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How the Hawkeyes will beat the Clones on Thurs.

yes because Iowa so often wins in Ames even when ISU has a subpar team. 2003 is calling you...it's the last time the Hawks won in Hilton.

How bad does it suck for clone fan knowing Iowa has the largest margin of defeat for the clones in Hilton?

I love the second coming of the Wayne Morgan era.
 
yes because Iowa so often wins in Ames even when ISU has a subpar team. 2003 is calling you...it's the last time the Hawks won in Hilton.
Let's see what prom boy does after the is year. Can you say Wayne Morgan? I can.

I like the Wayne Morgan point..

I don't know Cy but seeing how the Hawks are 43 wins to ISU's 25 in the series, we must be winning some where in Ames, Iowa? I will give you 7 of the last 10 meetings but your U still has a WAYS to go to catch up winning more BB games than Iowa has head to head.

It's still a Hawkeye State in BB too....it is what it is even if we do lose on Thursday night. Deal with it.
 
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I like the Wayne Morgan point..

I don't know Cy but seeing how the Hawks are 43 wins to ISU's 25 in the series, we must be winning some where in Ames, Iowa? I will give you 7 of the last 10 meetings but your U still has a WAYS to go to catch up winning more BB games than Iowa has head to head.

It's still a Hawkeye State in BB too....it is what it is even if we do lose on Thursday night. Deal with it.
Here we go again. Cite all-time statistics and ignore the fact that for nearly 40 years Iowa refused to play ISU. A much more relevant number would be the outcome in the modern era, which you could say began with the hiring of Lute, or of Johnny, or the construction of Hilton, or the construction of CHA, take your pick. If you go back to when Lute was hired, that seems fairly representative. It's 40 freaking years.
 
Here we go again. Cite all-time statistics and ignore the fact that for nearly 40 years Iowa refused to play ISU. A much more relevant number would be the outcome in the modern era, which you could say began with the hiring of Lute, or of Johnny, or the construction of Hilton, or the construction of CHA, take your pick. If you go back to when Lute was hired, that seems fairly representative. It's 40 freaking years.

More clone fan butthurt. Little bro getting cranky and whinny again. When all else fails clone fan plays the select time frame card.

No surprise there. It is a rule for clone fan posting.
 
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Here we go again. Cite all-time statistics and ignore the fact that for nearly 40 years Iowa refused to play ISU. A much more relevant number would be the outcome in the modern era, which you could say began with the hiring of Lute, or of Johnny, or the construction of Hilton, or the construction of CHA, take your pick. If you go back to when Lute was hired, that seems fairly representative. It's 40 freaking years.


Yeah, let's just selectively recall history.... that's the ticket!

What makes you so certain that isu would have been so successful during those 34 years that the two teams did not face each other? Is it the 7-3 margin of wins favoring Iowa from the 70's when the series was renewed?

Johnny Orr screams of revisionist history... what was his record(s) while at isu?

('40 freaking years' really is not all that when YOU are older than dirt itself.)

Carry on, Mr. Obsessed with 80K + posts.... you always do.
 
Here we go again. Cite all-time statistics and ignore the fact that for nearly 40 years Iowa refused to play ISU. A much more relevant number would be the outcome in the modern era, which you could say began with the hiring of Lute, or of Johnny, or the construction of Hilton, or the construction of CHA, take your pick. If you go back to when Lute was hired, that seems fairly representative. It's 40 freaking years.

Iowa should refuse to play isu now. The douchy isu behavior that got things cancelled before has escalated.

What racial slurs will isu students hurl at Iowa cheerleaders tonight? Or will Pollard just add that to his on-going "investigation" of the last time Iowa visited the pond scum of the earth.

I can already feel the earthquake today. Clone fans are crawling out from under their rocks throughout the day will set off seismic scales all around the globe.
 
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Here we go again. Cite all-time statistics and ignore the fact that for nearly 40 years Iowa refused to play ISU. A much more relevant number would be the outcome in the modern era, which you could say began with the hiring of Lute, or of Johnny, or the construction of Hilton, or the construction of CHA, take your pick. If you go back to when Lute was hired, that seems fairly representative. It's 40 freaking years.

During the 40 years Iowa and ISU did not play (seasons 1935-1936 thru 1969-1970) the 2 programs had the following winning %s (according to media guides of the 2 schools):

Iowa: 62%
ISU: 49%

Forgive me if I don't think ISU would have improved on their record much (if at all) during that time frame.
 
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During the 40 years Iowa and ISU did not play (seasons 1935-1936 thru 1969-1970) the 2 programs had the following winning %s (according to media guides of the 2 schools):

Iowa: 62%
ISU: 49%

Forgive me if I don't think ISU would have improved on their record much (if at all) during that time frame.

