Grassley proposes overturning California livestock regulations
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Quite honestly, phuque Chuck and the Iowa pig farmer on this one. Cali has the right to make rules about what can be sold in their state. “States rights” include rights that aren’t always popular. It’s is not Chuck’s business what Cali allows to be sold. If Iowa CNN pig farmers wanna sell their pork in Cali, they will have to conform to Cali law, I guess.
I think Cali is really stupid on this one but no what’s dies it say you have to be right. It’s their loss.
I think Cali is really stupid on this one but no what’s dies it say you have to be right. It’s their loss.
In all seriousness I got no dog in this fight. But I will say this. This is precisely the point of gorsuchs opinion in pork producers. There is a “waking” commerce clause and the appropriate avenue for relief if you’re an aggrieved pork producer is to go to congress.
Not at all,.. But first of all let's understand that "California" doesn't buy products, California customers do. With Grassley's bill both the current Iowa pork and the new California pork could both be made available for sale inside the state of California and then actual customers would decide which product they prefer to purchase...
Again....phuque Chuck! He needs to figure out what to do with the southern border abd the nation’s debt. He has no phuquin’ business sticking his nose into what laws California wants to enforce as a state. This is a California issue....and doesn’t Chuck work for the voters of Iowa?
And that's very likely where this ends up,.. net result being that every US consumer will pay the added cost for all pork products, as dictated by California,.. Let's wait and see what other types of demands California can impose on us...
Chuck is trying to support the pork industry, Iowa is a major pork producer, Iowa pork producers are Iowa voters...
Maybe California senators should introduce bills legalizing abortion in Iowa.
Wait, does Prop 12 say that Iowa can't do something, or that California may not import livestock that wasn't verified to be raised in specific conditions? I'd agree with Grassley on the first one, but the second one is tough rocks. You can't force a state to buy stuff from you. That's how the free market works.
Of course, I kind of hope it's the first one and Grassley gets the law passed so all these states trying to ban abortion in other states can get that stuff thrown back in their faces.
Of course, I kind of hope it's the first one and Grassley gets the law passed so all these states trying to ban abortion in other states can get that stuff thrown back in their faces.
Bullshit.. Chuck is interfering in someone else’s business… put the shoe on the other foot Rifler…he’s meddling in shit ge needn’t concern himself with.or is it NOW bumig intrusive govt is a good thing. Because you agree with it?
A California proposition that is about to drive an across the board nationwide increase in the cost of pork production should most certainly concern a Senator from Iowa,... This is Chuck Grassley's business.
Bullshit.
Grassley has business figuring out the border problem, the debt and what to do with China and Russia. Not to meddle in the internal affairs of California.
All Iowa pig farmers have to do is conform to Cali’s laws and the problem is solved. Some pig farmers in Iowa have already converted. You wanna phuque d up “solution” have Congress and their special interests get involved.
Respectfully, i'd disagree. he 'has business' with respect to both inasmuch as congress has authority under the commerce clause -- and broad authority at that -- to consider questions such as this. Again, I don't have a pig in this fight on the question of what regulation should or should not entail, or whether there should or shouldn't be a national rule. But is very much within the business of a united states senator - whether they be Grassley, Feinstein, or someone less senile than either of them - to consider that issue (including, as it were, to benefit their constituents).
Well Chuck is stickin’ his nose into others business. Imagine the outrage here if a Cali senator did something similar?
Grassley has done shit to work on. W sides what Xaliforniabs want to eat. Maybe Chuck ought to encourage Iowa pig farmers to conform to Cali’s standards? Done pig farmers geee in Iowa already have. They will profit handsomely from their Cali business.
You seriously don't think that California senators don't push regulatory initiatives that are of interest to California residents and businesses' economic interests? The reason ol' Chuckles listens to IA pig farmers is that he represents them, which, believe it or not, is sort of the way the system is supposed to work.
That's bullshit. There is nothing in prop 12 that says they have to change. They only have to change if they want to send their product to California. Don't comply and California doesn't get pork. Californians can fight over the pork they get.
Correct. I don't see the big problem. I can right now buy "organic" and "pasture raised" pork. If there's a market for a niche variation, businesses will adapt and fill it. Grassley needs to shove his socialism up his ass.
By the way, am I the only one here old enough to remember when pasture raised pork was standard, and on any drive through the Iowa countryside you would see fields of little individual pigs houses with sows and little baby piglets running around? I suppose that started to disappear in the 1980s. Probably ISU's doing.
Pork should become cheaper if the California market disappears. More pork equals more supply.
How do you market when there is an excess???
Lower the retail price.
The irony here aardvark is that Grassley had made his bones constantly complaining about federal over reach and Federal interference in to state matters. This is clearly a Cali issue. They have made a business decision for their state. Let them live with it. Did you see any Cali pols interfering with Iowa’s abortion law changes?
Again…. Pig farmers can still sell pork in Cali… they just have to give their pigs a little more room to grow. Some Iowa pig farmers read the Cali law and have made rye needed changes. Sometimes it’s just easier and smarter to get along.
I don’t know who the bigger fool here is…. Grassley or tge Xali legislature who passed the law. But it is their law… let them live with it.
Also note that this was a referendum. The people of California demanded this, not the legislature.
Like organic or free range meat, some producers already serve particular niche markets. This is the same thing, some producers will serve the new California market, while most can easily continue serving the other 49 states.
The California thing hurts producers like Iowa Select, Iowa's largest entity who also happens to be a GOP political donor.
As I see it, they'll be waking up on July 2nd, and ask wait a minute, where's my bacon? Really it is total bullshit that the courts have delayed the will of the voters this long.
So they can set up an Iowa Select, Cali division and cash in. As can the pork producers that have already been building new facilities or retrofitting their old ones. There's going to be a nice market for this.
Honestly Joel, I'm well past being surprised by political irony, which is a polite way of saying "hypocrisy".
Pork chops are 10 for $20 on sale. How much cheaper do you want it?
Pork production has evolved over the decades to adjust to consumption levels, production costs, grain shortages, labor availability, disease threats, and any number of other influences.
Iowa pork producers will be fine.
This is just "grandstanding" by an aging US Senator who has no business still being in office.
The State of Iowa doesn't want the WH influencing political policy. What Senile Chick is doing is in direct conflict with that approach.
Only he's doing it in reverse.
Screw that old bastard.
Iowa pork producers will be fine.
This is just "grandstanding" by an aging US Senator who has no business still being in office.
The State of Iowa doesn't want the WH influencing political policy. What Senile Chick is doing is in direct conflict with that approach.
Only he's doing it in reverse.
Screw that old bastard.
Iowa GOP pols just blatantly lie. They have no real opposition so they say whatever with no qualms. Iowa has been negatively served by its politicians the past 10 years or so…
I understand Dems are not perfect….but they have been out of office and power for so long, I have forgotten. Branstad, Reynolds, the Grassley and Ernst are willing tools. Iowa is honestly floundering trying to identify itself nowadays.
Pork producers unwilling to conform to the CA standards are essentially losing about 15% of the consumer market. That’s a shock to their market system for sure.
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So nullify the CA voters’ decisions because pork producers prefer to treat their animals horribly?
Don’t you have a hallway in Congress to storm?
