Take it for what it’s worth, but sites that grade linemen have for the most part graded Richman fairly well as far as I know. So when there’s stuff where it looks like he screwed, idk if he got left out to dry by another guy missing an assignment, or if he simply graded out better in other ways to even it out.
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Take it for what it’s worth, but sites that grade linemen have for the most part graded Richman fairly well as far as I know. So when there’s stuff where it looks like he screwed, idk if he got left out to dry by another guy missing an assignment, or if he simply graded out better in other ways to even it out.
I would give Alex the first half of the NW game to show signs of life. If he doesn’t then I would go with your plan…
I agree, but it is hard to perform your/Padilla best when the hook is hanging over your head. Padilla is an unknown because he is under a lot of pressure when he does finally get on the field. JMO
Newsflash: sometimes players are better or worse than their recruit ranking. We've not seen Labas or May yet, I don't know how you can make that judgement. Wasn't Petras a 4 star or high 3 star? I liked the film from May the best of the four we have on campus, we've nothing to lose by giving him and Labas a chance.
I'm not making a judgment. I don't decide who plays or doesn't play. I do know the QB play this year and last has been abysmal and the coaches are telling us that Labas isn't close to that level. They've told us May wasn't close to understanding the offense.
This isn't about stars or rankings. Do you believe that this staff is gifted when it comes to QB talent evaluation? If not then why do you believe they are able to identify some hidden QB gems that no other P5 schools saw fit to offer? If you do then then why do we find ourselves in the QB situation that we've been in the last 3 years?
To be fair, as far as May goes - he’s only been on campus since august so it’s not like has had time to do more than learn the playbook.
Given the performance of Petras to date, it’s astounding to me that we haven’t seen Padilla prior to last week.
He actually hasn't graded out very well. PFF gives him a combined run/pass grade of 54.4 which ranks him at 431 out of 598 tackles. His run blocking has been below average and his pass blocking ranking at 478/545 is abysmal. Maybe you're thinking he hasn't been as bad as the rest? I think you're right from that perspective.
This isn't really about any particular player. Over the last few years I've lost faith in this staff to effectively evaluate, land and develop QB's. I'm not sure what anyone has seen that would give fans faith in them to adequately perform those functions. From the players we've seen to the players we haven't, there is no objective evidence to suggest they can.
Petras is the first quarterback that I’ve really questioned what they evaluate QBs on - he must be the greatest practice player ever to get as long of a leash as he has over the past two years. If nothing else, I’d have had Spencer on a short leash and/or split time with Alex until one outperformed the other in games.
Stanley, for all our complaints, overall had a pretty good career at Iowa. In the Rudock/CJB debate, it wasn’t as tho his stats were terrible, it was more that CJB in the eyes of fans had clearly passed him.
I have noticed this as well. Snap seems to be mistimed by a half second. Either he is going too quick, or not quick enough.
With the exception of Kirk none of the people that evaluated/developed those guys is in the same positions today. I know Brian assumed the OC position in 2017 but Stanley was already in place and in his 2nd year in the program and had 2 different QB coaches in Davis and O'Keefe. The QB evaluation, recruiting, and development over the past 5 years has been suspect at best.
He even said this week the fumble to Padilla was his fault because he was rushing the snap to try and get a jump on the play.
I wonder if his blocking would look better at G, because his snapping is so slow and off he’s starting every play from behind and doesn’t seem to be the type of athlete to overcome that.
What I'd give to have Nate at QB this year. I know the OL hasn't been good, but I'd bet we'd have 2 more wins.
ISU especially Petras missed ALOT of throws.
And there would have been no fumble at the goal line because Nate would have just run the sneak and probably exited out the back of the endzone.
I don't understand how they can't fix the slow snap of Jones!?!?! Seems you just have hm practice with someone and snap it as fast as he can about 100 times a day. Until it comes naturally and he can then concentrate on blocking.
