I've heard from a buddy who got tickets that a lot of the individuals who were able to buy tickets from the university have bought 8 and have only kept a few and are selling the rest on Stub Hub for 4 X the face value to pay for their trips. This is the problem when you let people who have only had two tickets buy 8. You end up screwing over people like loyal alums that have bought season tickets for over a decade.
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Except you are pretending that these people aren't loyal alums. Have you looked to see why they qualify for 8 tickets instead of 2?
Sure, it is all about money. I get your complaint, but goddamn, how many of these will you post? Supply and demand sucks when you are on the demand side of short supply.
Sure, it is all about money. I get your complaint, but goddamn, how many of these will you post? Supply and demand sucks when you are on the demand side of short supply.
This is really no different than what happens to all bowl games. The same thing happened for the championship game. Don't forget that this isn't an Iowa fan thing, ALL teams have fans that do this. It sucks but that's life.
It the ticket office isn't going to begin confirming orders until December 14 . . .how would anyone know they got any? Let alone 8 with spares for StubHub? Double secret ticket confirmation society or something?
I think the people that are able to order 8 already know they are going to get the tickets because they have so many points. If you have the ability to request 8 then you have a crap load of points.
The main problem is that the University misgauged the demand. So they allowed more tickets to be allotted for the higher tiers. I was told that they initially assumed all season ticket holders would be able to get their allotment if they wanted to go due to the 22,000 tickets available.
It isn't like they want people turning around and selling the tickets on StubHub, they just didn't anticipate the demand.
It isn't like they want people turning around and selling the tickets on StubHub, they just didn't anticipate the demand.
Yeah there are already people that know they have tickets. I know one of these people who got 8 and gave them all to his kids and grandkids.
Okay, seriously....is Ol' Doodle the only person who opened this thread expecting it to be about something entirely different.
This might just be a flop on the university's part. But they already have a lot of pissed off season ticket holders that have been loyal for over a decade that have been told to trust this point system becasue it will benefit them in times like this. Instead the University with 22,000 tickets only rewarded the very top tiers and not only that those tiers can profit of this as well.
Exactly!Okay, seriously....is Ol' Doodle the only person who opened this thread expecting it to be about something entirely different.
I'm every bit as frustrated. I've already booked travel and accommodations. I'll find myself some tickets, but it is disappointing that I likely won't be able to get them through the UI ticket office. That being said, it is what it is. I don't think UI wants to see season ticket holders lose out on tickets because others overbuy and sell them on marked up StubHub.
B.S. To have access to 8 tickets you have to be a HUGE donor. In which case you don't need to sell tickets to finance the trip. In fact you're probably just giving them to friends.
So the theory here is that people who donate at a high level are going to be scalping their tickets? Not likely.
Giving to friends and relatives? Of course.
Okay, seriously....is Ol' Doodle the only person who opened this thread expecting it to be about something entirely different.
I would bang the shit out of that lady. I would even do it in a port a potty at a carnival if she wanted.
To the OP, the rich get richer. That is the law of the land. They will pay for their trips off the backs of the poor. We need a ticket holders union.
Really you don't think people would buy more then what they need only to sell what they dont need so they can pay for their expenses? I work with rich people everyday. How do you think they became rich?
Even if its people buying 4, 6 or 8 tickets right now and giving them to friends or family that are not season ticket holders don't you think thats a bit wrong of the U to do? Now when its very likely decades long season ticket holders are going to be left out.
I always buy mine from the private circut and luckily this year I bought mine back before they announced the bowls. I've been to about half the bowls in the last 20 years and I can tell you the U knows what kind of demad they are going to have. This year they dropped the ball for a lot of their most loyal season ticket holders.
You live in America. He can buy those tickets and light them on fire if he wants to.
There is no way to make everyone happy. The ticket office is in a no-win situation.
Where were all you assholes when we couldn't sell out Maryland and Purdue? Literal fair weather fans.
Where were all you assholes when we couldn't sell out Maryland and Purdue? Literal fair weather fans.
These are the same people that made the same donation last year (and many other years) for that crappy season, so it seems fair that if they had the fortitude to make that donation again going into this season, they should reap the rewards. Too many people want to jump in when its good and duck out when its not.
I think its funny you believe the largest donors the UofI has are out scalping their extra tickets to earn a few bucks. The University can't please everyone, especially those that don't donate at the top tiers. You have tickets, so what are you crying about again? Its a simple case of supply and demand, if people want to sell tickets to finance their trip because ticket prices are through the roof, so be it. The world isn't fair all the time and you can't please 80,000 Iowa fans that would be willing to go when the school only has 22,000 tickets available.
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I agree. I just feel bad for all the people who have been loyal season ticket holders for well over decade and will be left out becasue the very system that was told will help them wont be helping them becasue too many tickets were given to the top so those people could either sell them or give them to people who might only attend 1 game or less a year. Pretty crappy considering your avg joe who has bought season tickets for years cant get 1 or 2 of 22,000 tickets.
