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Im not a season ticket holder. I live well outside Iowa. I come back for a game a year and most of the time the bowl game. I dont bother with buying tickets from the university. Do I donate to the U, yes but not to the athletic dept. I'll take care of myself when it comes to getting tickets and I have. I feel bad for all the loyal Hawks out there that have waited 25 years to go to the Rose and are either getting priced out or left out by the U. You won't convince me that Iowa couldnt have done better at extended their 22,000 tickets to meet more tiers of Hawkeye season ticket holders. They could have had a more even cap on the number of tickets some people could buy.

Pray tell: Why shouldn't a person in your exact situation get tickets from the University? You seem to think you should be affirmatively barred.

Are you less of a fan than I am?
 
Gave them to his kids and grandkids? What an a-hole!!!

Haha never siad he was an a-hole. I only know this because I'm friends with one of the grandkids who happens to live far from Iowa City and hasnt been to a game since the Orange Bowl. But hey atleast I get to party with him again at a Hawkeye Bowl game!
 
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Pray tell: Why shouldn't a person in your exact situation get tickets from the University? You seem to think you should be affirmatively barred.

Are you less of a fan than I am?

When it comes to the bowl games I just always buy right away from a ticket distributor. I dont wait for the u to sort it all out. I like to make reservations and get everything done within minutes of the bowl announcement. You can't really do that when you go through Iowa and have everything done within minutes.

Two of my friends were going to come to the Rose as well. After we found out we got the Rose Bowl, tickets went from $250 to $350 my buddies who both have close to 100pts decided not to pay that much where the seats would be just ahead of mine becasue they could get half the price from the U about a day later amongst all the confusion at Iowa they found out they would not make the cutoff. By that time tickets were starting around $600 and just like that they went from having their whole family going to not going at all.
 
When it comes to the bowl games I just always buy right away from a ticket distributor. I dont wait for the u to sort it all out. I like to make reservations and get everything done within minutes of the bowl announcement. You can't really do that when you go through Iowa and have everything done within minutes.

Two of my friends were going to come to the Rose as well. After we found out we got the Rose Bowl, tickets went from $250 to $350 my buddies who both have close to 100pts decided not to pay that much where the seats would be just ahead of mine becasue they could get half the price from the U about a day later amongst all the confusion at Iowa they found out they would not make the cutoff. By that time tickets were starting around $600 and just like that they went from having their whole family going to not going at all.

I'm confused. Your buddies (presumably still season ticket holders) with 100+ points are under the impression they wont make the cutoff? From the sounds of it, nearly all season ticket holders will get tickets to the RB. Caution: I'm about to attempt mathematics. Continue at your own risk..

I was listening to KXNO today and I believe it was Chad Liestikow (DSM Register) that said, of the 40+ thousand requests, a little over 24,000 ticket requests were from season ticket holders. Assuming every season ticket holder requests at least 2 tickets (because seriously, who requests 1 ticket), there will be approximately 1000 season ticket holders that don't make the cut. Now, I don't have hard numbers on the make-up of Iowa season ticket holders, but I'm guessing there are at least 1000 people to request RB tickets that have become season ticket holders in the past few years that make zero donations.

I could be wrong in my interpretation of the numbers, but I'm confident that Liestikow affirmed that of the 22,000 ticket allotment, ~24,000 tickets were requested by season ticket holders. My guess is that your buddies with 100 points, if they're still season ticket holders, will be fine. They still have until tomorrow to put in for their tickets, tell them to get on it.
 
I-Club members who are not season ticket holders also get seats, so they add on to that 24,000 number you cite.
 
The main problem is that the University misgauged the demand. So they allowed more tickets to be allotted for the higher tiers. I was told that they initially assumed all season ticket holders would be able to get their allotment if they wanted to go due to the 22,000 tickets available.

It isn't like they want people turning around and selling the tickets on StubHub, they just didn't anticipate the demand.

This is what the ticket office said yesterday. My secretary called once & got right through.
 
I-Club members who are not season ticket holders also get seats, so they add on to that 24,000 number you cite.

That very well could be, though I do specifically recall hearing ~24,000 was the amount of season ticket holders...

Sorry, it's been a while since I've seen the "rules." Do season ticket holders (at any level), get priority over I-Club members who aren't season ticket holders?
 
I posted this in the other thread, but I will post it here for clarity:

DM Register seems to say:

24,500 of the 43,000 are actually eligible. The others, regardless of priority points are not.
All student season ticket holders who request one will get one
They may get more tickets from the RB.

That also, logically, appears to be for tickets, not requests. So there are 2,500 eligible tickets that would be turned down (as of that moment).

And to answer your question, no it doesn't appear that season ticket holders get priority over I-Club.
 
