Fran cooled his seat a bit this year, for sure.
However hasn't that been the story for many years, and isn't the coach responsible for how the team plays on both sides?
However hasn't that been the story for many years, and isn't the coach responsible for how the team plays on both sides?
I think Fran has done a good job this year in a lot of ways but D is inadequate almost every year. Who do we put that on if it's not on Fran? Not to pile on #10 but he deserves an assist if people insist on using the F word for how things are going
Still think we can have a solid postseason and maybe sweet 16
Garza having a monster year has put this team into the NCAA. CJ has been a pleasant surprise. Weiskamp having a rough end to the season and his inconsistent play this season leaves you wondering how much he really advanced his game. JBO was a tough loss offensively but defensively he is a downgrade from our guard rotation this year.
Without Garza's monster year this team would be down around where Indiana and Purdue are. If he leaves after this year even with JBO coming back there is a lot that needs to happen for Iowa to have this type of season again. Does Weiskamp advance his game? Does CJ become a more consistent scorer? Where exactly are Nunge and Patrick at in regards to B1G level basketball? Can this team improve at all defensively? Can Connor and Joe improve enough offensively or will Iowa continue to have offensive holes in every lineup with shooters that are limited in their all-around games?
I still question if Fran can get the most out of his players and his teams. Late season struggles are a trend with him. He deserves some credit with Garza but Garza also developed his game and worked his butt off a lot on his own. Garza delivered this team this year. Weiskamp hasn't developed enough yet to be the #1 guy and he fell apart late this year at being a strong #2 that helps a team finish off a great regular season. Him falling a part this year is a huge reason why Iowa missed out on every golden opportunity to finish top 4 or even on top of the B1G. Maryland, Penn St and Iowa fell apart Wisconsin and MSU stepped up.
Without Garza's monster year this team would be down around where Indiana and Purdue are. If he leaves after this year even with JBO coming back there is a lot that needs to happen for Iowa to have this type of season again. Does Weiskamp advance his game? Does CJ become a more consistent scorer? Where exactly are Nunge and Patrick at in regards to B1G level basketball? Can this team improve at all defensively? Can Connor and Joe improve enough offensively or will Iowa continue to have offensive holes in every lineup with shooters that are limited in their all-around games?
I still question if Fran can get the most out of his players and his teams. Late season struggles are a trend with him. He deserves some credit with Garza but Garza also developed his game and worked his butt off a lot on his own. Garza delivered this team this year. Weiskamp hasn't developed enough yet to be the #1 guy and he fell apart late this year at being a strong #2 that helps a team finish off a great regular season. Him falling a part this year is a huge reason why Iowa missed out on every golden opportunity to finish top 4 or even on top of the B1G. Maryland, Penn St and Iowa fell apart Wisconsin and MSU stepped up.
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I was looking at Iowa's last 10 games every year under Fran to see what is to the "Fran fade" if anything at all.
2010-11 3-7
2011-12 5-5
2012-13 7-3
2013-14 3-7
2014-15 7-3
2015-16 3-7
2016-17 5-5
2017-18 3-7
2018-19 3-7
2019-20 5-5 so far this year
2010-11 3-7
2011-12 5-5
2012-13 7-3
2013-14 3-7
2014-15 7-3
2015-16 3-7
2016-17 5-5
2017-18 3-7
2018-19 3-7
2019-20 5-5 so far this year
get over it. Unless we recruit like a top ten team we do not have the talent to score like we do while also playing great defense. Additionally, I would argue that our style and tempo would make it nearly impossible even if we were stocked with Top 50 kids.
there is a finite amount you can squeeze out of every set of players and Fran is absolutely doing that.
Sorry, I'll never accept crap D and rebounding. Ever. It's why Fran hasn't accomplished hardly anything in March in a decade. Being good on one side of the ball isn't good enough. But glad you are entertained by all the scoring ... enjoy
Last 10 games is too long. That's half the Big 10 season. Last 6 of regular season puts us Feb/Mar time frame when folks complain about the fade.
2010-11 1-5
2011-12 3-3
2012-13 4-2
2013-14 1-5
2014-15 6-0
2015-16 2-4
2016-17 4-2
2017-18 1-5
2018-19 1-5
2019-20 3-3
Overall: 26-34 .433
7 out of 10 years Fran's teams have been .500 or less in the last 6 games. Not a very good showing. This team has certainly been fun to watch and folks have to know this was not what we even expected was to be solidly in the tournament no matter what happens in the Big 10 tourney. Our body of work is really good. We've beaten good teams and had some really tough losses on the road. Purdue owns us and Painter knows how to make Fran's teams pay from the poor defense and discipline we have. Offensive rebounding has been a huge problem here recently. With an already bad defense, we've given teams second and third chances way too much. JW is not putting in a lot of effort on defense right now either and we need him for weak side rebounds in zone.
Amen .... it’s tiresome year after year after year some of us middle aged men in there mid to late 40’s can’t remember the last BTC they won.. I am sick of the way he finishes as well but I can’t put the blame on him - he’s got Iowa back up there competing but the injuries etc is old news ... saying we aren’t That good might sound better or “not very deep” injuries do play a part but it’s the same song or tune every year for excuses
But there's always an excuse - This guy was injured or that guy left early or this or that...