CAN'T USE FACTS WITH CLONE FANS. THEY WILL IGNORE IT AND THAT SIMPLY ISN'T PLAYING FAIR.
 
So in general Iowa was better during that time frame? Of course we can see that ISU would have had the upper hand. English may be a strength but logic might be a weakness.
 
Iowa vs Iowa State in Hilton could be one heck of a game. KenPom has Iowa State #13 and Iowa #19 tonight. It is fair to say Iowa State is favored, but then, that's why the games are played.

If I were a Clone fan, aside from wishing I were dead, I'd be concerned with State's 7-0 record that amounts to wins over teams currently ranked 49, 339, 103,132, 90, 114, 164. A 6 point win over #49 Colorado, and an 11 point win over #90 Illinois.

Meanwhile, Iowa has played games against teams ranked 237, 342, 81, 42, 27, 40, 35, 192, 177. That's two more games, an away game and three on a neutral court. (Important as Iowa is traveling) We lost on a neutral court to #42 Dayton by 5, and #27 Notre Dame by 6. But we clobbered #40 Wichita State by 23, beat #35 FSU, and trounced #81 Marquette by 28 points.

The way I see it, yes ISU should be favored, but these instate rivalries have a way of turning out strange.

The question to me is does the Iowa team that lost two close games show up, playing great only part of the game. Or does the team that destroyed Marquette play a whole game like that again? Well see.

Ouch, Iowa has two losses already, and hasn't even played anyone in your KenPom top-25.
 
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ISU fans do not know how to handle success.

Luckily this is the last year of ISU's best run as a program and all they've had to show for it is one Sweet 16 birth. What happens when they're no longer a top 25 team next year, does their self-proclaimed 'basketball school' become a 'cross country school'?
 
Ouch, Iowa has two losses already, and hasn't even played anyone in your KenPom top-25.

Hey clone fan, what racial slurs will the always classy isu students be hurling at Iowa cheerleaders tonight?

Maybe if isu didn't act like douches all the time people might treat them differently. Naw clone fans live to be douches. It is in their culture. Once a red-headed step child always a red-headed step child.

What class at isu is this douchy behavior taught? We know it is a mandatory requirement to graduate from pond scum U.
 
ISU fans do not know how to handle success.

Luckily this is the last year of ISU's best run as a program and all they've had to show for it is one Sweet 16 birth. What happens when they're no longer a top 25 team next year, does their self-proclaimed 'basketball school' become a 'cross country school'?

Flynn is proud as all clone fans are to be a cross-country school. Pollard is in design meetings as we speak for his next billboard.
 
Time for clone fans to run away and hide. They don't have the balls to defend their racist students and their douchy behavior.

See ya.
 
Do you know what "envy" means? I cannot think of any sane person who would trade ISU's basketball program for Iowa's right now. If we were talking football, totally different situation, obviously.
I would have agreed with you until I asked a few cyclone fans this fall about how they view iowa games.There was a consensus that losing season is better than losing to iowa.I don't think you would find an iowa fan saying that about iowa state.That is why the envy thing is legit.
 
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The key is getting back in transition and making them play in the half court. Taking care of the ball and closing out on shooters.

The Niang Uthoff matchup should be great.
Woodbury trying to run with McKay could be a problem.
I also think Nader is going to cause problems for Jok. Nader is strong, athletic and has long arms. And he is taller than Jok. Then on the offensive end Nader can post guys up. I think that matchup is the key to the game.
 
ISU has not been impressive early on. Their offensive sets seem to have suffered since Hoiberg's departure, and their defense is still sub par. My only concern is Woody getting back on McKay. The only thing he can do is dunk, but he gets a lot of his points off sprinting to the hoop off of made or missed baskets. Could be a case where we see Wagner a lot, who wouldn't have any trouble keeping pace with McKay.
Iowa has a good shot at stealing this game, but looking forward, this is the last time in awhile I see us as the underdog. They're going to lose all of their major contributors after this year (Morris thinks he's turning pro) and Iowa has better recruits coming in for the future along with a better roster for next year. I'd really like to see someone blow a kiss to the crowd if the Hawks can pull off the upset.

Their defense is ranked in the top 20 in Ken Pom so far this year.
 
Don't know why people want a true freshman in Wagner trying to check McKay. That just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
 
Any ISU stupidity in this thread is constantly trumped by you. You do realize that, don't you?

I realize that isu students hurling racial hurls at Iowa cheerleaders will always trump anything I throw back.

I realize that no matter what facts I bring to the table that show how isu, its fans, players, coaches, donors and AD act no one will admit the isu culture is one of being D-bags when it comes to anything and everything related to the University of Iowa.

