Covid vaccine blood...or covid vaccine free blood. Doesn't really matter.
What does really matter, is the hospital withholding a life saving surgery
The hospital is telling them they get the SAME donated blood standard everyone else gets.
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Covid vaccine blood...or covid vaccine free blood. Doesn't really matter.
What does really matter, is the hospital withholding a life saving surgery
Okay...they're stupid. Still don't see a good reason to deny the request.Stupidity for this even being an issue
Seems vindictive to deny the request.The hospital is telling them they get the SAME donated blood standard everyone else gets.
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They can't die off, because people like you won't let them make their own decisions.Is it bad that I'm kind of wanting the next pandemic to happen so all these ignorant, brainwashed antivaxxers will go and die off
yesIs it bad that I'm kind of wanting the next pandemic to happen so all these ignorant, brainwashed antivaxxers will go and die off? Our species would be so better off for it
Okay...they're stupid. Still don't see a good reason to deny the request.
Seems to be "Standard of Care", because NO ONE gets to choose who they accept donated blood from.Seems vindictive to deny the request.
They can't die off, because people like you won't let them make their own decisions.
Seems to be "Standard of Care", because NO ONE gets to choose who they accept donated blood from.
You get the next unit out of the fridge.
OP indicates MRNA vaccines are the primary concern....There are vaccines OTHER THAN the mRNA ones. I believe their stance is "no vaccinations", not "no mRNA vaccines".
Weren't they all supposed to do that the first time around?Is it bad that I'm kind of wanting the next pandemic to happen so all these ignorant, brainwashed antivaxxers will go and die off? Our species would be so better off for it
If you use the blood bank blood. But you can provide your own donor if you have one. If they had an unvaccinated donor willing to give, the hospital should accept it and perform the surgery.Seems to be "Standard of Care", because NO ONE gets to choose who they accept donated blood from.
You get the next unit out of the fridge.
OP indicates MRNA vaccine is primary concern....
"The boy’s mother says she wants her son’s operation to take place without delay, but she has demanded that “safe blood” be used, with her lawyer saying that the family was concerned about blood containing traces of vaccines using new mRNA technology."
Weren't they all supposed to do that the first time around?
Because it will enable further stupidity in the future
Lots did. Next time there will probably be more.Weren't they all supposed to do that the first time around?
Yep. Give an inch, people take a mile. It’s in our blood (pun intended). We’re pretty shitty that way.
Rules are rules. Everyone can’t go around making their own - it would be anarchy. That’s why we have them.
Yep. Give an inch, people take a mile. It’s in our blood (pun intended). We’re pretty shitty that way.
Rules are rules. Everyone can’t go around making their own - it would be anarchy. That’s why we have them.
If you use the blood bank blood. But you can provide your own donor if you have one. If they had an unvaccinated donor willing to give, the hospital should accept it and perform the surgery.
And, guess what...nothing bad would happen by using that blood.
Unlike the hospital playing games with the surgery and the kids life just to get their way.
Is this true? Which hospital do you know of that offers this as part of policy? I’ve never seen this as an option when dealing with surgery. I’ve got some trauma surgeon buddies - I’m going to ask them if this is an option at their hospitals.
Used to be true during the early days of HIV,.. not sure if this is still a thing.
It is true. Look up 'Directed blood donations'. You can donate to friends and family and direct the blood for that purpose.Is this true? Which hospital do you know of that offers this as part of policy? I’ve never seen this as an option when dealing with surgery. I’ve got some trauma surgeon buddies - I’m going to ask them if this is an option at their hospitals.
My compliments, "Crimea River" I think is the most clever Russian bot handle yet.Don’t recall anyone bitching about directed donation(s) in the past. Looks like the media is trying a little too hard to publicize this case.
As to why, one can only surmise.
I’ll see what they tell me. They cut people up in major health systems so I’m guessing they follow industry standards.
It is true. Look up 'Directed blood donations'. You can donate to friends and family and direct the blood for that purpose.
https://www.cancer.org/treatment/tr...-transfusion-and-donation/donating-blood.html
The hospital thinks they know better than the patient and wants to make a stand...which is threatening this kid's life.Interesting. So why is this a problem in this case? Sounds like they have a donor lined up. Timing? Does New Zealand have different rules?
It is true. Look up 'Directed blood donations'. You can donate to friends and family and direct the blood for that purpose.
https://www.cancer.org/treatment/tr...-transfusion-and-donation/donating-blood.html
The hospital thinks they know better than the patient and wants to make a stand...which is threatening this kid's life.
If you use the blood bank blood. But you can provide your own donor if you have one.
The patient still has the right to choose their own medical care. Or should at least...No, the hospital DOES know more than the patient
Wrong. They can choose directed blood donation for whatever reason they may have.No; they generally DO NOT do this, unless there is a critical, medically necessary reason for it.
Being "antivax" is not a medically necessary reason.
The hospital thinks they know better than the patient and wants to make a stand...which is threatening this kid's life.
Generally, no, you can't.If you use the blood bank blood. But you can provide your own donor if you have one.
I agree. Nothing would have happened, and nobody would have cared.Probably would have been better to just quietly accommodate their request...
No, they cannot. It CAN be an option in some places (particularly those where blood bank blood supplies are low).Wrong. They can choose directed blood donation for whatever reason they may have.
Nope.Probably would have been better to just quietly accommodate their request...
Using a directed donation preserves the blood bank supply. Which is often chronically low.Generally, no, you can't.
ONLY IF the hospital agrees to it, and that only happens in unusual cases.
Hospitals run on efficiency, and they use blood bank blood almost universally.
Nope.