Former/Current Players & Media members stick up for Fran
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too many people are hating Fran McCaffery and sticking up for the ref who was cheating, imo
The officiating has been exceptionally bad and we definitely got the brunt of it against OSU and MD. Lots of missed/no calls.
How was the ref “cheating”?
I watched the game and I certainly did not see any ref cheating. Every time Iowa losses many of the passionate fans on this board want to blame the refs, sometimes it is just the players playing poorly and coaches coaching poorly. Every foul called on Connor was a foul and were good calls by the ref.
Because he made calls that went against Iowa. That constitutes cheating, don't you know.
I don't think it was cheating.
I do think that the technicals were really poor officiating. I would argue that handing out Ts is often (not always) a sign of lack of confidence. I think Connor had a legitimate gripe on that call. He got caught by a forearm or elbow. A good official can allow the player to gripe and give an explanation of what they saw. Most of the time this will difuse the situation. In any case Connor was walking away, I think a good official has thick enough skin to let it go.
Fran chasing the official down the hall and screaming is also stupid. I don't have a problem with him trying to have a conversation or asking for some explanation but if you can't do it calmly then you're better off cooling off and going through the league office.
We bitched when Lick showed no passion and simply buried his head into his hands.
Granted, Fran sometimes goes a little overboard, but he does not lack passion for his team and his players.
Granted, Fran sometimes goes a little overboard, but he does not lack passion for his team and his players.
The only foul called on Connor I may disagree with you on is the technical foul called on Connor. I realize Bardo said it was a “good” call and that you can’t “wave off” an official. I disagree. I’m sure he had some words for the official but once he turned his back with a little wave off shows “he’s done”. This happens numerous times a game with coaches and players. LOTS of T’s are gonna get called every time a player gives a little wave off, turns his back, and runs down court. When I was a coach this is what irritated me the most. You question the official/ref/umpire, wave them off and start walking away but THEY are the one that’s not “done”. I have to rewatch but looked to me like Connor was done and was in the FT box with back to official. Maybe he was still shouting some “disproval” that would have made a T appropriate.
Kedrick Prince is the ILLINI Rivals guy. He is the @TomKakert equivalent, I believe.
You would think he would bash an Iowa head coach, right?
Well, see for yourself his thoughts below.
You would think he would bash an Iowa head coach, right?
Well, see for yourself his thoughts below.
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What is funny is that every DI coach has passion and is uber competitive. I would say 90% will back up their players as well. Some have a more refined way of showing it.
Ex - Bill Self gets technicals all of the time, but his are calculated and arent detrimental to his team.
Even if that ref was terrible at this job that night or otherwise, how does it help the situation to unload on him after the game?
Ex - Bill Self gets technicals all of the time, but his are calculated and arent detrimental to his team.
Even if that ref was terrible at this job that night or otherwise, how does it help the situation to unload on him after the game?
Lots of people saying they have heard worse.
Exactly what is worse than getting in a guys face and calling him a “mother f’er”?
I am saying that defense is B.S.
Exactly what is worse than getting in a guys face and calling him a “mother f’er”?
I am saying that defense is B.S.
Like he said, he wasn’t thinking and let his emotions take control. If they are both professionals the next time they are on the court the interaction should play no part. When I coached college baseball I completely lost it with an umpire getting run from the game. The very next day had to take the field with that umpire and we both just knew to move on like nothing happened the day before.
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Oh heard MUCH worse. I told a ref he better go find his wife because half my team was missing.
Not many are angry at the tech fouls and the cursing out of the ref after the game...it’s more about the lack of in-game adjustments and resulting final score.
This team has been sleepwalking thru its last four games and has gotten lucky to win a couple of them. They definitely aren’t hitting on all cylinders and it appears Fran hasnt shaken them out of their malaise.
If they lose the next one, this board and social media is going to explode...and rightfully so.
This team has been sleepwalking thru its last four games and has gotten lucky to win a couple of them. They definitely aren’t hitting on all cylinders and it appears Fran hasnt shaken them out of their malaise.
If they lose the next one, this board and social media is going to explode...and rightfully so.
ehhhh the call on Conner was questionable; it should have at least been reviewed, he is allowed to be in that space.
What Fran allegedly said regarding cheating was wrong. Anyone trying to defend it is a dope.
Using profanity is pretty commonplace in CBB among coaches. Saying an official is a cheater is another thing altogether. Is McJunkins incompetent, biased, or even an outright cheater? Possibly yes to all 3. But one has to be very careful throwing around accusations without outright proof. It’s pretty irresponsible whether we are talking about sports, politics, sexual assault claims etc.
It's great to hear that current/former players believe Fran has their backs 100%.
I'm also pretty sure there are thousands of current/former players who also think their own coach has/had their back 100% and aren't having to/didn't have to answer questions on why their coach was suspended after yelling "you cheating mother****er, you're a ****ing disgrace".
