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Gun Safety Classes in Schools? Yea or Nay?

Gun safety classes in school? Good idea or "atrocious to put the onus of gun safety on children"?

  • Yes, this is as good an idea as sex education is.

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Yes, but Kindergarten seems a bit young.

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • Yes, but only because it's voluntary.

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • No, this is a shameless attempt to put the onus of gun safety on children!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Present.

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Total voters
    19
I guess this is just the price we have to pay for the 2nd. Instead of adults being the ones to keep guns out of the hands of kids, we expect kids to do their own safe guarding.
When do accidents happen with guns and kids? That is the not the time to teach the kid about gun safety, do it before hand and you stand a chance of a kid not touching the gun!?

We did our hunter safety class at school - never had an issue with guns or anyone doing stupid shit with them.

Same can be said for "stranger danger" is it the parents fault that stranger may take their kid? Do you oppose the teaching of stay away from strangers?
 
When do accidents happen with guns and kids? That is the not the time to teach the kid about gun safety, do it before hand and you stand a chance of a kid not touching the gun!?

We did our hunter safety class at school - never had an issue with guns or anyone doing stupid shit with them.
Did you miss the part of the article that said that these kinds of classes actually make the problem worse?
 
Okay, do you warn your children no to touch the chain saw?
This is a great point. If a father took his 6 year old out and gave him a chain saw, you would probably be correct to conclude that's not a very smart father. But when he takes the same kid out target shooting, it's considered good family fun.

You were on the right tract talking about guns like cars IMO. No guns until you're 14-16. Get trained and licensed to use them. Get them registered and taxed and well regulated. Require insurance.
 
Wow sounds a lot like liberals with ending sexual morality, easy divorce and trying to fix all the problems that causes with abortion. Yes I totally get the comparison.

For the record on this issue, I'm with you that the NRA is being hypocritical somewhat on this, but on the actual teaching children to stay away from guns, I think that's a no-brainer. I think we should be teaching kids that.

It's not that we are putting the responsibility so much as teaching kids this is the last line of defense against irresponsible adults.
Congrats on working abortion into the thread.
 
This is a great point. If a father took his 6 year old out and gave him a chain saw, you would probably be correct to conclude that's not a very smart father. But when he takes the same kid out target shooting, it's considered good family fun.

You were on the right tract talking about guns like cars IMO. No guns until you're 14-16. Get trained and licensed to use them. Get them registered and taxed and well regulated. Require insurance.

You're against a father teaching his child the correct way to use a chainsaw?
 
On average it doesn't. But on net, it does. Like it or not, but the more households there are with guns, the more accidents there will be because of them.
Everyone I grew up with had weapons in their home (we all hunted) not 1, i repeat not 1 accident - ever. Take a guess as to why? We were educated (at a young age) on the fact you don't play with guns. I know that doesn't sink into your thought process.
 
This is a great point. If a father took his 6 year old out and gave him a chain saw, you would probably be correct to conclude that's not a very smart father. But when he takes the same kid out target shooting, it's considered good family fun.

You were on the right tract talking about guns like cars IMO. No guns until you're 14-16. Get trained and licensed to use them. Get them registered and taxed and well regulated. Require insurance.
Which brings us back to the NRA. If they were about education and safety, they would support these measures. But they don't. Quite the opposite. The NRA opposes practically all regulations including age restrictions and requiring gun safety courses.
 
Did you miss the part of the article that said that these kinds of classes actually make the problem worse?

ONE dubious study. That's hardly definitive proof of anything.

Look, we live in a gun culture. It's nearly impossible to escape imagery of guns. Kids are going to know about them and be attracted to them if they find one. Failing to teach them to "stay away" because we don't want kids to be even more curious is ridiculous.
 
Everyone I grew up with had weapons in their home (we all hunted) not 1, i repeat not 1 accident - ever. Take a guess as to why? We were educated (at a young age) on the fact you don't play with guns. I know that doesn't sink into your thought process.
You sure grew up in a different place than me then. I grew up in rural Iowa. Practically all my friends dads had guns. My family had guns. But I sure don't remember much respect for them. Kids were constantly playing with guns, pointing them at each other, trying to blast squirrels out of trees, shooting hogs.
 
You sure grew up in a different place than me then. I grew up in rural Iowa. Practically all my friends dads had guns. My family had guns. But I sure don't remember much respect for them. Kids were constantly playing with guns, pointing them at each other, trying to blast squirrels out of trees, shooting hogs.
Then maybe you grew up too close to Palo or power lines, I grew up in rural Iowa as well - hunted from age 12 to current, not 1 accident or "hey watch this" moment.

But thanks for the explanation of your childhood - explains A LOT...
 
My younger brother was accidentally shot by a gun. Granted it was a BB gun and it got him on his hand. But it still happened. Kids were constantly jacking around with guns growing up. And the dads weren't much better. I remember going out on hunting trips as a kid and watching the older men pounding beers the whole time.
 
My younger brother was accidentally shot by a gun. Granted it was a BB gun and it got him on his hand. But it still happened. Kids were constantly jacking around with guns growing up. And the dads weren't much better. I remember going out on hunting trips as a kid and watching the older men pounding beers the whole time.

Sounds like Darwinism to me.
 
Did you notice how easily they stated the fire safety rule? Did you note how long it took them to get to the gun rule? That cartoon perfectly illustrates the problem. No one will talk plainly about this because they all are protecting other agendas.
WTF are you talking about? The whole video was geared towards young children about staying away from guns, catchy jingle and all. Did you even watch it all?
 
WTF are you talking about? The whole video was geared towards young children about staying away from guns, catchy jingle and all. Did you even watch it all?
I did, did you? It took 5 seconds to say never play with fire. It took over 2 minutes to muddle the message about guns. Why? Because God forbid the NRA simply say never play with guns.
 
I did, did you? It took 5 seconds to say never play with fire. It took over 2 minutes to muddle the message about guns. Why? Because God forbid the NRA simply say never play with guns.
JFC 99% of the video was telling the kids to NEVER PLAY WITH GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you expect the National RIFLE Association to teach fire safety too.
natural you're not this effing stupid. Just stop!
 
JFC 99% of the video was telling the kids to NEVER PLAY WITH GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you expect the National RIFLE Association to teach fire safety too.
natural you're not this effing stupid. Just stop!
Nope, most of the video was spent not delivering that message. In fact they went out of their way to never say what you just did. They could have, but they wanted to spin it. I don't think you watched the video.
 
Nope, most of the video was spent not delivering that message. In fact they went out of their way to never say what you just did. They could have, but they wanted to spin it. I don't think you watched the video.
As bad as I hate to say this I will anyway. You've gone full retard here.
 
As bad as I hate to say this I will anyway. You've gone full retard here.
When you don't have the facts,
Ya make personal attacks

When you don't have the facts,
Ya make personal attacks

Sing that to your little tune. That's catchier than anything the NRA served up and it didn't take me almost 3 minutes to get to the punch line.
 
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