Go on Record about a second Trump presidency…

[Nole Lou]

What do you think would have happened if Pence didn't make a stand?

It would have been tied up in court for a couple days to establish that Pence doesn't actually have any authority to do otherwise.

The scheme was dumb and had no path to success. Trump was 0 for a million in court trying to change everything. I'm amazed that someone feels like the government and institutions are literally so fragile that Pence held the future of Democracy in his hands LOL. I mean, bully for Pence, he did do the right thing under presumably some physical danger, and absolutely made things easier.

Someone has to explain to me how Trump gets control of the military, the entire bureaucracy of government (who all hate him), federal law enforcement, etc.

 

[ISUBryce]

I’d say 6.

He basically did nothing from a legislative perspective last time. I think a lot of that is because he was unprepared to win and didn’t have anything in place ready to go. His admin will be more ready but so will the opposition party so I just think his second term will be mostly a nothing burger like the first one was, other than there will be a steady stream of needless cruelty, meanness, and whining coming from the WH.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Most likely outcome (choose from the following):

1. Trump’s presidency will go down as the greatest of all time. Trump will bring unprecedented prosperity to America, foreign conflicts will be resolved, our country’s borders will be secure, and there will be a peaceful transition of power January 2029.

2. Trump’s presidency will be mostly good and there will be a peaceful transition of power at the end of it in 2029.

3. Trump’s presidency will be somewhat good and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

4. Trump’s presidency will be neither good nor bad and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

5. Trump’s presidency will be somewhat bad and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

6. Trump’s presidency will be a shit show, as expected, but nothing remotely bad as the libs predicted will happen and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

7. Trump’s presidency will be___________(fill in the blank in your response), Trump will try to make the case to the American people to stay in power, enough Republicans will convince him to step away at the end of his term, and Trump reluctantly agrees and there is a successful transition of power in 2029.

8. Trump’s presidency will be ___________. Trump will make the case to stay in power, there will be fraction and division in the Republican Party, and it becomes a big ordeal with Trump eventually having to walk away and leave in a similar fashion as 2021. MAGA starts uprisings and lawlessness.

9. Trump’s presidency will be __________. Trump will make the case to stay in power, will have the backing of most Republicans, violence and civil war break out with _______ (Trump’s regime is put down and democracy is restored or Trump’s regime wins out, he controls the military, and the USA is a dictatorship).

10. Trump’s presidency is ____________. His dictatorship aims are ___________________. He dies in office due to a Big Mac cardiac attack or he is assassinated.

11. Trump becomes a dictator from day one. He is a major threat to the United States and the world. The world responds by ________. Division and violence in America are _____________. Trump’s political enemies are _____________. Illegal immigrants and other nonwhite, non-Christians are ________. This is the end of American democracy, Trump stays in power until death and autocratic power is handed down.

12. Come up with your very own unique position.

I will go on record as #8. Trump’s presidency will be a shit show, with a lot of social unrest and violence worse than the 1960s. At the end, Trump will try to stay in power, there will be serious division in the Republican Party, but eventually Trump will be forced to leave and he will sulk away in protest, leaving the White House in a similar fashion as 2021.

I am 100% in agreement with you.

Trump will have another successful term. Inflation will drop. Jobs will be plentiful. Peace will be achieved around the world.
The makeup of congress will determine how successful he is.

HAHAHA!!!! The dope people are smoking IS way stronger now. Incredible revisionist history included.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Is 82 the year you graduated or your overall IQ?

I think you are giving him too much credit whichever way it rolls.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I think you are giving him too much credit whichever way it rolls.

I try to be generous.

 

[Randall Stanhope]

8, a shit show of lawlessness and corruption the likes of which we have never seen.

Worse than mass murdering communist regimes of the last 110 years??

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Worse than mass murdering communist regimes of the last 110 years??

Huh?

 

[Randall Stanhope]

Huh?

Another Trump presidency would be worse than mass murdering communist regimes?

Seemed a pretty straight forward question.

You said a Trump presidency would be the worst corruption and tyranny ever.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

I agree with you.

I think it’s unfortunate how much some people are downplaying the existential threat Trump poses. I believe Aardvark means well, but I strongly disagree with him.

All of that said, I am not going to fault someone for doing their best to try to reach the best conclusion and act accordingly. I will share my disagreement and encourage them to vote for Harris, but I am not going to be nasty toward them if they do end up voting for Trump. The MAGA idiot brigade I don’t care about being an asshole to because they are worthless, lying, servile pieces of MAGAt shit who deserve a long and excruciatingly painful death for betraying America. They are too far gone and aren’t worth it.

