Here’s Why the Science Is Clear That Masks Work

[Joes Place]

Yeah. Like when the Gold Standard of scientific studies won’t back up the claims you want to make.

Let's put you in the "control group" for parachute/no parachute in a RCT of jumping out of planes, Cletus.
Some studies will not be conducted as RCTs due to their risks.

You didn't read that new study link I'd provided for you, that goes into impressive levels of detail on the topic.
All you want to do is obfuscate the issues here.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Is that not a log scale?

A log scale???

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Let's put you in the "control group" for parachute/no parachute in a RCT of jumping out of planes, Cletus.
Some studies will not be conducted as RCTs due to their risks.

You didn't read that new study link I'd provided for you, that goes into impressive levels of detail on the topic.
All you want to do is obfuscate the issues here.

Any study that uses the phrase “anti-maskers” is not scientific.

Any study that includes the statement “Some have argued that the scientific value of the RCT has become inflated, particularly among doctors, leading them to overlook high-quality non-RCT evidence.” is not scientific.

Any study that includes the statement “The largest category in our dataset was “what if” analyses…” is not scientific (but it IS pretty freaking comical).

I could go on and on. I did spend time looking for the ‘Strengths/Weaknesses’ portion of this study but quit when I realized the entire ‘study’ was a weakness.

🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Joes Place]

Any study that uses the phrase “anti-maskers” is not scientific.

Since you're not a scientist, probably not really relevant for you to make those kinds of judgements.

 

[Joes Place]

I could go on and on.

Yes, you could "go on and on" with more irrelevant tripe.

I'm sure you will.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Yes, you could "go on and on" with more irrelevant tripe.

I'm sure you will.

Yes, your mask ‘study’ certainly is irrelevant tripe.

 

[Joes Place]

Yes, your mask ‘study’ certainly is irrelevant tripe.

Because you and your GED "say so"

What's your degree in, again? Have you made it thru HS?

 

[RonaldMexico]

Since you're not a scientist, probably not really relevant for you to make those kinds of judgements.

Laugh. My. Ass. Off. Jojo, the expert on all subjects, slapping this criteria on someone is the height of comedy. But I guess since you are a pharmaceutical sales guy, you meet the criteria in this thread. Carry on.

 

[Joes Place]

slapping this criteria on someone is the height of comedy.

Probably because you're not a scientist, either.
What's your highest level of education, Cletus? Home-school?

 

[RonaldMexico]

Because you and your GED "say so"

What's your degree in, again? Have you made it thru HS?

So you only post about things relevant to your college degree? Your CV must read like a novel given your expertise in every subject.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Here’s Joe’s lead author (and mask disinformation specialist) on the latest and greatest junk science, propaganda piece he posted.

And he wonders why no one takes him…or his PhD…and all his patents and published studies - seriously. 🤣 🤣 🤣

During an interview on the BBC 5 Live Breakfast programme, Professor Trish Greenhalgh, a healthcare expert at Oxford University, said that mask mandates in the UK were introduced during a time of rapidly rising Covid-19 infections, which came under control a few weeks later.

There is evidence that masks do at least partly protect people from spreading and catching Covid, but this does not accurately describe what happened when mask mandates were introduced in the UK.

It does not seem right to say that infections were rising very rapidly, although there were very slight rises, within the margin of uncertainty, in the weeks when the mandates were introduced.

Nor was there a significant fall in the weeks following the introduction of the mandates, with infections remaining generally flat until September, when they began to rise at the beginning of the second wave.

Full Fact contacted Professor Greenhalgh, who agreed that she had misremembered what happened in 2020. The mistake was also noted by at least one Twitter user.

Mask mandates did not immediately control a Covid-19 wave in 2020 - Full Fact

There is evidence that masks work to reduce the spread of Covid-19, but making them compulsory did not reverse a wave in the summer of 2020.

fullfact.org

 

[Joes Place]

So you only post about things relevant to your college degree?

