Gophers Hawkeyes still strongly disagree about disputed fair catch

[TCity Hawk]

Gophers, Hawkeyes still strongly disagree about the invalid fair-catch call

Cooper DeJean’s negated touchdown happened last season, but it remains a hot topic heading into Saturday’s game between Minnesota and Iowa in Minneapolis.

www.startribune.com

 

[TCity Hawk]

If you can't read the article here's Flecks comments

“What was controversial about that game?” Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said at Big Ten Media Days in July, playfully batting down a question about the disputed finish. “It was an illegal fair-catch signal.”

 

[TCity Hawk]

If you can't read the article here's Flecks comments

“What was controversial about that game?” Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said at Big Ten Media Days in July, playfully batting down a question about the disputed finish. “It was an illegal fair-catch signal.”

Here are some more of Fleck's comments-

Fleck acknowledged that he savored last year’s breakthrough — “We had a couple of cigars, some good bourbon, some good Pappy [Van Winkle]”

 

[83Hawk]

Ancient history.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

If Iowa had a QB worthy of the title, they would have won that game even after the ludicrous review took the TD away. All Iowa needed was one decent pass completion to be in good FG range for a winning kick. But thanks to KF and BF, there was no such QB on the field.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Ancient history.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

 

[mro1978]

Who else wishes they could have 5 minutes alone in a room with the PJ Douchebag?

 

[plmac9]

Here are some more of Fleck's comments-

Fleck acknowledged that he savored last year’s breakthrough — “We had a couple of cigars, some good bourbon, some good Pappy [Van Winkle]”

Yea well he’s still a tool

 

[Birky]

If you can't read the article here's Flecks comments

“What was controversial about that game?” Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said at Big Ten Media Days in July, playfully batting down a question about the disputed finish. “It was an illegal fair-catch signal.”

This is like OJ saying, “Clearly, the glove doesn’t fit.”

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

It's funny that the vast majority of people still don't understand what the actual call was................

 

[hawkcub]

Even if you believe it was an invalid fair catch. Which is a stretch. The replay ref didn't have the authority to make that call. No matter how much the conference doubled down on the bad call.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

It's funny that the vast majority of people still don't understand what the actual call was................

Bump.....

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Who else wishes they could have 5 minutes alone in a room with the PJ Douchebag?

Wouldn't you want any witnesses around when he beats your ass? He's rich, ya know.

 

[bansheexyz]

The rule should NOT apply to bouncing balls, because you cannot fair catch a bouncing ball. The moment the ball bounces (which everyone can see) there is no fair catch protection and thus no way to deceive defenders into "freezing". I was stunned to learn that invalid signals extends to bouncing balls, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Calling it on replay review is even more bizarre and probably the only time that has ever happened for that penalty. It has to be one of the rarest penalty calls in college and NFL history. Is Tim Odey still an official? I hope the league looked into that guy hard, he did something similar to Iowa the year before with some phantom toe out of bounds on an interception return. Blew the whistle and killed the play for absolutely no ****ing reason.

 

[General Tso]

If you can't read the article here's Flecks comments

“What was controversial about that game?” Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said at Big Ten Media Days in July, playfully batting down a question about the disputed finish. “It was an illegal fair-catch signal.”

 

[Bigg2]

If Iowa had a QB worthy of the title, they would have won that game even after the ludicrous review took the TD away. All Iowa needed was one decent pass completion to be in good FG range for a winning kick. But thanks to KF and BF, there was no such QB on the field.

Still don’t understand not putting Copper in the wildcat for that possession.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

In addition to a Hawkeye W, the only other thing I want to see in this game is Wetjen making the most exaggerated, ostentatious, demonstrative fair catch call in football history.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

In addition to a Hawkeye W, the only other thing I want to see in this game is Wetjen making the most exaggerated, ostentatious, demonstrative fair catch call in football history.

And then run over and kick P.J. Fleck right in what's left of his testicles.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Who else wishes they could have 5 minutes alone in a room with the PJ Douchebag?

Do you really know what you just said?

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

I don't know how anyone after seeing pre-season qb video ever expected a playoff appearance. Maybe KF doesn't know how to size QB shoulder pads. No reasonable explanation

 

[BubsFinn]

My big problem with the invalid fair catch call is that punt returners do what Cooper did all the time and it doesn’t get called. I don’t remember if it was the same day or the following week where a return man from North Carolina did the exact same arm motion, caught the ball off a bounce, and returned it eleven yards. No one said a word about it. None of the players, no one in the booth, no one on the opposite sideline. The teams trotted out for the next series and that was it.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Iowa still won the west. So in the grand scheme of things it didn’t affect the rest of the season.

 

[desihawk]

Iowa still won the west. So in the grand scheme of things it didn’t affect the rest of the season.

but it did massively affect 2024. the beth announcement was made after the mn loss.

 

[LukaDuka]

Still don’t understand not putting Copper in the wildcat for that possession.

Cooper... copper forget about it, he's on a roll...

 

[HawkinMN]

Do you really know what you just said?

Exactly. He did play college ball and a stint in the NFL. Know your audience.

Do you really know what you just said?

 

[onlyTheObvious]

but it did massively affect 2024. the beth announcement was made after the mn loss.

That’s a positive

 

[desihawk]

That’s a positive

when season ends i hope that will be the consensus opinion.

 

[Birky]

when season ends i hope that will be the consensus opinion.

It won’t be, but it’s quite obvious the offense is better.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Exactly. He did play college ball and a stint in the NFL. Know your audience.

I don't think you get it...

 

[Birky]

I don't think you get it...

You want to hump PJ?

That plastic surgery he had really worked.

 

[BonzoFury]

Nobody...NOBODY on the Minnesota sideline was making any gesture about it during the play. None of the coaches engaged the officials after the play.

 

[BonzoFury]

Iowa still won the west. So in the grand scheme of things it didn’t affect the rest of the season.

Tell that to Floyd. That poor SOB has had to spend a year with Fleck.

 

[HawkinMN]

Big Gopher fan up here thinks Iowa wins. Gophs pass defense is poor.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

You want to hump PJ?

That plastic surgery he had really worked.

Not me, I didn't say it!

 

[Birky]

Not me, I didn't say it!

You’re the one that was thinking about it.

Busted.

 

[joelbc1]

Big Gopher fan up here thinks Iowa wins. Gophs pass defense is poor.

Perhaps Iowa will start Chuck Long Saturday night?

 

[shanksit44]

If you can't read the article here's Flecks comments

“What was controversial about that game?” Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said at Big Ten Media Days in July, playfully batting down a question about the disputed finish. “It was an illegal fair-catch signal.”

Ya can’t fix STUPID

 

[HawkinMN]

Perhaps Iowa will start Chuck Long Saturday night?

So be it.

 

[shanksit44]

My big problem with the invalid fair catch call is that punt returners do what Cooper did all the time and it doesn’t get called. I don’t remember if it was the same day or the following week where a return man from North Carolina did the exact same arm motion, caught the ball off a bounce, and returned it eleven yards. No one said a word about it. None of the players, no one in the booth, no one on the opposite sideline. The teams trotted out for the next series and that was it.

Pretty much the same scenario at Kinnick last year. Only the replay idiot that wanted his 10 minutes of Fame to Fvck it up. Then, and only then, Fleck decided it was the “right” call.

The zebras on the field knew exactly what Cooper was doing and were cool with it but the chump monitoring calls on the field and doing nothing all day decided to make a name for himself.

Anyone know if the BIG replaced that idiot?