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My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
So instead he ensured that his loyal soldier would get publicly humiliated. Brilliant.

With friends like that…
 
My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
LOL.
Donald Trump is a moron. He wanted to appoint Gaetz because he wants to burn the place down, and because Gaetz is slavishly loyal. You don’t take a loss like that as some 4D level chess move.
 
Doobi at least has a sense of humor and can be clever.

Northern is like Brick from Anchorman, but instead of weather, talks politics.

steve carrell anchorman GIF by FirstAndMonday
Northern is the board gimp. He enjoys the humiliation and abuse.
 
My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
I can see this, but I think it's giving Trump far too much credit.

Trump owns that entire party and now Elon does too (perhaps more than Trump) since there's the threats of him funding a challenger if anyone doesn't cooperate w/ what they want. I think they fully believed they could have got Gaetz in as the AG, and then have him do Trump and Elon's bidding. Trump's only strategy is to be an asshole and strong arm people into doing things they know are wrong.
 
I can see this, but I think it's giving Trump far too much credit.

Trump owns that entire party and now Elon does too (perhaps more than Trump) since there's the threats of him funding a challenger if anyone doesn't cooperate w/ what they want. I think they fully believed they could have got Gaetz in as the AG, and then have him do Trump and Elon's bidding. Trump's only strategy is to be an asshole and strong arm people into doing things they know are wrong.
It’s quite clear they did little or no background on any of these nominees. Sadly, most will still go through, but these people are making trumps cabinet in ‘16 look like mensah candidates by comparison.
 
Doobi at least has a sense of humor and can be clever.

Northern is like Brick from Anchorman, but instead of weather, talks politics.

steve carrell anchorman GIF by FirstAndMonday

That's because in all these years, I'm not sure I've ever seen evidence that Northern is capable of humor, but he's undoubtedly of greater intellect than Doobi.

He employs strategies to avoid making claims or defending positions - not standing for anything - and always trying to be the question asker and not the question answerer.

They can be 'winning' techniques, but he's not good at it, and it's obvious, but he thinks he is, so it's funny.
 
That's because in all these years, I'm not sure I've ever seen evidence that Northern is capable of humor, but he's undoubtedly of greater intellect than Doobi.

He employs strategies to avoid making claims or defending positions - not standing for anything - and always trying to be the question asker and not the question answerer.

They can be 'winning' techniques, but he's not good at it, and it's obvious, but he thinks he is, so it's funny.
Short version for me: Doobi seems misguided. Northern is just a miserable asshole.
 
- The usual suspects want to talk about anything other than Gaetz in a thread about Gaetz. What a surprise. I am surprised there hasn't been any Greenwald or Zero Hedge paste jobs.

- It is exceedingly amusing to watch Northern try to be clever. He's like the middle class Doobi.
Need more threads about transgender NCAA athletes. All 10 should be profiled out of the 100000 plus women athletes. Congress holds special hearings over this yet. Absolutely squat about healthcare denials.
 
I can see this, but I think it's giving Trump far too much credit.

Trump owns that entire party and now Elon does too (perhaps more than Trump) since there's the threats of him funding a challenger if anyone doesn't cooperate w/ what they want. I think they fully believed they could have got Gaetz in as the AG, and then have him do Trump and Elon's bidding. Trump's only strategy is to be an asshole and strong arm people into doing things they know are wrong.
Like I said, it’s just my general sense of what went down. How often does a cabinet nominee immediately resign from their current position? Very rarely. They normally wait to see if they are going to be confirmed first.

Kristi Noem is still the Governor of South Dakota. Marco Rubio is still in the Senate.

But Gaetz resigned almost immediately. And I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that he stepped down just days before the ethics report was set to be released.

It would have looked pretty weird if Gaetz had just abruptly resigned from the House for no reason shortly after winning reelection. So it’s not a stretch to think that the nomination was simply Trump giving his minion some cover while he slipped out the back door.

They thought his resignation would keep
the report from going public, but obviously they were wrong about that. If the report had stayed buried like they thought it would then Gaetz could have skipped off to OAN and lived happily ever after.

It’s not a particularly complicated plan. Certainly not 4D chess.
 
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Like I said, it’s just my general sense of what went down. How often does a cabinet nominee immediately resign from their current position? Very rarely. They normally wait to see if they are going to be confirmed first.

Kristi Noem is still the Governor of South Dakota. Marco Rubio is still in the Senate.

But Gaetz resigned almost immediately. And I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that he stepped down just days before the ethics report was set to be released.

It would have looked pretty weird if Gaetz had just abruptly resigned from the House for no reason shortly after winning reelection. So it’s not a stretch to think that the nomination was simply Trump giving his minion some cover while he slipped out the back door.

They thought his resignation would keep
the report from going public, but obviously they were wrong about that. If the report had stayed buried like they thought it would then Gaetz could have skipped off to OAN and lived happily ever after.

It’s not a particularly complicated plan. Certainly not 4D chess.
You mean that was Bonespur's plan? Or just his concept of a plan?
 
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Crybaby wasn’t an attempted insult? Lol. No self awareness. Projection. Except you attempt to insult a good human in Biden. I insult a PoS one. A felon rapist. Why can’t you learn?
Crybaby IS an insult- you bet.
Biden may have been a decent human at one point in his life, but that ship sailed a while ago, and now he’s a fried out puppet for Dr. Jill and the shadow figures who pull those puppet strings.
You ask me why I “can’t learn”?
My God.
 
My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
Interesting theory.
I’m so glad that fool is gone. Period.
 
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Crybaby IS an insult- you bet.
Biden may have been a decent human at one point in his life, but that ship sailed a while ago, and now he’s a fried out puppet for Dr. Jill and the shadow figures who pull those puppet strings.
You ask me why I “can’t learn”?
My God.
You’re senile. Truly losing it.
 
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My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
 
LOL.
Donald Trump is a moron. He wanted to appoint Gaetz because he wants to burn the place down, and because Gaetz is slavishly loyal. You don’t take a loss like that as some 4D level chess move.
This is so. Turned out it ended up being a win-win for those of us in FL CD-01 though. Gaetz is gone and won't be AG.
 
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K wasn't sure if you were advocating for "investigate everyone" or just release all existing ethics reports.

I'm curious as to how many ethics reports that have not been released.
Many people are curious, but the person who claims there are some (Northern) has failed to answer that.
 
My general sense of things is that Trump never really wanted Gaetz as his AG and never had any illusions that he would be confirmed. Gaetz is a very polarizing figure, even within the GOP. And getting 50 senators to confirm him was probably not realistic.

I think Gaetz was looking for a way to bow out of the House and save face. He knew the ethics report was coming and he knew it was going to have some pretty embarrassing stuff in it. He hoped that by resigning from the House it would prevent the report from going public.

For his part, Trump rewarded his loyal soldier by floating Gaetz as his AG nominee in order to give him a dignified reason to resign from the House, knowing that Gaetz would never get confirmed and would end up taking a job at OAN or one of the other conservative channels.
This is funny. It's like you believe that anyone in the GOP actually believes that there are still consequences for bad behavior. .
 
Statutory rape claims against Gaetz in the report just released. So will the law and order folks in FL prosecute him for those and the drug purchase and use claims? And to think that Bonespurs nominated him to be Attorney General. That just shows that Bonespurs has no clue about hiring anyone, and doesn't do any kind of check up on them. He just rewards his toadies. But I guess sex claims against Gaetz and the found liable for sex abuse judgment and $5.5 million fine against Bonespurs are kind of the same thing. No wonder Bonespurs thought he could be a good AG. Birds of a feather stick together.
 
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