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Flat tax is going to pass in both Iowa House and Senate

I'm a tard because I believe in an equitable tax system? Okay. You don't see lower or middle class folks getting TIF or other state funding like the corporations and top 1%
TIF is redirecting local funds, while hopefully expanding the tax base. Lower or middle class usually aren't included in that.
 
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I know of several former MN co-workers that are retiring to Iowa, principally for lower estate taxes.
Really because I have tons of friends and family that live in Minnesota and are huge magats and bitch about taxes. When asked about moving to Iowa they laugh.
 
Minnesota is expected to have a $616 million surplus in the next two-year budget, state officials said Wednesday, but there is a looming $5,000 million deficit in future years — teeing up a debate in the legislature about how to rein in spending to stave off that projected shortfall.

That surplus for the next biennium, which covers fiscal years 2026 and 2027, shrunk by $1,100 million compared to what officials anticipated at the end of this year's legislative session. There is an anticipated structural imbalance — spending exceeding revenues — but a carryover balance blunted the impact and left some money on the bottom line for lawmakers when they put together the next budget when they return in January.

But in fiscal years 2028 and 2029, if the state keeps at this pace, it will see that deficit. Costs for special education and disability services are two drivers of increased spending, the forecast showed.

 
Then take that number whiskey….tge rich folks have the money….take 5% off the top from every one….hell, take 3.5% off the top from everyone… but the rich will complain about “all the taxes” they have to pay.
Why? You know m, clearly you know, the # of farmers that are sitting in so much cash they don’t know what to do with it. Should they voluntarily give 35%❓. Peope are such ****ing hypocrites and have zero idea.
 
It's not spending, it's both. If you are going to spend a certain amount, you need to raise a certain amount of money. Now, your solution can involve cutting the amount you spend, for sure, but that doesn't mean that is the only problem. The problem is, there isn't enough money coming in to pay for the spending obligations that exist. The other problem is, they stole from the pension fund and never put the money back which is what has caused the shortage in the first place. So when people like you say, "Cut their pensions!!!" You are are doing the same thing as intentionally burning someone's house down and then demanding that they pay to fix their house because you don't want to look at a burned out building on your street.

It amazes me people still say things like "fiscally conservative". Conservatives haven't been fiscally responsible in multiple decades. Having to explain this to a dumb F like @hawkedoff just continues to prove that point
 
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Why? You know m, clearly you know, the # of farmers that are sitting in so much cash they don’t know what to do with it. Should they voluntarily give 35%❓. Peope are such ****ing hypocrites and have zero idea.

You really sold it with the big red question mark. Nice job!!
 
They closed the School in Hills because of money, yet we got a new quarter of a million dollar Songbird Sanctuary to go with our quarter million dollar downtown " pervious pavers ". Yeah, I know they were likely from different " bags of money " yet in the end they are all taxpayer funded in some way. If a town of 900 can waste 1/2 million dollars on shit like this then multiply it across the state and you'll quickly know why our roads/bridges and schools are under funded. Priorities...
You answered why the school in Hills is being closed in your own post. A town of under 1000 can't support an elementary school that was built 50+ years ago. Hills has no upward population growth, and there aren't the number of farm kids these days to bus in. When you convince one of those landowners on the outskirts of Hills to sell their land for subdivisions then there will be a reason for a school in Hills. And, not the river side. The good land that doesn't flood.
 
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I know of several former MN co-workers that are retiring to Iowa, principally for lower estate taxes.
Then you know a lot of poors or you're making an anecdotal statement unsupported by data. People are not moving to Iowa. I like a lot of stuff about Iowa, but we won't retire here. There are not the amenities that we want in life.
 
You answered why the school in Hills is being closed in your own post. A town of under 1000 can't support an elementary school that was built 50+ years ago. Hills has no upward population growth, and there aren't the number of farm kids these days to bus in. When you convince one of those landowners on the outskirts of Hills to sell their land for subdivisions then there will be a reason for a school in Hills. And, not the river side. The good land that doesn't flood.
I've not read the newsletter the Mayor sent out, but he is not a happy camper. Apparently the plan by ICCSD was to sell to Hills, but now they might want to tear the old school down and build a new one. Because, Hills as a community is growing and they need to expand the size of the school? Is that the gist of it?
 