It’s maybe the perplexing thing I’ve ever seen from a center. It’s visibly thrown off timing on running plays as well, with the guards moving before Jones does, leaving an opening for a defender to knife through.
Definitely would have two more wins. But you could probably say that with around 150 other QBs playing DI football.
I'd say this is the major issue in our offensive woes, especially in the run game, which leads into not being able to play action pass effectively......
It takes 2-3 years to learn the playbook of one of the consistently worst offenses in CFB
It is astounding, yet not surprising. Iowa is at the bottom of every offensive stat since Brian became OC, this is what the coaching staff is choosing to be
So tired of this refrain.
yes it shouldn’t take 3 years to learn an offense, but it also generally takes a bit longer than 3 months as well.
you’re being deliberately obtuse if you thought May arriving in august would jump past 3 other quarterbacks.
It’s uncommon but not unheard of. I think the staff places too much importance on knowing the system and not enough on talent when it comes to QB. You rarely see an Iowa QB play who isn’t in the 3rd year of the system. If it takes 3 years to learn a college offense then it’s too complicated.
Was thinking on this earlier. Someone would have to do the legwork i suppose, but for Iowa, I think McCann might be the last guy who didn't outright win the job until his senior, or 4th/5th SR year. Vandy and CJB weren't named the starters until their RS JR seniors, Tate/Stanley started as TR Sophs, Petras was a RS soph. Vandy is the only guy i can think of who started games as a RS soph. Stanley for one beat out upperclassmen to win the job.
So I think its exaggerated to some extent that only JRs/SRs can master the offense. Yes, Iowa doesn't start true frosh QBs or at least burn their RS yrs too often, but it has happened. Outside of schools that get the 5* recruits that you HAVE to play them or they transfer (see Fields and Ewers to name 2 in recent memory), personally I'd guess you don't see TR frosh start at QBs too often outside of situations where the school is dealing with transfers/new coaches.
Heck, look at Michigan. It wasn't until partway thru his soph campaign that Harbaugh officially turned the reigns over to JJ.
I was agreeing with you, but, you are looking to be argumentative it appears.
I will go back to being deliberately obtuse and wait for you next brilliant response
Not specifically looking to be argumentative, sorry if it came off that way. Just tired of the countless times it’s been turned into a punchline - that comment from I think Padilla about how long it took to learn/master the Iowa offense.
When you're as weak at QB as we are, the staff should be looking at a backup such as Carson May like "hey, we know you haven't grasped the playbook in its entirety but we need you out there"
"We're looking for a spark and need snaps from you now. Get ready."
And Carson has been practicing since mid June, not August. Many many true frosh QBs play throughout every season in football.
guess I’d argue you don’t see as many true freshmen qbs get playing time outside garbage snaps at best (tho probably more than I think tbf) as you think.
coaches aren’t allowed much time with players in the summer, certainly not compared to august camp.
ive said before, many times, I thought Padilla should have been the starter this year, or at most Petras should have had a shorter leash than he did. And quite honestly, at this point I have no confidence in the staffs evaluations of Labas or May to believe any statement made by anyone that either must be bad if they aren’t getting on the field.
id love to listen in on qb sessions, and ask kirk and Brian privately what their opinions of each are.
It’s really a problem that shouldn’t be happening. I’d like to see Myslinski get a shot, they’ve rotated just about everyone else.
Reminds me of a situation a few years ago at Nebbie where Cam Jurgens kept snapping high on shotgun snaps. It went on for most of the season and ruined the timing on the majority of their plays.
Honestly perplexed we haven’t seen myslinski at all, highly touted C recruit.
padilla or Labas, I don’t care at this point. So long as it’s not petras.
He was the dude that had the crazy snaps in Kinnick for the covid game and Frosty said it was because the Iowa sideline was clapping too loud.
They were the Iowa staff but that may have been before the season started. Understandable since he's a true freshman I guess. I think this was how they described Labas last year as well.
Especially weird since Logan has been so poor at the position.
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