Well go ahead: tell me of an advantage plan that covers all out of pocket?
Edit: since it sounds like you may be near Medicare age, here is a nice guide to compare:
GOP coming for the "entitlements"
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Edit: since it sounds like you may be near Medicare age, here is a nice guide to compare:
I am licensed insurance provide who provides these plans to 65 and up. So I know the system.
Seriously, read my link above. It’s a quick read that gives the best explanation of advantage plans and how they compare to original Medicare with Medicare supplements.
I currently have a Plan F....as I was grandfathered in....It ain't cheap but Dr's offices sure love me! My "F" premium just went from $295/month to $350/month....plus my $170/month for MediCare....My bride couldn't get an "F" plan.....
Be damned wary of "advantage plans" unless your are healthy! They nickel and dime you to death....if you have a chronic condition that needs medical monitoring, there are better ways to go. I find it more than a little disingenuous how the TV ads for MediCare are pushing "advantage plans" without mentioning they are "advantage plans......Don't trust Joe Willy or JJ!
So, it is your assertion that the phrase “entitlement reform” was just invented by Graham there? And never mentioned Ned by Newt or Ryan decades ago and every week since?
You need to take a page from ciggy in how to fearmonger properly.
You live in your own very dark world don't you.
Social Security is going to run out anyway. Either the Republicans will cut it or it will run dry. Either way unless changes are made it's gone. Democrats are hiding the fact that it's running out and deflecting the blame by scaring us that the republicans are going to cut it. There are too many loopholes that allow people that haven't contributed to it to get distributions out of it.
It's a lot like Lake Mead. If you're paying attention it's running dry, and it's just a matter of time before it's gone unless changes are made on how it's distributed or refilled. California is taking from it but not doing anything to preserve it. Many people recognize the impact of it running out and want to make changes, like republicans to Social Security. Californians want it to keep coming and blaming others for trying to cut off their water supply, like democrats to Social Security.
It's a lot like Lake Mead. If you're paying attention it's running dry, and it's just a matter of time before it's gone unless changes are made on how it's distributed or refilled. California is taking from it but not doing anything to preserve it. Many people recognize the impact of it running out and want to make changes, like republicans to Social Security. Californians want it to keep coming and blaming others for trying to cut off their water supply, like democrats to Social Security.
Is anybody under the impression that reform doesn't mean cuts? I have a hard time believing Rs will raise taxes to pay for this stuff.
So reviewing budget = chopping block? Bizarre. But you all just want unabated government growth and look what you've got right now. "We're in a good position for growth...." Yeah, when you're at the effing bottom looking up, that's a great position to see growth.
I would imagine most people are losing sleep because we are heading into recession, all time high inflation, stock market crashing, all time high fuel prices, wages that are not keeping up, all time credit card debt, sky high housing/renters markets, feds raising rates.
But you keep posting bold face lies.
I’m not and I’m standing by my stance. Just because a group of republicans signed some pact doesn’t mean anything will happen lol. How many times has this happened where this fear mongering is used but nothing comes of it?
That is their platform. Lol. My goodness what more do you need. Fear mongering? Lolololol
Democrats beat them to it, and walloped the poor to boot.
The law of supply and demand is not to be conned. As the supply of money (of claims) increases relative to the supply of tangible assets in the economy, prices must eventually rise. Thus the earnings saved by the productive members of the society lose value in terms of goods. When the economy's books are finally balanced, one finds that this loss in value represents the goods purchased by the government for welfare or other purposes with the money proceeds of the government bonds financed by bank credit expansion. - Alan Greenspan.
I could see it being part of their platform if they actually did something about it but it’s all talk.
I believe the last president to tinker with benefits was Obama (notably a Democrat) who took money from Medicare to partially pay for Obamacare.
I know the Medicare benefits for retired military have been reduced dramatically.
I did NOT know that plan F had been axed.
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Plan F is one of an array of cookie-cutter Medicare Supplement plans that cover the healthcare expenses that go uncovered by Medicare (The 20% co-insurance plus deductibles and so on.) I think there are between 15-20 different plans. You buy your supplement from a private insurance company, picking a lettered plan in the process, and they set the rates. Medicare determines the coverage of each lettered plan which is identical regardless of which company you buy from. The prices vary company to company.
I just checked our supplements and discovered that Plan F is what my wife is signed up for. She pays $350 a month for this, but it covers deductibles and copays. ... I have Plan N. and pay around $200, and still have various copays and deductibles. I go along happily paying the copays and receive the same level of attention, and access to flexibility that my wife receives so it all works. The physicians' offices seem to love either combination (Medicare and F/Medicare and N) so there is a hassle factor has been eliminated.
Thanks for the information. I am not surprised that the Dems are coming after our Healthcare insurance plans. I am not surprised that they would claim the opposite.
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Opinion:
I would be wary of "Advantage" Plans. They are structured in a manner similar to HMO plans. You do not get to see regular doctors ... just the ones who agree to their rate schedule, and accordingly wait times for appointments are lengthy. Additionally, many of the procedures that are covered by the supplement plans are either not covered or a less expensive alternative is substituted.
Be careful if you are thinking of going this route. Read the material in detail.
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RICK SCOTT went after medi-care years ago, lining his pockets with millions of $$$$$$$$s, now wants a second go around. Fuc'n thief, and the Florida ass holes keep voting him in .
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Nothing in the law regarding the Democrats favorite Ponzi scheme has been changed.
The reality is the Ponzi can’t pay out promised benefits after 2034.
This has been the case for a long time.
If you read the Social Security and Medicare Board of Trustees message to the public instead of Twitter you would have known this years ago.
The Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund, which pays retirement and survivors benefits, will be able to pay scheduled benefits on a timely basis until 2034, one year later than reported last year. At that time, the fund's reserves will become depleted and continuing tax income will be sufficient to pay 77 percent of scheduled benefits.
Chis trying to keep up with his anti-GOP twitter algorithm...sometimes it overwhelms him. LOL
Problem is, the past recipients never actually paid enough to make the system sustainable.
Expect tax hikes (as they’ve done over dozen times to keep the Ponzi going since inception) and or benefit cuts.
Logical place to start would be not making welfare payments to people who don’t need welfare, but this will be couched as ‘cutting benefits promised to seniors’ with no regard for wealth status or income of those getting the benefits versus those currently paying for them.
How am I wrong? Did anything pass or is everyone just playing political football with these entitlements?
alaska...you have no reason to doubt him. He is spot on. Republicans have been after SS since its inception and MediCare, too!Chis trying to keep up with his anti-GOP twitter algorithm...sometimes it overwhelms him. LOL
Republicans HATE government programs that are successful. It damages their anti-government rhetoric. The Republicans dont trust the middle class and never have.
This isn't a secret. Scott, Johnson and others have been talking (seriously) about this for some time.
Do some of you listen to what you want to hear? I can't believe its carrier related since it's definitely stupid TV fodder.
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Glad it's all about you. Screw the retirees living on it or people about to retire relying on it.
If they are relying on what I am paying in, then it sounds like it has been mismanaged pretty badly by the government.