Fran is an embarrassment to the program.
I'm also pretty sure there are thousands of current/former players who also think their own coach has/had their back 100% and aren't having to/didn't have to answer questions on why their coach was suspended after yelling "you cheating mother****er, you're a ****ing disgrace".
Fran is an embarrassment to the program.
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You’re offended and embarrassed and I’m “not that big of a deal” and even chuckle at it. That’s why I am a much happier person than you!
No chasing. Both refs and Fran were walking to their locker rooms, when Fran yelled.
Nah, I keep a pretty level head when it comes to a game played by 18-23 year olds. I tend not to kick scores tables, slam chairs, and chase after officials post-game calling them "cheating mother****ers". That's someone who doesn't live a very happy life.
Where's Mike Wilbon's reaction defending Fran?
Figured he'd be the first one to lend his support.......
He did reach, and would have been assessed the foul even if it was reviewed for a flagrant one for excessive contact above the shoulders. On the replay, the OSU player raised his shoulder and drove it through Connor's jaw. I'm not sure it was worthy of a flagrant one, but it was worth reviewing, and to not go to the monitor and also call a technical on Connor is pretty petty. Unless Connor used a magic word, that technical was unwarranted.
Similarly, Fran had just watched Baer get called for two pretty light fouls contesting shots on the other end, and when he shoots and clearly gets hit on the arm during the release, there is no call. We were down 15 with like 3 minutes to go at that point, so I'd say that technical probably doesn't hurt us, so I'm not holding that one against Fran.
He still shouldn't have confronted the ref after the game, and frankly, I'm disappointed that the staff didn't do a better job of getting him into the locker room, since he had already been T'd up in the game, get our guys together, let everyone cool down and then we move on.
If what Connor did was a foul, then the refs doing Iowa games for the last 6-7 contests have done a really f***ing poor job of establishing what contact is and is not a foul.
Sorry, but the foul procedeing the T called on Connor was bull. The only thing he touched the guy with was his face to the OSU players forearm. If anything it should have been reviewed as a possible flagrant foul on the OSU player. Not condoning the other actions, just saying that was a ridiculous call.
I agree Iowa played poorly and coaches coached just as bad. ALL of CM’s fouls were legit calls, I’ll agree with that. Even though you almost never see the illegal screen (after the handoff) called. It happens in almost every game without a call. I’m good with the call.
Connor shouldn’t dismiss the ref the way he did, but a coach shouldn’t be able to yell “that’s a bull sh call” repeatedly either correct?
If you watched that game and didn’t see any biases, I don’t believe there’s hope for you. Iowa has an OSU player trapped in front of their bench. The OSU player lowers his shoulder and clears Cook out at least two feet. Then throws a cross court pass where OSU shoots a three. The OSU player lands and falls down. They call a foul on Moss.
The sequence leading up to Fran’s T:
OSU shoots and misses. Ahrens runs from the three point line and jumps on Cooks back (in front of McJunkins). Cook rebounds and outlets. JBo gives the ball to Wieskamp who dribbled left. Wieskamp is tripped by an extended knee from Wesson. Wieskamp on the ground gives the ball up to JBo and JBo shoots. Ahrens shoves Wieskamp in the back (three feet from McJunkins) but the ball bounced to Baer. Baer puts it back up and gets clobbered (again in front of McJunkins). Not a foul called in any of this.
How can one ref can miss so many obvious calls?
.Frankly I get tired of hearing Fran and others talk about fighting for his players. If Fran wants to fight for his players do it through recruiting, coaching, and player development NOT by chasing refs down a hallway screaming profanities. Be a man and get your two T's during the game and get tossed. That is acceptable behavior for coaches of teams getting taken to the wood shed who need to blow their top.
Full disclosure, I hurled a few profanities at my TV set in the second half watching a lethargic Iowa offense toil in mediocrity. Bohannon wore an OSU defender like a base layer the entire game and Cook was double-teamed. How can two guys get this much attention and yet the other 3 can't get open looks? It defies logic how Fran can watch that play out for 40 minutes and do nothing. Add to this Dailey and Kriener clearly brought their "A" games but Garza and Moss soaked up playing time. Throw in the "Don't Guard the Hot Shooter" defense the team played and I was ready to get ejected from my living room.
Full disclosure, I hurled a few profanities at my TV set in the second half watching a lethargic Iowa offense toil in mediocrity. Bohannon wore an OSU defender like a base layer the entire game and Cook was double-teamed. How can two guys get this much attention and yet the other 3 can't get open looks? It defies logic how Fran can watch that play out for 40 minutes and do nothing. Add to this Dailey and Kriener clearly brought their "A" games but Garza and Moss soaked up playing time. Throw in the "Don't Guard the Hot Shooter" defense the team played and I was ready to get ejected from my living room.