I like Fran and his intensity but the program isn't accomplishing much of anything.
Michigan St, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio St...all had players lost to injury/other as well. It's not just an Iowa thing.
A good season, but still feels like they came up short. (2 losses to Purdue and 1 to last place Nebraska helped). Change a couple of those outcomes and it looks better.
That narrative can easily change. We could be celebrating a Sweet 16 a couple of Monday mornings from now. We'll see if they finish strong.
A good season, but still feels like they came up short. (2 losses to Purdue and 1 to last place Nebraska helped). Change a couple of those outcomes and it looks better.
That narrative can easily change. We could be celebrating a Sweet 16 a couple of Monday mornings from now. We'll see if they finish strong.
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I disagree. Lose Thursday and Iowa is looking at 8/9. Win and we get the 7.
You say “no chance” and I hope you’re right.....but how often does Iowa ever get the seed fans think they should? Most of the time it ends up being lower.
The way the Hawks have been playing lately.....8/9 is all they deserve.
I'm not sure on the Fran fade when you can change metrics from last 10 games to last 6 games............but one thing I don't understand from posters here is saying without Garza this team would be down at the bottom. Well, guess what, without Winston so would MSU or without Lamar Stevens PSU would be too. So it goes with all teams with big name players. Take the best player away and that's what you will get.
I agree. I can't speak for posters but I think the argument was that without the sudden and huge rise in Garza's game this year...this season could have looked drastically different bc there really hasn't been a consistent #2
My take and my concern the week before stating 8/9 seed clearly a possibility. Laughed at for saying it and here we are.
Yes, it's Fran's fault that Weiskamp when needed most has gone into a complete shell and can't throw the ball in the ocean. Whether you think Nunge has proved his worth is really a moot point, he was a starter at the beginning of the year and PMAC was sure to be getting plenty of minutes. The team has had 3 significant injuries not including the 7 or 8 games Fredrick has missed. The same people bitching about the fade are the ones that said we wouldn't win 10 games after the DePaul debacle. Get a grip or find a new hobby.
It never ceases to amazing how astonishingly stupid people can be with these posts.
WE just lost by 2 on the road to a top 25 team, that is being competitive you dolt.
Absolutely bizarre that in 10 years there's only been 3 different results, and they are symmetrical (3-7, 5-5, 7-3).
It's easy to point your fingers at McCaffery, but how about the players shouldering some of the blame. I know it's a long season, but in the last month, out two best shooters have shot at a 33% clip and a miserable 22% from three. At this point, McCaffery can only do the same as the rest of us when they get open shots....keep our fingers crossed.
Playing a top 25 team to two points isn't elite? Stop trying to mask your stupidity with one word. You are a bit** and a blamer just like the rest of these idiots that come on here anonymously after every loss and complain about the coaches and players. Wah wah wah, my team didn't play up to what my pizza eating fat A$$ expects sitting on my couch. Wah wah wah.
Lol. You're funny.
My comment is bigger than one game. Defense and rebounding are what's preventing this team from being elite. That's not a complaint. It's a statement of fact. Frankly, the fact anyone could speak of this team as having the potential to be elite is a compliment to this team. But okay.
Oh, and I'm one of the most level-headed posters on this board when it comes to wins and losses. I think you're too eager to climax throwing out puerile insults at the expense of sounding like an adult. Grow up, Jizz man.
Btw, I'm 6'5 240 and in pretty good shape for 38. Hbu, Jizzer?
I don't think you're wrong about the overall post, and I agree that it is always "this year doesn't apply because of excuse ABC or XYZ"...
but with regards to the red bold part, I'm not that upset with the accomplishments (more NCAA appearances than not, especially after reviving Iowa hoops from the dead) ... I am not a fan of Fran's demeanor at all, and nobody will be shocked by this comment, I know. I don't find him "intense", which is how I'd describe many coaches. I find Fran to be borderline out of control at times. Embarrassingly so in his darkest moments.
ding, ding, ding, ding! Although I’m Smh.. hopefully some of the newcomers next year will help.. Iowa’s current kids know how to defend, they just seem to struggle in the act of actually doing it..
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Got to win Thursday. Comeon Hawks!!
You are saying we aren't elite, meanwhile how many top 25 wins do we have? How many teams have more? Our schedule has been brutal, and we came away pretty dang good. The home Purdue game sucked, we all get that. What I hate, are guys like you, that predicted 13-16 wins, then come on here and bitch after getting 20, NCAA tourney, and a 5 seed in BTT. I wish someone could go find that thread with everyone's predictions, because it'd be the same people bashing the team, that predicted a crappy season.
Whoa. Slow down, Jizz man. I have never complained about this team's win/loss record. Not once. I have been proud of the team's overall effort this year and have been pleasantly surprised by this season. And I've said as much on here multiple times. So calm your tits.
Second, the post you responded to was me merely saying Iowa has the potential to be an elite team and if they want to be defense and rebounding have to improve. I'm guessing Fran and the Iowa players would agree with me.
Again, I am proud of this team. They have proven themselves to be a good team and have played almost flawlessly at home. Almost. All of that said, most people would not consider an 11-9 conference record elite. It's good in the B1G Ten, but it's not elite.
Calm your tits.
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