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Harreld offers first message on why he came to Iowa

Most of his peers have been involved in academics and/or large public institutions at sometime in their resume.....THat's how one "trains" for such a position.....
Look Todd, I wish the guy all the luck in the world..after all he is President of a school I care a lot about.....I just think that those responsible for the decision could have been a little bit more honest in their endeavor. The BoR and Branstad flat-assed lied to the people of Iowa and the faculty and staff of the U of Iowa. For what reason? We will never be told. That is BS.

Are you following the thread? Menace mentioned payroll, HR, and similar matters being the issue. Do you believe the only way to get this training is by being CEO or having worked in education?
 
Are you following the thread? Menace mentioned payroll, HR, and similar matters being the issue. Do you believe the only way to get this training is by being CEO or having worked in education?
That is NOT the issue. The issue is more with the interpretation of "shared governance"...the relationship between faculty, staff, administratrion and the BoR and Governor. In this case (which is by no means an isolated case), the Governor and BoR spoke with forked tongue. Unfortunately, Harreld is the "point man" for the BoR and Teflon. He was hired to be the President, not their whipping boy.
 
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It seems like the new guy is trying his best to build bridges so an effective relationship between himself and the academic faculty can forged HOWEVER it doesn't seem like the other side even wants to try to meet him even half way to make the relationship work. Does the faculty really think they are going to change a decision that the regents made unanimously for their guy?

No one knows yet...this guy might be the greatest President the university has ever had but that can't happen without the faculty at the very least hearing the guy out and letting him lead as he has been hired to.
That drivel was written by a publicist.

Harreld might end up being just fine as Iowa's president, but don't for a minute believe there are going to be huge dramatic changes that will drastically alter the focus of the university.
 
That drivel was written by a publicist.

Harreld might end up being just fine as Iowa's president, but don't for a minute believe there are going to be huge dramatic changes that will drastically alter the focus of the university.
Your point is. Maybe there needs to be change
 
So, he's still issuing statements and meeting with people privately. More and more he doesn't impress me. A big time executive tackles issues head on. Harreld is in hiding.
 
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Your point is. Maybe there needs to be change

Perhaps....but then again, maybe there is no need for change at the present. The BoR needs to be a wee bit more transparent....unless they are under a gag order from the governor's office. But Terry is soooo transparent...and certainly would never use his office to choose "winners and losers"...because he has said so.
 
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I didn't say anything about your opinion.

You're just not a very intelligent person.

It's probably not your fault.

Stick with topics more to your intellectual level like the debate of American fries vs. hash browns.
And you can tell all of that from some posts on a message board . God I admire you. You are a very impressive individual. I bet you have some outstanding credentials .
 
That is probably true but what does the constant defiance accomplish at this point in the game? The guy isn't going to be unhired at this point so both sides should start out now with a clean slate to make the best of a rocky start.
Why is it so hard for people to figure out that what many of the faculty are looking for is acknowledgment from the BoR that they fvcked up the presidential search?
The people who think the consternation is only about Harreld's lack of appropriate qualifications are simply ignorant of the situation.

The Board of Regents are solely responsible for the less than amicable start of Harreld's tenure.
 
Why is it so hard for people to figure out that what many of the faculty are looking for is acknowledgment from the BoR that they fvcked up the presidential search?
The people who think the consternation is only about Harreld's lack of appropriate qualifications are simply ignorant of the situation.

The Board of Regents are solely responsible for the less than amicable start of Harreld's tenure.


I think this is the whole mess as it lays out today. The faculty and staff understand they have NO SAY in what happens. They just want some of "their bosses" to fess up. I understand 100% the frustration of the UI faculty. If that would happen to any of "the defenders" here, they would be screaming bloody murder.
 
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One would think the man would meet with some of the more outspoken faculty members like Kembrew McCleod who wrote an article in Slate ripping the hiring. Who exactly is he meeting with in the faculty?
 
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So if the hospital execs like the guy, and the academics don't like the guy, whose vote matters most?
Don't for a second think he's a favorite among the clinicians in the hospital. Frankly, it doesn't help his cause if Robillard is in his corner. Robillard's not exactly buddy-buddy with the majority of us who are both clinicians and scientists. There's a significant number of us who see Robillard as nothing more than a politician despite his medical background.
 
Your point is. Maybe there needs to be change
Because you appear to be intellectually limited I'll try to make it easy for you to understand. The point is NOT about Harreld's non-traditional background of a university presidential candidate.
The point is about the Board of Regents parading 3 eminently qualified candidates for public forums and then 1 who they knew would not be well regarded among the faculty. Then they had the gall to ask for input only to completely disregard the input.

Then, for Rastetter to act surprised when the faculty decides to voice their disapproval of hiring someone they didn't want in the first place shows just what an asshole he truly is.