Then you know a lot of poors or you're making an anecdotal statement unsupported by data. People are not moving to Iowa. I like a lot of stuff about Iowa, but we won't retire here. There are not the amenities that we want in life.
As long as I can stay in DSM area, I will stay here… but I’ll be long gone come winter time! Winters in Iiway absolutely suck!
 
Well let’s not look at Iowas current cluster of a school system. A total lack of leadership by Reynolds that will cost much more than they ever stated or planned for.
Could be…fortunately my kids are out of school.
 
Really because I have tons of friends and family that live in Minnesota and are huge magats and bitch about taxes. When asked about moving to Iowa they laugh.
Good for you. I just laugh back at my MN friends & relatives who bitch about their high taxes, liberal politics, and frigid temps.
 
Then you know a lot of poors or you're making an anecdotal statement unsupported by data. People are not moving to Iowa. I like a lot of stuff about Iowa, but we won't retire here. There are not the amenities that we want in life.
No, who I know are some conservative people that lived the Minneapolis metro who got fed up with rising crime, increasing volume of illegal aliens, and high taxes. They simply wanted to retire in a safer area, with lower taxes, and not a liberal around every corner. 😉
 
Minnesota is expected to have a $616 million surplus in the next two-year budget, state officials said Wednesday, but there is a looming $5,000 million deficit in future years — teeing up a debate in the legislature about how to rein in spending to stave off that projected shortfall.

That surplus for the next biennium, which covers fiscal years 2026 and 2027, shrunk by $1,100 million compared to what officials anticipated at the end of this year's legislative session. There is an anticipated structural imbalance — spending exceeding revenues — but a carryover balance blunted the impact and left some money on the bottom line for lawmakers when they put together the next budget when they return in January.

But in fiscal years 2028 and 2029, if the state keeps at this pace, it will see that deficit. Costs for special education and disability services are two drivers of increased spending, the forecast showed.
Iowa is on pace for a similar situation.
 
First half true. Second half, bullshit. I know what I'm talking about. As a school board member I constantly had to remind city council the effects of their TIF decisions.
The school board/district is formally invited to comment on every TIF project before a council votes on a specific project's financing.
This gives them a chance to provide input to the council to guide decision making.

In my local area this never happens.
 
The school board/district is formally invited to comment on every TIF project before a council votes on a specific project's financing.
This gives them a chance to provide input to the council to guide decision making.

In my local area this never happens.

I had to call the Mayor after hours one night. He was so fvcking belligerent. I explained to him that the school district had the largest budget in the county and him making choices only to help the town were shortsighted. Nobody is going to move your town if your schools turn shitty.
 
I had to call the Mayor after hours one night. He was so fvcking belligerent. I explained to him that the school district had the largest budget in the county and him making choices only to help the town were shortsighted. Nobody is going to move your town if your schools turn shitty.
Why?
 

Because he was making baseless accusation against the School Board/District in the paper and radio and I was trying defuse a situation.
He backed down. Unlike his position, mine was pro bono, and I was a steward of the public's tax money. So I wasn't going to let it fly. CSB
 
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I had to call the Mayor after hours one night. He was so fvcking belligerent. I explained to him that the school district had the largest budget in the county and him making choices only to help the town were shortsighted. Nobody is going to move your town if your schools turn shitty.
True but no one is going to move to your town if there aren't jobs, businesses to frequent and entertainment and recreational opportunities either.

The key is making sure:
1- That the business, but for TIF financing, would not be able to be built. (though this isn't law in Iowa)
2- The business is one that the community at large will benefit from in a big way. Cities financing a sewing supplies business, for example, would be a silly use of TIF funds.

TIF is a great tool but like any tool it has to be used carefully.
 
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It amazes me people still say things like "fiscally conservative". Conservatives haven't been fiscally responsible in multiple decades. Having to explain this to a dumb F like @hawkedoff just continues to prove that point
You sound super smart. Show me where I said fiscally conservative. Public pensions and spending on social programs are why states and municipalities go broke. The left tends to spend more on those types of things at the state level. Sorry your ass is chapped over the truth.
 
True but no one is going to move to your town if there aren't jobs, businesses to frequent and entertainment and recreational opportunities either.

The key is making sure:
1- That the business, but for TIF financing, would not be able to be built. (though this isn't law in Iowa)
2- The business is one that the community at large will benefit from in a big way. Cities financing a sewing supplies business, for example, would be a silly use of TIF funds.

TIF is a great tool but like any tool it has to be used carefully.

See.....we can can agree on something
 
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