Hard data confirms what many of us have been warning: the American right is actively embracing authoritarianism

[Scruddy]

Lolol

 

[Tom Paris]

Told me what?

You said Trump was Hitler, that we live in 1930’s Germany and democracy has ended.

I still don’t think that’s true, because it isn’t.

Well again you’re wrong. Where did I say Trump is Hitler? My exact words? You’re STILL going to hold onto democracy isn’t in trouble? Project 2025 is a red herring!! Take a breath. Every part of American democracy is under attack and you continue to act like this is normal. SMH.

 

[Tom Paris]

Then don’t use him as the bar. Pretty simple.

^^^^^
Thinks Hitler started killing Jews on day one.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Well we don't live in Germany.

I know. I wasn’t the one making the comparison.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

^^^^^
Thinks Hitler started killing Jews on day one.

Thanks for immediately confirming your Hitler comparison 😂😂

 

[Tom Paris]

Thanks for immediately confirming your Hitler comparison 😂😂

Thanks for once again proving you don’t understand nuance. 🤣🤣 Most obtuse person on the board.

 

[BelemNole]

Thanks for once again proving you don’t understand nuance. 🤣🤣 Most INTENTIONALLY obtuse person on the board.

FIFY

 

[the24fan]

This should be a humorous thread

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Thanks for once again proving you don’t understand nuance. 🤣🤣 Most obtuse person on the board.

Yes, nuanced people use Hitler comparisons.

Nailed it 🤣

 

[Tom Paris]

FIFY

He’s a complete joke.

 

[Tom Paris]

Yes, nuanced people use Hitler comparisons.

Nailed it 🤣

Tripling down on obtuseness. Adorable. A poster above was right…you choose it. I feel sorry for you.

 

[Tom Paris]

 

[Hawki97]

You can convince me "hitman" is an asshole, but that's not a "gimp" personality type. Northern, the guy who you all say beats his wife.... not likely a gimp. I'll let you decide on youe current relationship with God before using that word with someone like me. I think you see what I'm going for. Now, run some of the other usual suspects through that litmus test.

LOL!

H4aD level Internet tough guying on HORT?!

Et tu whiskey?!

I am disappoint. I’m chalking it up to case of the Mondays.

 

[Joes Place]

I read something today that said the LA hi speed rail project was on pace, and that pace would take over 150 years to complete.


I'm fully willing to admit there has been more "ready, shoot, aim" than I would prefer but anyone who is being honest knows if the government operated on government timeliness to complete these task it would never get completed. So yeah, this surgery is going to be ugly.



Also, the gimp thing, kinda weird bro, I don't kink shame but I would encourage you to remember that when I started a thread regarding the negative aspects of toxic feminism, many of the same people who "liked" your post, were incapable of discussion.

You can convince me "hitman" is an asshole, but that's not a "gimp" personality type. Northern, the guy who you all say beats his wife.... not likely a gimp. I'll let you decide on youe current relationship with God before using that word with someone like me. I think you see what I'm going for. Now, run some of the other usual suspects through that litmus test.

Gimp.

 

[bcherod]

American "conservatives" are now much more aligned in their thinking with the populace and politicians of places like Turkey, Russia and Hungary than our former peers in Western Europe, Canada, Australia and other liberal democracies.

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​ ​ View in browser New Data: Republican Voters Want Authoritarianism​ ​ Inside the World Values Survey.​ Jonathan V. Last Mar 10 ​ ​ ​ ​ 1. Values Voters​ Why did a plurality of voters choose Trump? The question is a Rorschach. The most complete answer is that voters chose him for all the reasons. Seventy-seven million people voted for the guy. No matter what basket of reasons you want to come up with, there is a bucket of voters who chose Trump based on them.¹ So I want to preface today’s conversation by emphasizing that the answer isn’t either/or. It’s and/both. That said: One of my theories about the last eight years is that a growing number of Americans have become not just tolerant of, but affirmatively for, authoritarianism. The corollary being: In 2024, some significant portion of voters chose Trump not in spite of his explicitly authoritarian program but because of it. Today we have some hard data to support this theory. Republican voters have—objectively—become more fascist and authoritarian in their values and political preferences. Last week the Financial Times published an extraordinary piece by John Burn-Murdoch.² He looked at data from the most recent World Values Survey and found that Republican voters in America have changed their outlook in recent years. They no longer want their country to be liberal. They want it to be illiberal. Here’s Burn-Murdoch: You have to see the data to believe it: ​ ​ I want you think about this—and I mean really think about it: Republicans aren’t just closer in worldview to Turkey and Russia than they are to Democrats. The right-wing European parties are closer to Democrats than they are to Republicans. Let me give you some context. The World Values Survey is a battery of questions designed to get at people’s social outlook. Do they trust institutions? Do they tolerate corruption? How central is politics to their identity? You can look at the Wave 8 questionnaire here. Some sample questions:​ ​ ​ Please sit with this again: In responses to questions like these, Republican answers lined up neatly with the answers from Turks and Russians and were close to answers from people in China. I do not know any way to assimilate this data except to propose that many Republicans chose Trump because they heard his authoritarian pitch, believed it, and voted for him to implement it. As for how manyRepublican voters operated this way, based on this data the most likely answer is: More than you previously thought.

It’s this mentality that has forced many long time Republicans to be RATs, RINOs and Independents.