Fake News. That guy was real. He named his youngest child after him....
He is who he always was.
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I thought something similar. Considering that he wasn't really conservative, or Republican, or didn't exhibit much actual policy interest or acuity, and still commanded a following from a lot of primary voters, I expected that you might see a lot of "only Nixon could go to China" activity on some of the more intractable questions. Historically, he's a political moderate at most, with a tinge of an old person's fear of brown people.
I really expected, with even a little savvy political guidance, for him to repeat the Bill Clinton era from the other side...remember Clinton signed workfare, NAFTA, supported law and order, abandoned much of the leftist agenda of the previous two decades of Democrats, and was yet beloved by Democrats basically for winning and presiding over a good economy.
That path was all lined up for Trump. And instead, he's basically completely positioned himself as pandering to a relatively small subset of worshipers.
It's a BIG function of a shrinking denominator. Lots of conservative and Republican leaning voters have switched to independent status over the last 20 years for a number of reasons. The number of registered Republicans is shrinking.
Most of what's left registered are extreme party rah-rah folks who are going to put up those kind of approval numbers for any Republican president.
We're also in an adversarial era where it is extremely important that neither side give a millimeter, which leads to the same.
Lol.....calling the people who won morons.....what does that say about people that weren't good enough or smart enough to beat a bunch of morons? Are they uber morons? Super morons? Your candidate who is a lifelong politician lost at her very own game. Keep calling the winners morons.........
It says a ton about Republican voters. Maybe this will help illustrate the idea:
Democrats nominate Adolph Hitler as President and Joseph Stalin as Vice President, they beat the Republican candidate and win the election. In your twisted mind, this is the fault of Republicans, rather than the Democrats who elected Hitler.
What does it say about people who lost to morons? That there were too many morons in key states.
I can try other examples, perhaps a sports related analogy if this was not effective in illustrating the point.
You can spin away. If I can’t come up with a candidate to beat Hitler that is a me issue. The reality is you lost to possibly the worst candidate to win ever. Own it lol. FYI
I would say more of an indictment of the GOP. How many GOP candidates did he beat in the primaries, about 20?
No, it's on the morons who voted for Hitler. The level of stupidity here is making me wonder if you're just trying to embarrass Republicans.
Which party nominated Trump?
Who voted for Trump?
Which candidate received more votes?
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Trump didn’t garner more votes. He was only selected based on an archaic process that does not accurately reflect the will of the people.
Those like you who support Trump are an abomination to all that is good about our nation.
The sooner Trump and his supporters are removed, the better for America.
In a short amount of time he learned how to play politics. He played it better than the life long politicians. According to some on this board the ‘morons’ beat the smart people. Makes perfect sense..... to them.
Everyone lost here. Your kids, my kids. There are no winners. Only losers.
The first/B is a running HROT joke, bud. Sorta like moran, just not as frequent.
Lol. You don't have anything left. Poor fella, with your weak-ass game.
Arguing about who is responsible for Trump is a losing and divisive proposition and will only help get Trump reelected. We are all responsible for Trump becoming President. Too many Republicans voted for him thinking he would be a refreshing change and too many Democrats did not come out to vote for Hillary in 2016. We cannot let that happen again in 2020 if we all want to maintain our sanity. Trump can be entertaining and a good caricature, but he is not a good leader and should not be President. 2016 should be a wake up call for all of us that we need to take the elections seriously. It sure would help if there was a strong candidate for all of us to rally around, but that is not the case.
Pretty spot on. The other issue is that the Democratic Party is setting themselves up again. They have spent so much time and effort working on getting Trump out of office that they forgot that the best way is to develop a candidate to beat him. Trump set the bar so low and continues to lower it yet the Democrats recycled a candidate that may not be able to get over that bar. The anti Trump focus has been detrimental to their cause. They have done little to sell themselves other than go with ‘better than Trump’ I am afraid for our country that their approach won’t work.
Typical lib move showing only a select cut of that interview. Right after that he grabs her by the pussy and she falls in line.
Yes, it is absolutely embarrassing and shameful to lose to the worst candidate in history. Not quite as embarrassing and shameful as nominating, voting for, electing, and still supporting the worst candidate in history. It's not one or the other. The obvious point is that Republicans are MORE to blame for Trump than the Democrats, and even engaging in such a stupid discussion only shows that Democrats are also more patient and generous. You're welcome.
“President Donald Trump on Wednesday began to invoke the rhetoric of “a wartime president” as he told reporters he views himself as one, while his administration fights to contain the spread of coronavirus and mitigate the economic fallout from the global pandemic.
“I do, I actually do, I'm looking at it that way,” Trump told reporters during a press briefing at the White House when asked whether he considered the U.S. to be on a wartime footing. “I look at it, I view it as, in a sense, a wartime president. I mean, that's what we're fighting.“”
And he’s lost 149k American lives on the so-called official count and about double that if you use the most accurate measure, number of dead Americans last year versus number of dead Americans this year.
Oh yeah, and he killed the economy by being feckless rather than resolute.
Two things, Trump did not get us involved in Coronavirus.
Second, why do you believe that Republican governors and citizens would have handled this pandemic any differently if Clinton was President? This virus was going to truck our ignorant population and poor health care system no matter who was in charge. There are plenty of ignorant Democrats in this country too.
Trump still hasn't gotten us involved in any foreign wars. Your dumbass rationalization doesn't fit the bill.
Clinton is a health care wonk since the 80s. Something tells me the response would have been quite different. Given the timeline, this occurring three years into the presidency, which, by then would have likely been pretty boring and uncontentious (by comparison), I’m guessing pushback on White House pandemic response leadership would have been marginal/minimal.
But, of course, we’re all free to speculate as we see fit.
Tell me, why did New York have such a horrid response to this virus? Being a liberal haven, run by liberals?
This ought to be good.
Because travel wasn't shut down to them quickly and completely very early in the process. Trump's lack of leadership and action throughout this ordeal has been the single biggest factor in the devastating effects we are seeing. He abdicated his responsibilities to the Governors and, unfortunately, even did that too late. It's been a complete failure on his part.
Trump shut down travel from China and liberals called him xenophobic.
Cuomo and NY are responsible for NY's actions. They could have stopped travel, they chose not to. They could have put GWB/Obama's pandemic response protocols into action, they chose not to. That is on them.
No amount of deflecting blame will change any of that. I know that Liberals hate taking responsibility for their own actions but this is not complicated.
HRC got 3 million more votes. Anyone blaming Democrats for Trump is trying to wash their hands of culpability. They chose him from a primary field of more than a dozen people and he routinely polled at more than 95% approval with Republicans. Trump and the damage he inflicts belongs squarely to them.
So your position is that shutting down travel from China is where Trump's responsibility started and ended with respect to a global pandemic? Once he did that, his pandemic response grade is an A+ and everything else is someone else's fault?
No, Trump has been horrible and bears much of the blame.
Where State and local leadership has been poor, they should take responsibility for their own actions or inaction.
Why is this controversial?
Is your position that Cuomo forcing old folks homes to take coronavirus patients is Trump's fault?
When I look back at Trump explaining how he shut down travel from China and that it was a very unpopular decision and that he single handedly saved hundreds of thousands of lives.... all I see now is him saying "person. woman. man. camera. tv." That is the level of intellect he has brought to the table in everything he has said and done in his life, and we are the idiots who allowed his incoherent ramblings to be about things that were actually important to the safety and well being of the entire planet. All of humanity has a price to pay for allowing Trump to be President, and I fear we're only just getting started at paying that debt.