I realize this is probably too sophisticated for you to understand, but that's okay.
 
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Because you appear to be intellectually limited I'll try to make it easy for you to understand. The point is NOT about Harreld's non-traditional background of a university presidential candidate.
The point is about the Board of Regents parading 3 eminently qualified candidates for public forums and then 1 who they knew would not be well regarded among the faculty. Then they had the gall to ask for input only to completely disregard the input.

Then, for Rastetter to act surprised when the faculty decides to voice their disapproval of hiring someone they didn't want in the first place shows just what an asshole he truly is.

I realize this is probably too sophisticated for you to understand, but that's okay.

What is it that's causing him to not be well regarded or wanted in the first place if it's not his non-traditional background?
 
Because you appear to be intellectually limited I'll try to make it easy for you to understand. The point is NOT about Harreld's non-traditional background of a university presidential candidate.
The point is about the Board of Regents parading 3 eminently qualified candidates for public forums and then 1 who they knew would not be well regarded among the faculty. Then they had the gall to ask for input only to completely disregard the input.

Then, for Rastetter to act surprised when the faculty decides to voice their disapproval of hiring someone they didn't want in the first place shows just what an asshole he truly is.

I realize this is probably too sophisticated for you to understand, but that's okay.
No, that was an excellent and simple summary of events. Me brain thanky.
 
I think this is the whole mess as it lays out today. The faculty and staff understand they have NO SAY in what happens. They just want some of "their bosses" to fess up. I understand 100% the frustration of the UI faculty. If that would happen to any of "the defenders" here, they would be screaming bloody murder.

Great....but when do they plan to move on?
 
Great....but when do they plan to move on?
When they feel they have had their day in court. Some may never. This move by the BoR has set UIowa back in the eyes of the acadmics...and like it or not, they all talk with eachother and it will not be easy for UIowa to recruit outstanding intellectuals to the campus for teaching OR research.
Your position is reminds me of the old saying, "Until morale improves, the beatings will continue."
 
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How long before Harreld gets into an ugly public exchange with some of the faculty?

One thing this won't be is boring.
 
[QUOkelucas80, post: 975776, member: 9608"]So, he's still issuing statements and meeting with people privately. More and more he doesn't impress me. A big time executive tackles issues head on. Harreld is in hiding.[/QUOTE]
you keep saying this over and over.

HE HASN'T STARTED WORK YET YOU FRICKING MORON.
 
When they feel they have had their day in court. Some may never. This move by the BoR has set UIowa back in the eyes of the acadmics...and like it or not, they all talk with eachother and it will not be easy for UIowa to recruit outstanding intellectuals to the campus for teaching OR research.
Your position is reminds me of the old saying, "Until morale improves, the beatings will continue."
then they should leave. or run for public office and change things.
 
[QUOkelucas80, post: 975776, member: 9608"]So, he's still issuing statements and meeting with people privately. More and more he doesn't impress me. A big time executive tackles issues head on. Harreld is in hiding.
you keep saying this over and over.

HE HASN'T STARTED WORK YET YOU FRICKING MORON.[/QUOTE]

He claims he has been meeting with all kinds of people, but no names. He hasn't met with some of the most vocal opponents. So what has been going on? I don't even think he has been in IC that much.

I wrote him an e-mail as an alum and UI contributor and he didn't answer that. I dont expect anything special, but some sort of response might be good. Barta has responded.
 
What is it that's causing him to not be well regarded or wanted in the first place if it's not his non-traditional background?
Well, for one thing he made enough errors on his resume that would:

A. Cause someone to be fired if found out after they were hired.

B. Prevent them from being a candidate for a job even at an entry level position.
 
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At this point in the process I would feel a whole lot more comfortable with his hire if Bruce actually put for details of how he intends to improve the University rather than just giving us generalized statements of how great Iowa is. Makes me wonder if he has any specific plans at all?

He did. He is going to listen and collaborate.

Why are you wishing so hard for him to be a dictator?
 
[Dude, TE="joelbc1, post: 977243, member: 9268"]No, they shouldn't. The Governor and the BoR needed to be a bit more forthcoming about who they desired to appoint. Both the BoR and Branstad lied, deceived and misled the folks they should have been working closely with on this issue.[/QUOTE]

dude, THEY ARE IN CHARGE BECAUSE THEY WERE ELECTED OR APPOINTED BY ELECTED LEADERS. if you didn't like the process, too bad. the people crying are upset at the outcome despite crying about the process. had they picked any of the other three, they would be praising the "Shared Governance" concept. just because the Regents liked a different finalist more doesn't mean they are corrupt.

damn it, I really don't care for Terry but your agenda makes it hard not to defend him.
 
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