Regardless, in the event Trump is as ruthless and fascist as we all fear, we are going to need all Americans of goodwill to stand up against that shit—which includes a few million Americans who just so happened to vote Trump because they just so happened to believe he was the lesser of two evils.

You can mock and ridicule them all you want, but at the end of the day they are decent people doing the best they can. I want them on our side if push comes to shove.

I’m sorry that Trump and MAGA still have you by the pussy - something that no election, win or lose, will cure.

 

[hexumhawk]

I have a sneaking suspicion this will prove accurate.

Yes, because the fed is doing everything in their power to artificially prop up the economy as we speak. If Trump takes over, they will end all of that and try to dump a crap sandwich in his lap.

 

[RileyHawk]

Yes, because the fed is doing everything in their power to artificially prop up the economy as we speak. If Trump takes over, they will end all of that and try to dump a crap sandwich in his lap.

What are they doing to prop up the economy that is inappropriate in your mind?

 

[thewop]

Most likely outcome (choose from the following):

1. Trump’s presidency will go down as the greatest of all time. Trump will bring unprecedented prosperity to America, foreign conflicts will be resolved, our country’s borders will be secure, and there will be a peaceful transition of power January 2029.

2. Trump’s presidency will be mostly good and there will be a peaceful transition of power at the end of it in 2029.

3. Trump’s presidency will be somewhat good and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

4. Trump’s presidency will be neither good nor bad and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

5. Trump’s presidency will be somewhat bad and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

6. Trump’s presidency will be a shit show, as expected, but nothing remotely bad as the libs predicted will happen and there will be a peaceful transition of power in 2029.

7. Trump’s presidency will be___________(fill in the blank in your response), Trump will try to make the case to the American people to stay in power, enough Republicans will convince him to step away at the end of his term, and Trump reluctantly agrees and there is a successful transition of power in 2029.

8. Trump’s presidency will be ___________. Trump will make the case to stay in power, there will be fraction and division in the Republican Party, and it becomes a big ordeal with Trump eventually having to walk away and leave in a similar fashion as 2021. MAGA starts uprisings and lawlessness.

9. Trump’s presidency will be __________. Trump will make the case to stay in power, will have the backing of most Republicans, violence and civil war break out with _______ (Trump’s regime is put down and democracy is restored or Trump’s regime wins out, he controls the military, and the USA is a dictatorship).

10. Trump’s presidency is ____________. His dictatorship aims are ___________________. He dies in office due to a Big Mac cardiac attack or he is assassinated.

11. Trump becomes a dictator from day one. He is a major threat to the United States and the world. The world responds by ________. Division and violence in America are _____________. Trump’s political enemies are _____________. Illegal immigrants and other nonwhite, non-Christians are ________. This is the end of American democracy, Trump stays in power until death and autocratic power is handed down.

12. Come up with your very own unique position.

I will go on record as #8. Trump’s presidency will be a shit show, with a lot of social unrest and violence worse than the 1960s. At the end, Trump will try to stay in power, there will be serious division in the Republican Party, but eventually Trump will be forced to leave and he will sulk away in protest, leaving the White House in a similar fashion as 2021.

Well that was convoluted...

His presidency would be mostly good in tangible, objective terms, but be recorded in history books as one of the worst presidencies ever.

The [Insert MSM News Channel] documentary of how damaging Trump is on a global scale would win awards.

Bias. Plain and simple.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I’m sorry that Trump and MAGA still have you by the pussy - something that no election, win or lose, will cure.

You sound like an idiot.

Buh bye.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

You sound like an idiot.

Buh bye.

Sure. Run away, “Ragnar”. 😂😂😂😂😂

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I don't disagree with any of this. I think it's totally disqualifying for him.

But "if he succeeded" is carrying a lot of water here. He didn't almost succeed, he didn't come remotely close. He failed at every single turn.

It would have been tied up in court for a couple days to establish that Pence doesn't actually have any authority to do otherwise.

The scheme was dumb and had no path to success. Trump was 0 for a million in court trying to change everything. I'm amazed that someone feels like the government and institutions are literally so fragile that Pence held the future of Democracy in his hands LOL. I mean, bully for Pence, he did do the right thing under presumably some physical danger, and absolutely made things easier.

Someone has to explain to me how Trump gets control of the military, the entire bureaucracy of government (who all hate him), federal law enforcement, etc.

And more maggot adjacent posting.

