I agree we aren't there yet. But Brohm is quickening this process. I think not this season, but next we will be flirting with the top 25. Maybe that's a bit ambitious. Idk. I think the big ten west as a whole is catching Wisconsin fast. We should have beat them last year... And nebraska...
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I agree we aren't there yet. But Brohm is quickening this process. I think not this season, but next we will be flirting with the top 25. Maybe that's a bit ambitious. Idk. I think the big ten west as a whole is catching Wisconsin fast. We should have beat them last year... And nebraska...
Good luck! Minne and Illinois should have the basement locked down for a couple years, so you'll be jockeying for a better bowl game w Iowa and NWestern. See ya on Nov 3rd (a trap game if ever I saw one, second road game after Penn St away)
We will know a lot about our team quick. We could be 6-0 to start the year, but we could also be 3-3. Depends on how quick our defense grows up. Our recruiting will have us a little more solid in two years. Good luck to you as well! Still can't believe we won at Iowa last year. Not sure how that happened.
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Your right. A team that won 9 games in 4 years is garbage because they only won 7 in year one of a new head coach. Dang, that's a great pov.... I to think I was trying to have a nice conversation between two teams that seem to be recruiting the exact same players...
I saw him take a 9 win team and miss a bowl. So fleck hasn't proven anything to me yet. His year zero crap would have ticked me off as a fan.
I heard it was a new press box and reception/catillion area. Technically it's not in left field.
Are you thinking about the old Metrodome?
To Husker nation's credit, I was just out in Nebraksa because I'm getting ready to move their and the fans I met were super nice. As were the ones that traveled to Purdue this past year. They also spoke very highly of Jeff Brohm. One thing I learned while I was their is they think Frost is the best thing since sliced bread. His name was everywhere! Lol
TBH, the "Husker" that trolled you is very likely not a Husker at all. Just a troll trying to discredit.
The Twin Cities sports media is rich with cynical negative a-holes who think they're the smartest guy in the room. Would not want to be a college coach in this market.
So, in your opinion, signing kids who go to junior college is a "win at all costs" strategy?
I wouldnt define this as a "win at all cost" more like a "win now" but it does not lead itself to long term development.
If so, what is the "cost" in the strategy? Is there something wrong with kids who play at a junior college that makes them morally and ethically unsuitable to be anything other than a "win at all costs" option?
No, as stated it's a short term solution.
I'm hoping you explain that a little more. When I hear someone say, "win at all costs" what that means to me is that they're willing to sacrifice ethics or morals in order to do it.
With a first year coach this is probably more acceptable however you do need to evaluate the ethics of skipping over the guys who have been in the program for a few years.
In other words, compromising ethics and morals for the sake of winning would be the cost of winning. I believe that's what you were implying (and is what most people imply when they use the phrase relating to sports).
The same question applies to academic risks. Are you saying that recruiting kids who are academic risks or require an academic redshirt, but is allowed within the rules of the leagues and NCAA, is a moral and ethical compromise by Frost?
Yes, Yes I am. You have the lowest academic standards of anyone in the Big and your attempting to bring in guys who cant make it.
Is there something wrong with these kids as young adults that makes it so that one must compromise their ethics and morals in order to recruit them? No, but we pride ourselves on academics in the b10 there are plenty of places to play if you have the talent.
Your 3rd point, about "forced" attrition is speculation, and there have been zero reports of Frost running anyone off the team. So, you're really just throwing spaghetti at the wall with that one.
How many did you oversign in 18? How many guys have left the team in the last 4 months? Dudes telling guys to go other places. Take off your glasses.
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I wouldnt define this as a "win at all cost" more like a "win now" but it does not lead itself to long term development.
If so, what is the "cost" in the strategy? Is there something wrong with kids who play at a junior college that makes them morally and ethically unsuitable to be anything other than a "win at all costs" option?
No, as stated it's a short term solution.
I'm hoping you explain that a little more. When I hear someone say, "win at all costs" what that means to me is that they're willing to sacrifice ethics or morals in order to do it.
With a first year coach this is probably more acceptable however you do need to evaluate the ethics of skipping over the guys who have been in the program for a few years.
In other words, compromising ethics and morals for the sake of winning would be the cost of winning. I believe that's what you were implying (and is what most people imply when they use the phrase relating to sports).
The same question applies to academic risks. Are you saying that recruiting kids who are academic risks or require an academic redshirt, but is allowed within the rules of the leagues and NCAA, is a moral and ethical compromise by Frost?
Yes, Yes I am. You have the lowest academic standards of anyone in the Big and your attempting to bring in guys who cant make it.
Is there something wrong with these kids as young adults that makes it so that one must compromise their ethics and morals in order to recruit them? No, but we pride ourselves on academics in the b10 there are plenty of places to play if you have the talent.
Your 3rd point, about "forced" attrition is speculation, and there have been zero reports of Frost running anyone off the team. So, you're really just throwing spaghetti at the wall with that one.
How many did you oversign in 18? How many guys have left the team in the last 4 months? Dudes telling guys to go other places. Take off your glasses.
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I have some other thoughts, but only have a short amount of time, so I'll respond to this. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I'm not sure what the signing day numbers were, from an over-signing standpoint. Do you know?
Guys who aren't good enough to play, or aren't putting in the work in order to contribute, shouldn't be babied. I think you and all Iowa fans can appreciate this
ne thing Frost has said is that when they showed up, they found there were some guys that like being "Nebraska football players". But they didn't love the "playing football" part of it. They were enjoying their time as a Nebraska football player and the attention that goes along with it, but had not dedicated themselves to the craft, to being the best. I don't know about you, but I HOPE our program would not have room for guys like that.If they're not good enough to play, they need to hear that. They also need to be fed reality, as in, "we're going to recruit over you". From what I've heard, he hasn't told anyone that they aren't welcome or have to leave. I have heard that the discussions he is having with kids is an honest assessment of where they are in the program. He's not sugar coating if he thinks they have better options. The kids are allowed to make the decision on what they want to do after Frost lays everything out for them.
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