.7
6.	Baylor Scheierman South Dakota State	4.7
7.	Sukhmail Mathon Boston University	4.7
8.	E.J. Liddell Ohio State	4.6
9.	JT Shumate Toledo	4.6
10.	Tanner Holden Wright State	4.6

 

[HawkBall23]

Win Shares

1.	Keegan Murray Iowa	8.7
2.	Oscar Tshiebwe Kentucky	8.0
3.	Malachi Smith Chattanooga	7.5
4.	Orlando Robinson Fresno State	7.4
5.	Armando Bacot UNC	7.1
6.	Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana	6.8
7.	Justin Bean Utah State	6.7
8.	K.J. Williams Murray State	6.7
9.	Darius McGhee Liberty	6.6
10.	Collin Gillespie Villanova	6.

Offensive Win Shares

1.	Keegan Murray Iowa	6.6
2.	Malachi Smith Chattanooga	5.2
3.	Oscar Tshiebwe Kentucky	4.9
4.	Collin Gillespie Villanova	4.8
5.	Jake Stephens VMI	4.7
6.	Baylor Scheierman South Dakota State	4.7
7.	Sukhmail Mathon Boston University	4.7
8.	E.J. Liddell Ohio State	4.6
9.	JT Shumate Toledo	4.6
10.	Tanner Holden Wright State	4.6

Stats don't lie, but I was actually going by how he was seen (or not seen) by the national media that season.

He was obviously a known quantity and got some street cred, but I don't remember him being mentioned by most talking heads as the best overall player.

 

[tweeterhawk]

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

This has been one of my main criticisms of Fran. He managed — through luck or whatever — to get a few of the best players in college basketball but was never able to build a supporting cast. Luka, the Murray boys, Dev Marble, often were left to compete by themselves. Opponents were able to target them and didn’t have to worry about the rest of the team. How much better could the Iowa program have been with a complementing lineup?

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Gard has had a lot of success at Wisconsin...7 tournament appearances out of ten and an NIT final. Several sweet 16 years, quite a bit better than the Hawks.

Yea.... Gard is in a different stratosphere than Fran.

NOT EVEN CLOSE

 

[HawkBall23]

Getting frikking punk'd by NW, who's two best players are down for the year.

What more proof do you need, BG!?!?

 

[Legs94]

Not making the Big 10 tournament in year 15 = automatic termination. Especially with 0 sweet 16s anywhere ever

 

[QChawks]

Bump

 

[HawkBall23]

Dear Fran,

 

[Cougar_80]

You’re Fired !!!!

 

[BirdistheWord]

This has been one of my main criticisms of Fran. He managed — through luck or whatever — to get a few of the best players in college basketball but was never able to build a supporting cast. Luka, the Murray boys, Dev Marble, often were left to compete by themselves. Opponents were able to target them and didn’t have to worry about the rest of the team. How much better could the Iowa program have been with a complementing lineup?

Weezy too (one of best in B1G)

 

[Macbride79]

Given that Fran’s buyout goes down on April 1 (no fooling), I can see 1.4 million reasons why Beth would not fire Fran on March 10, but wait until 4/1.

While not ideal, this could work as long as she is talking behind the scenes to her top candidates (once their respective teams seasons are over).

 

[jwardelt]

Gard has had a lot of success at Wisconsin...7 tournament appearances out of ten and an NIT final. Several sweet 16 years, quite a bit better than the Hawks.

He had 2 Sweet 16’s….more than 7 years ago. I think we’ve won 2 tourney games in the last 7 years.

 

[cm8124]

 

[RocknRollface]

This has been one of my main criticisms of Fran. He managed — through luck or whatever — to get a few of the best players in college basketball but was never able to build a supporting cast. Luka, the Murray boys, Dev Marble, often were left to compete by themselves. Opponents were able to target them and didn’t have to worry about the rest of the team. How much better could the Iowa program have been with a complementing lineup?

It's actually worse than that imo.

He had Garza, Joe Weiskamp and both Murrays on one team and still managed to accomplish basically nothing.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Given that Fran’s buyout goes down on April 1 (no fooling), I can see 1.4 million reasons why Beth would not fire Fran on March 10, but wait until 4/1.

While not ideal, this could work as long as she is talking behind the scenes to her top candidates (once their respective teams seasons are over).

I can't believe I keep reading this stupid sh*t.

Do you realize that BG could announce TODAY that Fran is terminated effective 4/1 and start interviewing coaches tomorrow?

 

[SVRHawkeye]

I’m sure that after 50 plus years of near total irrelevance, our beloved Hawks will just routinely jump to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16 with some mid-major level coach. It’s not Fran, it’s the U of I. But go ahead and fire him just for the fun of it, or to get your feelings uplifted. That’s society today.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I can't believe I keep reading this stupid sh*t.

Do you realize that BG could announce TODAY that Fran is terminated effective 4/1 and start interviewing coaches tomorrow?

True. She didn't wait until season's end to announce that Brian Ferentz was done at the end of the year. Could do the same with Fran. I know some people are insisting that he's done, but I'm not totally convinced.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I’m sure that after 50 plus years of near total irrelevance, our beloved Hawks will just routinely jump to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16 with some mid-major level coach. It’s not Fran, it’s the U of I. But go ahead and fire him just for the fun of it, or to get your feelings uplifted. That’s society today.

LOL, ISU didn't seem to have an issue with suddenly getting to Sweet 16s with regularity. Was that program historically any more relevant than Iowa?

How about Wisconsin with Bo Ryan?

Fran has to go.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Fran peaked with the Woodbury years and they underachieved. This year or next he is gone.

 

[nu2u]

I’m sure that after 50 plus years of near total irrelevance, our beloved Hawks will just routinely jump to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16 with some mid-major level coach. It’s not Fran, it’s the U of I. But go ahead and fire him just for the fun of it, or to get your feelings uplifted. That’s society today.

“….routinely jump to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16”

I’m willing to give the next coach a reasonable amount of time to show up ….. something less than 15 fvcking years….. 4/5 years seems reasonable.

Routinely making the Sweet16 - every year - is not a legitimate expectation in any event. A multiple decades absence is an abject failure. Iowa should expect at least occasional appearances past the 2nd Round.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

He lucked into Garza and Murray right around the time he probably should have been leaving.

Then after doing nothing with the best player in the country two years in a row he should have been let go.

100% correct. When he recruited two legacy Brothers that no one and I mean no one wanted…..I think most thought he was done for sure! It really is incredible that both brothers are playing in the NBA….not to mention they are great/humble kids…

 

[denmar81]

True. She didn't wait until season's end to announce that Brian Ferentz was done at the end of the year. Could do the same with Fran. I know some people are insisting that he's done, but I'm not totally convinced.

If Beth doesn’t fire Fran after years of subpar results and terrible attendance then she isn’t the AD Iowa needs. We had that with Barta

 

[HawkBall23]

I’m sure that after 50 plus years of near total irrelevance, our beloved Hawks will just routinely jump to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16 with some mid-major level coach. It’s not Fran, it’s the U of I Gary Barta. But go ahead and fire him just for the fun of it, or to get your feelings uplifted. That’s society today.

Actually, its both.

Even so, to think that 15 years and only 1 BTT title & no NCAA Tournament success whatsoever, to show for all that time isn't worth making a move on replacing him is ...

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Insert Gatens as interim the last two games, send a message to the fans and others that Iowa means business and won’t tolerate this crap from someone leading a revenue generating sport.

Fran doesn’t deserve a farewell game at Carver. And I honestly doubt he even cares if he has one.