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I posted this in the other thread, but I will post it here for clarity:

DM Register seems to say:

24,500 of the 43,000 are actually eligible. The others, regardless of priority points are not.
All student season ticket holders who request one will get one
They may get more tickets from the RB.

That also, logically, appears to be for tickets, not requests. So there are 2,500 eligible tickets that would be turned down (as of that moment).

And to answer your question, no it doesn't appear that season ticket holders get priority over I-Club.

That makes me feel a lot more confident. The 150 number might be for additional ticket requests... A guy can hope at least
 
Maybe I'm out of touch, but isn't scalping tickets illegal? I understand that selling a $70 ticket for $100 isn't worth law enforecement's time, but $70 tickets are being sold for $500+!
 
I posted this in the other thread, but I will post it here for clarity:

DM Register seems to say:

24,500 of the 43,000 are actually eligible. The others, regardless of priority points are not.
All student season ticket holders who request one will get one
They may get more tickets from the RB.

That also, logically, appears to be for tickets, not requests. So there are 2,500 eligible tickets that would be turned down (as of that moment).

And to answer your question, no it doesn't appear that season ticket holders get priority over I-Club.

Why should each student ticket holder have a right to one over long time season ticket holders/donors? Or any alum for that matter
 
I agree with you 100% and carry that attitude with me in my life. However this is a little different. The university could have done a better job to ensure that most of the season ticket holders would end up with an option to buy their own number of season tickets. But the way its ending up over half of season ticket holders are being left out cold and that includes people that have had season tickets for 10 plus years. I'm hearing less then 25% of season ticket holders will even end up with the option to buy. That number could have been closer to 75%.
Please explain how that would work with 22,000 tickets available?
 
What is the real travesty is that a varsity letterwinner gets a whopping 20 points, the equivalent of a $2,000 donation. That is pathetic.

My wife is a letter winner at Notre Dame. They have a great program. Guarantees the ability to get season tickets to every game. Doesn't matter if you're fresh out and there is a "wait list" for season tickets. You don't get to select seats but you get in the building. I dropped my tickets this year so not complaining. The choice was 70% based on the fact I couldn't make it to any home games this season due to work and 30% based on being sick of the product on the field. I don't really have a horse in the Rose Bowl ticket race. I think a simple solution is to only allow you to buy the number of bowl tickets corresponding to the number of season tickets you have. Start at the highest point level and move down. That would be the "fairest" rather then letting everyone buy eight tickets. When tickets are out then they are out.
 
Why should each student ticket holder have a right to one over long time season ticket holders/donors? Or any alum for that matter

Well there does need to be a block of tickets allotted for students. It would be unfortunate if no students were able to go because they're forced to go to the secondary market.
 
Why should each student ticket holder have a right to one over long time season ticket holders/donors? Or any alum for that matter

Right now student attendance is dropping across the nation. This is an investment in the future. If that student gets hooked on hawkeye football then may be they will get season tickets. Besides, how many students do you think can afford the airfare and hotel? Singles don't sell well in the scalping market. My guess is the number of students at the game will be very limited.
 
Good lord there is some whining on this thread. Kinnick Society is the cut off for 8 tickets, logic should tell you there isn't a problem here. Even if you don't get tickets from the University you can scalp them for far, far less then these people paid to be at that level. I have 8 tickets and can request 2, in no system outside of mother Russia should I be allotted more tickets than a Kinnick Society member.
 
Why should each student ticket holder have a right to one over long time season ticket holders/donors? Or any alum for that matter

Wow, I'm surprised by this. Of course students should get tickets, both over season ticket holders and most certainly over alumni. Alumni are simply students who are no longer students who don't have season tickets, so obviously they should be above them, because these are season ticket holders the others aren't.

Even more obviously these are students attending the University of Iowa ... the school whose football team is playing ... with players who are students. Honestly I don't know how to say this any other way. If students don't have some sort of priority it might as well be a pro football team.
 
This outrage is silly. The UI kicked long team season ticket holders a while ago when they instituted the points system. Guess what that has got them today? 60,000 people showing up for games. Its a 2 ways street. Sometimes it works for the UI, sometimes it doesn't.
 
This outrage is silly. The UI kicked long team season ticket holders a while ago when they instituted the points system. Guess what that has got them today? 60,000 people showing up for games. Its a 2 ways street. Sometimes it works for the UI, sometimes it doesn't.

The priority point system did not "get them" 60,000 people showing up. The priority point system came at the beginning of a long sellout streak, and continued to sell out (mostly) for over a decade.

Lots of things led to 60,000 people, it wasn't the priority points.
 
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There is no way to make everyone happy. The ticket office is in a no-win situation.