I agree with you 100% and carry that attitude with me in my life. However this is a little different. The university could have done a better job to ensure that most of the season ticket holders would end up with an option to buy their own number of season tickets. But the way its ending up over half of season ticket holders are being left out cold and that includes people that have had season tickets for 10 plus years. I'm hearing less then 25% of season ticket holders will even end up with the option to buy. That number could have been closer to 75%.
how many season ticket holder are there, conservatively 40,000? there are only 22,000 tickets available overall...do the math, if you limit the purchase to a max of 2 that is only going to accommodate 25% of the season ticket holders. Then you have to allow for purchase of greater than 2 to your big time donors and so...so of course half the season ticket holders are going to be left out in the cold, its not that difficult to understand. Yes, that includes folks that may have had season tickets for over 10 years. Not every season ticket holder donates an amount to move the needle, just enough to have the option to get tickets, to expect anything more seems silly.
I've been a Denver Bronco season ticket holder for over a decade and I can't even get a parking pass despite requesting one every year. Oh well, I'm not going to cry and whine about it. Again, you have tickets, I'm not sure what your outrage is after your numerous posts in this thread. Some folks will blame the University and AD department for anything and everything, even if its not their fault. Red pom poms at the Wisconsin game...their fault. Having a limited number of tickets to the game with the highest demand in a quarter century...not their fault. Seems simple.
What you have just described sounds very smart. If they're asking too much, nobody will buy them. If they're taking advantage of a market to pay for their trip, good for them. I'll keep working hard to someday be able to contribute at the same level and be in that position.
Or I could complain, which is much easier come to think of it.
Ahh hell youre right. Still doesnt make what the University is doing right. At most the top guys should have only been able to buy 1 or two extra tickets and then all other season ticket holders the chance to buy their ticket. With all the season ticket holders that wouldnt have gone or couldnt afford to go you would have been closer to seeing 60% of season ticket holders with atleast an option to get them instead of at most 25%.
The world is for the rich right now but that doesnt mean middle class people should be feeding both the rich and the poor.
The "U" isn't the one doing it, they are simply rewarding the highest/longer-highest donors. Look, I get your frustration, but as has been discussed above, there is no "good" way to do it. If they limit it to 1 ticket per account people would be pissed, likewise for four if you were taking your family (wife, kids) who attended every single game.
The idea we can/should figure out who actually attends game is naively absurd. I attended every game.
How do you determine what is "extra"? I presume you mean that, if they have 2 seats they get two tickets. What if they have a block of 20 seats to every game?
Even IF they offer it to "All" season ticket holders, people are being left out. Literally no way to make everyone happy.
Here is the thing, longevity just isn't coveted. Sure that is unfortunate, unless you are one of the "new" guys. Think Auger has been a ticket holder for decades? Surely not, I'll bet just a season or two. Would it be more "fair" to him if it went with longevity? Of course not, then he would complain that his money counts just as much as an old farts.
You get 3 points/year of purchase ..... no matter how many tickets you get, that is per account (iirc). So a guy with three decades of attendance gets a whopping 90 points. BUT, included with that is the aggregate donation level, 1 point per $100. So if that 30 year ticket holder never donated (end zone seats), they would still be around 90. If they had $400 level seats (pretending it went back 30 years) on 2 seats they would add 240 points (right?). So longevity simply isn't coveted, money is .... welcome to America.
What is the real travesty is that a varsity letterwinner gets a whopping 20 points, the equivalent of a $2,000 donation. That is pathetic.
Middle class america runs the country. They just havent realized it yet. Instead of becoming the person that controls the machine they still allow themselves to be the machine.
Im not a season ticket holder. I live well outside Iowa. I come back for a game a year and most of the time the bowl game. I dont bother with buying tickets from the university. Do I donate to the U, yes but not to the athletic dept. I'll take care of myself when it comes to getting tickets and I have. I feel bad for all the loyal Hawks out there that have waited 25 years to go to the Rose and are either getting priced out or left out by the U. You won't convince me that Iowa couldnt have done better at extended their 22,000 tickets to meet more tiers of Hawkeye season ticket holders. They could have had a more even cap on the number of tickets some people could buy.
That;s why next year for the Big Ten Championship. I am going to buy 10 tickets when they go on sale August 1st. If Iowa doesn't make it, i will sell them for face value to whoever wants them.
If Iowa makes it, I will keep my 5 and sell the rest to some loyal hawk fans for face value. I do not need to make money off of tickets, that's what jobs are for. But regardless I am buying those tickets when they go on sale (I'm sure I will be fighting all the B10East fans). But Its makes sense to do it that way, rather than wait for the flipping ticket office. They will screw you even worse.
If Iowa makes it, I will keep my 5 and sell the rest to some loyal hawk fans for face value. I do not need to make money off of tickets, that's what jobs are for. But regardless I am buying those tickets when they go on sale (I'm sure I will be fighting all the B10East fans). But Its makes sense to do it that way, rather than wait for the flipping ticket office. They will screw you even worse.
Yeah I realize that, but hell at face their only 70 dollars. Next year if Iowa makes it, it will be a sell-out. If Iowa doesn't make it, the team that does make it will travel well (or at least the Big 10 East team) will.
Regardless I am buying them ahead of time, I am not waiting around for StubHub or the Iowa Athletic Ticket Office.
They guy we bought our tickets from this year made almost 500$ off of selling us his tickets. And they were the cheap tickets. I will try and get some lower bowl ones that will sell for sure.
And if all else fails, hell I go to Indy again. That was a blast and would go back!