No; I have a degree that has taught me exceptional critical thinking skills.

You, apparently, do not. Which is why you post and 'Like' nonsense.

 

[Joes Place]

Here’s Joe’s lead author

So, you can only attack one author, and cannot provide any formal criticisms of what is actually contained in the paper.

BAU, for someone who didn't even complete a GED.

 

[RonaldMexico]

Probably because you're not a scientist, either.
What's your highest level of education, Cletus? Home-school?

Ooohhhhh. Sick burn from the drug rep. I like Jojo the scientist, but it is probably my fourth or fifth favorite Jojo. Jojo MBA and Colonel Jojo, graduate of of West Point with emphasis on global politics and military strategy are a few of my favorites. Of course Jojo MD is #1. But I think Jojo is over 50, so he doesn’t practice any more. After all nobody still operates after 50. Jojo MSW, MFA, all levels of engineering, MA in education admin………. The list just goes on and on.

You impress me so much Jojo. That is what you are looking for right? Validation?

 

[RonaldMexico]

No; I have a degree that has taught me exceptional critical thinking skills.

You, apparently, do not. Which is why you post and 'Like' nonsense.

This is great. Since you have these incredible critical thinking skills, you can obviously figure out how to look at someone’s posting history. Please show me my “Likes” and posts supporting nonsense. You are a caricature of insecure anonymous SM posters.

 

[Joes Place]

Ooohhhhh. Sick burn

Meanwhile, your buddy can simply regurgitate old interviews and not evaluate any of the science or data.

Just like you.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

So, you can only attack one author, and cannot provide any formal criticisms of what is actually contained in the paper.

BAU, for someone who didn't even complete a GED.

A dead fish rots from the head. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Joes Place]

This is great.

And you still refuse to post your educational credentials.
Just like your silly wingman...

 

[Joes Place]

A dead fish rots from the head.

You've posted an interview; you have not reviewed any of the actual information or data.

There are a dozen other contributors to that work

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Ooohhhhh. Sick burn from the drug rep. I like Jojo the scientist, but it is probably my fourth or fifth favorite Jojo. Jojo MBA and Colonel Jojo, graduate of of West Point with emphasis on global politics and military strategy are a few of my favorites. Of course Jojo MD is #1. But I think Jojo is over 50, so he doesn’t practice any more. After all nobody still operates after 50. Jojo MSW, MFA, all levels of engineering, MA in education admin………. The list just goes on and on.

You impress me so much Jojo. That is what you are looking for right? Validation?

You forgot jojo the stand up comedian.

 

[Pinehawk]

 

[MichaelKeller99]

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Now we know who Joes Place’s wife is.

 

[RonaldMexico]

Now we know who Joes Place’s wife is.

Zero chance Jojo is married. No woman would live with that.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Zero chance Jojo is married. No woman would live with that.

But if they DID exist they’d be the type to mask their mutt, lol.

 

[Finance85]

No; I have a degree that has taught me exceptional critical thinking skills.

You, apparently, do not. Which is why you post and 'Like' nonsense.

I have to admit, your critical thinking skills are, indeed, exceptional. There are very few people who think like you.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Of all the clowns in DC this one is probably the most comical.

 

[hawkland14]

Looks like Robert Deniro is still living the masked life. The Covid cult members on here Im sure are proud.

 

[Joes Place]

Of all the clowns in DC this one is probably the most comical.

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WTF does 2003 have to do with this?

We had no outbreak here then.

 

[fsu1jreed]

WTF does 2003 have to do with this?

We had no outbreak here then.

Exactly, he said "at this point in time we do not need to wear masks in the US."

 

[naturalbornhawk]

So, you can only attack one author, and cannot provide any formal criticisms of what is actually contained in the paper.

Well s#!t Joe how many times have you and your buddies attacked who said it, rather than focus on the actual content?

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Looks like Robert Deniro is still living the masked life. The Covid cult members on here Im sure are proud.

