Stacked Boxes

[Drinkin Buddy]

Nuggets from Chad Leistikow's DVR Monday article:

• Iowa is #6 in teams facing the most stacked boxes thus far this season (22 plays per game)
• Iowa is #11 in rushing at 250.3 yards per game
• Iowa lined up in 12 personnel for all 35 second half plays and were in 12 for 56 of 64 (88%) offensive plays for the game

DVR Monday Article

 

[eyesofhawk]

Yeah that extra guy in the box doesn't do a whole lot when his d-line gets knocked back into his lap

 

[BonzoFury]

Imagine if we could take advantage of this with some passes over the top! Let's hope Lester is cooking something up during the bye week.

 

[pistachio1999]

Nuggets from Chad Leistikow's DVR Monday article:

• Iowa is #6 in teams facing the most stacked boxes thus far this season (22 plays per game)
• Iowa is #11 in rushing at 250.3 yards per game
• Iowa lined up in 12 personnel for all 35 second half plays and were in 12 for 56 of 64 (88%) offensive plays for the game

DVR Monday Article

Loved it when the line went big.

 

[intrepodor]

Imagine if we could take advantage of this with some passes over the top! Let's hope Lester is cooking something up during the bye week.

No passes over 8 yards for noodle arm please.

 

[Greenheadhawk]

No passes over 8 yards for noodle arm please.

Throw the ball on 1st down once in a while, to lazy to know what the percentage is but bet well below 20% of the time.

 

[intrepodor]

Throw the ball on 1st down once in a while, to lazy to know what the percentage is but bet well below 20% of the time.

Want to start 1st down with positive yardage. Not go 2 and 10 or 2 and 12.

 

[Fan In Black]

Throw the ball on 1st down once in a while, to lazy to know what the percentage is but bet well below 20% of the time.

if the OC felt they could...they would.

you can tell a lot about a QB and team by the play calling. No OC wants to be predictable or handcuffed.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Throw the ball on 1st down once in a while, to lazy to know what the percentage is but bet well below 20% of the time.

The problem is, 2nd and 10 is almost a death sentence for this offense. And when we throw the ball on first down, 2nd and 10 is almost 50% likely.

 

[pistachio1999]

No passes over 8 yards for noodle arm please.

How about 2 yard outs on 3rd and long?

 

[thunderstruck1]

I knew it was a lot, but I did not know it was that much. That is what makes our running game so amazing. Like I said TL was not kidding when he came here and said we are going to run the ball. Very soon though (like next game) we are going to have to be able to make them pay for stacking the box with the pass.

 

[SI_NYC]

Yeah that extra guy in the box doesn't do a whole lot when his d-line gets knocked back into his lap

I would be amazed if he's not.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

Yeah that extra guy in the box doesn't do a whole lot when his d-line gets knocked back into his lap

But Iowa doesn't play Troy or Minnesota every week, so the problem is what does Iowa do when 7 or 8 or 9 Ohio State Buckeyes creep into the box? Guys like Knute Rockne figured it out a century ago . . . it's called "the forward pass."

 

[Bro D]

 

[Beattheohiostate]

I knew it was a lot, but I did not know it was that much. That is what makes our running game so amazing. Like I said TL was not kidding when he came here and said we are going to run the ball. Very soon though (like next game) we are going to have to be able to make them pay for stacking the box with the pass.

Yes, but consider this: Many of us have been clamoring for Iowa's offense to use motion and misdirection for at least a decade. Misdirection has been a staple of good football teams for over a century. It's pretty complicated, but I'll try to simplify it: If you fool the defensive players, you don't have to block them. One classic example of that was when all but three Iowa players went right . . . including the entire offensive line and Kaleb Johnson . . . but after a couple steps, Johnson cut back to the right and, well, Minnesota was totally out of position, and another long run ensued. It's . . . not . . . that . . . difficult. But Iowa now has an OC who gets it. The next test is to develop an actual downfield passing attack to complement the solid ground attack. Because we also know that, against a good team, you can't be one-dimensional and win.

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

 

[thunderstruck1]

yourYes, but consider this: Many of us have been clamoring for Iowa's offense to use motion and misdirection for at least a decade. Misdirection has been a staple of good football teams for over a century. It's pretty complicated, but I'll try to simplify it: If you fool the defensive players, you don't have to block them. One classic example of that was when all but three Iowa players went right . . . including the entire offensive line and Kaleb Johnson . . . but after a couple steps, Johnson cut back to the right and, well, Minnesota was totally out of position, and another long run ensued. It's . . . not . . . that . . . difficult. But Iowa now has an OC who gets it. The next test is to develop an actual downfield passing attack to complement the solid ground attack. Because we also know that, against a good team, you can't be one-dimensional and win.

Yeah I have a little bit of an understanding of how it works and what's going on. To add to point though, you could take that same play and have the tight end or outside man release as KJ rounded the edge and the tight end or outside guy would have been wide open for the pass. If he wasn't open and the DB went with him KJ still would have been wide open.. Run pass option out of the same formation and same play. That I believe what makes this system work so well. We just have to get better at the passes, both throwing and catching. Nice to have options, that's for sure.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Last year after 4 games the offense was averaging 246 yds. This year it's 398. I think you have to go back to 2019 to find a better start on offense. Before that it was 2015. So to date, this is the 3rd most offensive production after game 4 in a decade.

Iowa now 73rd in total offense. Something we all begged for in the last couple of years.

It's progress.

 

[thunderstruck1]

Last year after 4 games the offense was averaging 246 yds. This year it's 398. I think you have to go back to 2019 to find a better start on offense. Before that it was 2015. So to date, this is the 3rd most offensive production after game 4 in a decade.

Iowa now 73rd in total offense. Something we all begged for in the last couple of years.

It's progress.

It sure is progress. Now just think if we had another 4 months of installation with all the players. I mean with as little as we have and have had to pass, we are only bound to get better as the passing game comes along. However you slice it we are going to be a better team at the end of the season then we are right now. AND THAT is exciting.

 

[BurgHawk87]

But Iowa doesn't play Troy or Minnesota every week, so the problem is what does Iowa do when 7 or 8 or 9 Ohio State Buckeyes creep into the box? Guys like Knute Rockne figured it out a century ago . . . it's called "the forward pass."

They also don't play Ohio State but once this year. And Minnesota is 8th in total defense while Iowa is 26th. Remaining schedule is 2, 11, 14, 30, 32, 41, 42, 91. Already played vs 18, 96, 8. What does this mean? Nothing. But using Ohio State as an example of what they'll be facing going forward is only true for one week. The reality is most teams will be a worse defense than Minnesota, and by quite a bit.

 

[hexumhawk]

Iowa just needs to be good enough to hurt teams with play action when it is there.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Yes, but consider this: Many of us have been clamoring for Iowa's offense to use motion and misdirection for at least a decade. Misdirection has been a staple of good football teams for over a century. It's pretty complicated, but I'll try to simplify it: If you fool the defensive players, you don't have to block them. One classic example of that was when all but three Iowa players went right . . . including the entire offensive line and Kaleb Johnson . . . but after a couple steps, Johnson cut back to the right and, well, Minnesota was totally out of position, and another long run ensued. It's . . . not . . . that . . . difficult. But Iowa now has an OC who gets it. The next test is to develop an actual downfield passing attack to complement the solid ground attack. Because we also know that, against a good team, you can't be one-dimensional and win.

Poor example, because what you're describing is a zone-run where the RB hits the cutback lane. Unless you're referring to his big run on the counter ... however, most of Kaleb's big runs have just been zone-runs.