Exactly. Which is not remotely what the subject line claims.Originally posted by Nat Algren:
At 3:35 he answers: "In the Ukraine, the only way that the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags."
"Leading from behind" is a phrase the Obama White House invented to describe its policy in Libya.Originally posted by joelbc1:
I did see where the tow FOXers laughed at the end...something about "leading from behind"...A quaint phrase FOX folks use often.......And something that Dems only do......I guess.
I don't understand why FOX doesn't form a brigade of volunteers and with all their military officers (ex) and experts, why they just don't go over there and clean upo the mess....They seem to have THE answer........but they won't share it with "we the people".........But I am sure they know what is right, with all their military connections....
Did you and Lone Clone miss the part when he says "sadly that's not going to happen"?Originally posted by dandh:
Precisely. He says "only way...can". Not must, not should.
The inability of some people to understand the English language never ceases to amaze me.
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
"Quibbling." Absolutely hilarious.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
I'm not sure how you see this as a win. You just admitted the analyst thinks Russians need to die and we should help make that happen. Thats barley a hairs breath aways from what the OP said. You must be a lawyer. "I didn't murder the guy, I just ordered, funded, and supplied the gun and get away car for the hit." I suppose that's technically different, but consequentially the same.Originally posted by dandh:
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
You also should note that Nate (your alter ego?) said 'WE must" start killing Russians, not that we should help Ukraine.
Parse and a miss, good buddy.
Hair's breadth, Natural, hair's breadth.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm not sure how you see this as a win. You just admitted the analyst thinks Russians need to die and we should help make that happen. Thats barley a hairs breath aways from what the OP said. You must be a lawyer. "I didn't murder the guy, I just ordered, funded, and supplied the gun and get away car for the hit." I suppose that's technically different, but consequentially the same.Originally posted by dandh:
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
You also should note that Nate (your alter ego?) said 'WE must" start killing Russians, not that we should help Ukraine.
Parse and a miss, good buddy.
Sad to see dandh reduced to playing the dictionary defense.Originally posted by dandh:
Hair's breadth, Natural, hair's breadth.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm not sure how you see this as a win. You just admitted the analyst thinks Russians need to die and we should help make that happen. Thats barley a hairs breath aways from what the OP said. You must be a lawyer. "I didn't murder the guy, I just ordered, funded, and supplied the gun and get away car for the hit." I suppose that's technically different, but consequentially the same.Originally posted by dandh:
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
You also should note that Nate (your alter ego?) said 'WE must" start killing Russians, not that we should help Ukraine.
Parse and a miss, good buddy.
I understand you don't want to get the difference, so I won't extend the argument about it. Just read the thread title again focus on that.
Huh? You're calling me out for engaging in the time-honored HROT custom of drawing attention to WOBs?Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Sad to see dandh reduced to playing the dictionary defense.Originally posted by dandh:
Hair's breadth, Natural, hair's breadth.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm not sure how you see this as a win. You just admitted the analyst thinks Russians need to die and we should help make that happen. Thats barley a hairs breath aways from what the OP said. You must be a lawyer. "I didn't murder the guy, I just ordered, funded, and supplied the gun and get away car for the hit." I suppose that's technically different, but consequentially the same.Originally posted by dandh:
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
You also should note that Nate (your alter ego?) said 'WE must" start killing Russians, not that we should help Ukraine.
Parse and a miss, good buddy.
I understand you don't want to get the difference, so I won't extend the argument about it. Just read the thread title again focus on that.
Dude is calling for us to kill Russians over Ukraine. Is the important thing which word Husker used or the call for killing Russians over Ukraine?
Originally posted by dandh:
Hair's breadth, Natural, hair's breadth.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm not sure how you see this as a win. You just admitted the analyst thinks Russians need to die and we should help make that happen. Thats barley a hairs breath aways from what the OP said. You must be a lawyer. "I didn't murder the guy, I just ordered, funded, and supplied the gun and get away car for the hit." I suppose that's technically different, but consequentially the same.Originally posted by dandh:
Well, it's a simple-minded syllogism, at least. The problem with it is that he isn't clearly saying we should kill Russians, he's saying we should have helped Ukraine with weapons and support so they could kill Russians. So, I agree that he thinks we should help Ukraine, but not by killing Russians with our troops.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Now you're just quibbling. He didn't say "must" but he is clearly saying that we "should" get in there and kill Russians. That's not a stretch. He's saying that's what it will take to help Ukraine. And he's saying we should help Ukraine. Put those 2 together and you have "we should kill Russians." It's a very simple syllogism.Originally posted by dandh:
It was rhetorical...he's just saying what he sees. Plus, he said that after saying the Ukrainians were toothless because we have given them no real help with weapons, etc., which means he was saying that Russians would no negative effects from their conquest of Ukraine (sadly, as he put it).
Any claim that he said we must kill Russians is a total misrepresentation, and just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 3/15 5:55 PM by dandh
If all you care about is whether Nat used "must" correctly in his subject line, well OK, but that's hardly the important point.
You also should note that Nate (your alter ego?) said 'WE must" start killing Russians, not that we should help Ukraine.
Parse and a miss, good buddy.
I understand you don't want to get the difference, so I won't extend the argument about it. Just read the thread title again focus on that.