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What is going on with Deniro anyway? Ever since after he came out a few years back and said something's not right with the vaccines (got that right), he's been a complete loon.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

WTF does 2003 have to do with this?

We had no outbreak here then.

You don’t remember the fear mongering over SARS-CoV-1 and it’s 10% fatality rate?
(And in before “The science changed!!!”)

Tony ‘I AM the science’ Fauci says masks are useless and I, for one, believe him.

Contrary to the assertion by the head of the CDC that the media played a vital role in communicating accurate and up-to-date information about SARS to the public (Gerberding 2003), the media's coverage of SARS was often charac- terized by little more than sensationalism and xenophobic fear-mongering. Highly-charged footage of public health officers in bio-hazard suits and airline passengers in surgical masks incited unwarranted public anxiety and harkened back to tales of the "yellow peril" allegedly posed by East and Southeast Asians living in or visiting the US. Despite touting "special cover story," "in-depth expose," or "investigative report" coverage that promised all the vital facts about SARS, the media provided little substantive information about the disease. Noticeably absent from most o f its coverage was the fundamental fact that SARS was not easily communicable, nor was it fatal in the overwhelming majority of cases. For example, at the height of the "epidemic" there was virtually no media coverage of the findings by researchers at Harvard's School of Public Health that SARS had an infectiousness Ro of slightly more than 2 (the flu, by contrast has an Ro of 10),10 and that transmission was not airborne or casual but rather required a person to ingest droplets of virus-laden mucus. Additionally, media reports conflated "suspected," "probable," and "known" cases and failed to follow up on them. Instead, one researcher's outlandish (and quickly discredited) prediction of "up to 1 billion cases by next year" (Seeman, 2003) was chanted like a mantra by the media.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/105413730501300203

 

[hawkeye54545]

No; I have a degree that has taught me exceptional critical thinking skills.

You, apparently, do not. Which is why you post and 'Like' nonsense.

Scrolling through this quickly and reading this without paying attention who posted this I knew who posted this.

No one loves them some Joe's Place quite like Joe's Place.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

What's your highest level of education, Cletus? Home-school?

You're probably aware that home schooled kids outperform public school kids by 15 - 25 percentile points on standardized tests like SAT and ACT...

 

[Joes Place]

Well s#!t Joe how many times have you and your buddies attacked who said it

Because it's an unsupported video and not a publication, idiot

 

[Joes Place]

You don’t remember the fear mongering over SARS-CoV-1 and it’s 10% fatality rate?

It was never in the US

That's literally why we didn't need masks.

 

[Joes Place]

You're probably aware that home schooled kids outperform public school kids by 15 - 25 percentile points on standardized tests like SAT and ACT...

So, we're equating "home schooling" to advanced degrees, now?

 

[Joes Place]

Scrolling through this quickly and reading this without paying attention who posted this I knew who posted this.

Weird how you and your buddies don't appear to have any formal education on these topics.

Now, we're up to "but homeschooled kids do well on standardized tests!!!!"
That means nothing, relative to "critical thinking skills".

 

[ft254]

Remember the study that pine and all the other anti maskers touted as definitive proof masks don’t work?

Cochrane, says that the way it summarized the review was unclear and imprecise, and that the way some people interpreted it was wrong.
“Many commentators have claimed that a recently updated Cochrane review shows that ‘masks don’t work,’ which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation,” Karla Soares-Weiser, the editor in chief of the Cochrane Library, said in a statement.
“The review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses,” Soares-Weiser said, adding, “Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask wearing itself reduces people’s risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.”

A prize rose is a weed when it grows in a garden. Your message is lost in this shithole of cynicism.

 

[Hock-I]

Opinion | Here’s Why the Science Is Clear That Masks Work

A respected science organization says its review of studies about respiratory viruses was misinterpreted to incorrectly claim masks were useless.

www.nytimes.com

For proof that masks work, please refer to the opinion section…