Where were all you assholes when we couldn't sell out Maryland and Purdue? Literal fair weather fans.
I couldn't give my seats away for the Purdue game. I have no problem with people who support the program selling for a nice profit.
 
The priority point system did not "get them" 60,000 people showing up. The priority point system came at the beginning of a long sellout streak, and continued to sell out (mostly) for over a decade.

Lots of things led to 60,000 people, it wasn't the priority points.

Was it the only reason? No. However it made some difference. You kicked some people who were long time season ticket holders who had them on the 30-40 yard lines to the curb when they could not pony up enough. I am not saying that is right or wrong. Its fine when you are winning big, but you make your ticket demand more elastic.

I dropped mine before this last year, and I had enough points that would have gotten me Rose Bowl tickets. I still do not regret it. I went to every game this year for far less and I had a connection for RB tickets.
 
I dropped mine before this last year, and I had enough points that would have gotten me Rose Bowl tickets. I still do not regret it. I went to every game this year for far less and I had a connection for RB tickets.

Congratulations?
 
Was it the only reason? No. However it made some difference. You kicked some people who were long time season ticket holders who had them on the 30-40 yard lines to the curb when they could not pony up enough. I am not saying that is right or wrong. Its fine when you are winning big, but you make your ticket demand more elastic.

I dropped mine before this last year, and I had enough points that would have gotten me Rose Bowl tickets. I still do not regret it. I went to every game this year for far less and I had a connection for RB tickets.

Except you have no way to show it made a difference. After priority points were instituted attendance actually improved and remained steady for a decade.

Before priority points a whole half of the field on the west side was students ... so it actually allowed MORE people to have those great seats you are barking about.

The ticket demand became elastic with 4 straight years of angst.

I'm not saying the priority points was the best thing ever, just that it isn't the reason that we had 60,000 people this year. It wasn't.
 
It didn't say it was THE reason...its A reason....there are many factors. The demand is more elastic. When things are going great it goes ok, then when they don't people are less willing to be loyal. Loyalty is a two way street.
 
Attendance is trending down nationwide. It may coincide with every university going toward seat licenses. It may just be that every game is televised now. As one of my friends explained for what he paid to attend each Iowa game with seat license, ticket price, parking, lodging, and gas he could just buy a 50 inch t.v. each time.

Giving tickets to every student who wants to go is smart long term planning. I know a bunch of poor college students who were able to go in 91 who are now donors.

And I doubt there are Kinnick Club members who are selling tickets on stubhub. If I would have had to arrange for tickets, I would have made a list of "Who Do I Know With the Most Points", talked to them, and if they already had all their tickets spoken for I would have moved to number 2.

Of course, I had that conversation with people after the Indiana game, cause it did not matter where Iowa plays, I am going to be there.

The frustrating part about this game is that it involves people that have not been to an Iowa game since the last RB, but still complaining about capitalism working seems silly.
 
I woke up this morning with complete understanding that life isn't fair sometimes. I would think that applies to Rose Bowl tickets, too.

If I'm the U of I ticket office, coming off a season that will go down in Iowa football history as one of the greatest ever - with exactly one home sellout in the books, I sell every goddam ticket to a game 2000 miles away I can legally do, and I don't give two shits about whether people get left out of the mix because someone with the proper qualifications to do so comes in and wants 8 tickets.

I sell the tickets, and lose zero sleep over it.
 
I agree. I just feel bad for all the people who have been loyal season ticket holders for well over decade and will be left out becasue the very system that was told will help them wont be helping them becasue too many tickets were given to the top so those people could either sell them or give them to people who might only attend 1 game or less a year. Pretty crappy considering your avg joe who has bought season tickets for years cant get 1 or 2 of 22,000 tickets.


You must be devastated for me then. We've had season tickets since 1977.

For the record, I understand demand & supply and am not upset one iota about not getting my 2 for the bowl.
 
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You must be devastated for me then. We've had season tickets since 1977.

For the record, I understand demand & supply and am not upset one iota about not getting my 2 for the bowl.


Wait, how many points do you have? Since 77 and you couldn't get tickets?
 
It happens everywhere.
This is the reason the Houston Texans put more fans in Jerry World for Texans @ Cowboys. Cowboy season ticket holders finance the season by selling tickets to visiting fans.
Welcome to a free market economy.
 
I've heard from a buddy who got tickets that a lot of the individuals who were able to buy tickets from the university have bought 8 and have only kept a few and are selling the rest on Stub Hub for 4 X the face value to pay for their trips. This is the problem when you let people who have only had two tickets buy 8. You end up screwing over people like loyal alums that have bought season tickets for over a decade.
If so- disgustingly sick
 
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