Apparently, not being successful in committing a crime is no big deal. Conspiring to overthrow an election? Pshaw! That's no worse than conspiring to commit murder. No harm, no foul.

It is ENTIRELY within the realm of possibility that they could disrupt this election to the point that it will go to the House where each state gets one vote and Trump is almost assured of a win. He'll control the executive and can appoint the most venal bootlickers he likes. You think Vance will reign him in?

If the GOP takes the Senate and holds the House, he controls the legislature unless you think the GOP suddenly grows some semblance of a f'n spine.

He's already got a SCOTUS that said he literally cannot commit a crime in the performance of his "official duties".

Now...let's assume people don't like a president being appointed in such a manner and they protest. And during those protests, windows get smashed, and businesses burn - anybody could do that, you know - and the Commander in Chief orders the US military in to establish "order".

Tell me what about that isn't possible.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Sure. Run away, “Ragnar”. 😂😂😂😂😂

I don’t engage stupid.

And nothing says badass like calling someone a pussy on an anonymous message board.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

I don’t engage stupid.

And nothing says badass like calling someone a pussy on an anonymous message board.

I didn’t call you a pussy. I offered my condolences that Trump and MAGA still have you by the pussy.

 

[Nole Lou]

And more maggot adjacent posting.

Apparently, not being successful in committing a crime is no big deal. Conspiring to overthrow an election? Pshaw! That's no worse than conspiring to commit murder. No harm, no foul.

It is ENTIRELY within the realm of possibility that they could disrupt this election to the point that it will go to the House where each state gets one vote and Trump is almost assured of a win. He'll control the executive and can appoint the most venal bootlickers he likes. You think Vance will reign him in?

If the GOP takes the Senate and holds the House, he controls the legislature unless you think the GOP suddenly grows some semblance of a f'n spine.

He's already got a SCOTUS that said he literally cannot commit a crime in the performance of his "official duties".

Now...let's assume people don't like a president being appointed in such a manner and they protest. And during those protests, windows get smashed, and businesses burn - anybody could do that, you know - and the Commander in Chief orders the US military in to establish "order".

Tell me what about that isn't possible.

I literally said that Trump's actions on January 6th were disqualifying to me. When have I ever said it was no big deal?

Charles Manson's crimes were a big freaking deal too. But "big deal" doesn't equal "end of democracy".

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Someone has to explain to me how Trump gets control of the military, the entire bureaucracy of government (who all hate him), federal law enforcement, etc.

Why, the guy in the buffalo head dress would have enacted the necessary legislation, of course. He controlled the mAgIc PoDiUm, after all.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I literally said that Trump's actions on January 6th were disqualifying to me. When have I ever said it was no big deal?

Charles Manson's crimes were a big freaking deal too. But "big deal" doesn't equal "end of democracy".

So the plausible scenario I put forward - a president installed by his own party over the will of the American people who weaponizes his entire administration against his political enemies and then uses the US military against US citizens? The idea that the military is somehow firewalled against MAGA is...ludicrous. Trump does all that and he's committed no "crime" and the idea that he could possibly be impeached is laughable. So what do you call that?

Jan 6 and the aftermath demonstrates just how far his cult will go and just how far HIS party will go to excuse and embrace him. He saying out loud what he intends to do and his support may actually be growing...because people say that what he did after the 2020 election, on Jan 6, and everything he's done since isn't any kind of threat.

 

[globalhawk]

It would have been tied up in court for a couple days to establish that Pence doesn't actually have any authority to do otherwise.

The scheme was dumb and had no path to success. Trump was 0 for a million in court trying to change everything. I'm amazed that someone feels like the government and institutions are literally so fragile that Pence held the future of Democracy in his hands LOL. I mean, bully for Pence, he did do the right thing under presumably some physical danger, and absolutely made things easier.

Someone has to explain to me how Trump gets control of the military, the entire bureaucracy of government (who all hate him), federal law enforcement, etc.

The military would have zero to do with a situation where the House was the determinant of the election. It was a situation that had never happened and could have resulted in the Supreme Court making the decision. Do I believe that the election would have been overturned? Not likely. However, we were dealing with humans and not laws.

 

[Randon]

All of the angst (or lack thereof) over Trump highlights today's differences between the political parties. Trump is indicted for felony charges related to January 6th for attempting to overturn the results of an election. Instead of running him out of their party, Republicans have willingly embraced him and nominated him as their presidential candidate. Had this happened in the Democratic Party that same individual would have been immediately barred from the party and disqualified from ever holding public office as a Democrat.