I also realize that if isu didn't act the way they do I wouldn't have any ammunition.

The question is when will you or isu fans ever grasp this? When isu, its fans, players, racist students, donors and AD quit acting like douches I will leave them alone. Any idea when we can expect this?
 
During the 40 years Iowa and ISU did not play (seasons 1935-1936 thru 1969-1970) the 2 programs had the following winning %s (according to media guides of the 2 schools):

Iowa: 62%
ISU: 49%

Forgive me if I don't think ISU would have improved on their record much (if at all) during that time frame.
You are forgiven. Go now and sin no more.
 
Time for clone fans to run away and hide. They don't have the balls to defend their racist students and their douchy behavior.

See ya.

Wait...so you want them to defend racism? And if you are talking about douchy behavior look in the mirror.
 
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What really has this ISU team done? Their biggest win last year was at Carver. Whoopty freaking do that they won 3 games in KC. All those teams lost right away in the NCAA anyway. Hilton is a tad worry-some for a team that relies on shots falling. Go Hawks
 
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Wait...so you want them to defend racism? And if you are talking about douchy behavior look in the mirror.

Actually it would be best if isu fans, students, players, coaches, donors and AD weren't douches but clearly no one can control the isu culture.

If isu folks are so upset about me pointing out all the douchy incidents that represent isu so well maybe they should set out to end them.
 
Actually it would be best if isu fans, students, players, coaches, donors and AD weren't douches but clearly no one can control the isu culture.

If isu folks are so upset about me pointing out all the douchy incidents that represent isu so well maybe they should set out to end them.

How old are you?
 
I never heard of Prohm before he came to Iowa State but I wouldn't count him out just yet. He had two point guards drafted into the NBA from Murray State during his short tenure there. Isaiah Canaan was the 34th pick in the 2013 NBA draft by the Houston Rockets and is on the 76ers roster and Cameron Payne who was drafted at #14 this year by the young up and coming Oklahoma City Thunder. I don't know about Canaan but Payne was drafted that high after only his sophomore season so Prohm can either recruit big or develop players. I feel it is more difficult for smaller schools like Murray State to sign quality players so Prohm must have developed them.
 
How old are you?
How old is the isu AD?
How old is the isu donor who went after Bill Self?
How old are the racist students that hurled slurs at Iowa cheerleaders?

What does age have to do with pointing out how isu acts?
 
Shoot like they did against Marquette, play defense out of their arse, hope ISU shoots below 30% from the 3 pt line and yeah, Iowa has a real good shot then.
 
How old is the isu AD?
How old is the isu donor who went after Bill Self?
How old are the racist students that hurled slurs at Iowa cheerleaders?

What does age have to do with pointing out how isu acts?

I have to think you are mentally deranged.
 
Their defense is ranked in the top 20 in Ken Pom so far this year.

They haven't played anybody. Hoiberg's teams were built to outscore opponents (which they often did) but was never a good defensive team. Prom had a much worse defensive rating last year with Murray State despite playing against lesser opponents. I rest my case.
 
  • I have to think you are mentally deranged.

    So pointing out how isu, it's fans, Donors, racist students and AD act makes me deranged?

    Then do tell us what those that actually have committed the behavior are.

    This will be good.
 
Any ISU stupidity in this thread is constantly trumped by you. You do realize that, don't you?


He is passionate will give him that.

Believe the idiot's who commit racist acts were called out by many ISU fans. Pollard has many critics within the ISU community, and think he is brash, and have called him out on many occasions.

World is not a perfect place, though after reading some posts, thinking the only imperfection left is in Ames.

Anyway doing my part to extend the olive branch, host Iowa friends at my house in Los Angeles, taking them around the city and then going to the Rose Bowl game. That said if they start giving me crap about ISU football dropping their sorry a$$es on Alondra in Compton. Cuz that is how I roll :)
 
He is passionate will give him that.

Believe the idiot's who commit racist acts were called out by many ISU fans. Pollard has many critics within the ISU community, and think he is brash, and have called him out on many occasions.

World is not a perfect place, though after reading some posts, thinking the only imperfection left is in Ames.

Anyway doing my part to extend the olive branch, host Iowa friends at my house in Los Angeles, taking them around the city and then going to the Rose Bowl game. That said if they start giving me crap about ISU football dropping their sorry a$$es on Alondra in Compton. Cuz that is how I roll :)

Name one other AD who acts more like a douche than Pollard.
 
Why don't we focus on the positives of both teams of young men that are representing their teams well. I wonder what prospective recruits who might be reading these boards think of the hate spewed by their prospective Hawkeye fans. To be honest I don't have a problem cheering for Iowa when they aren't playing Iowa State but it's pretty difficult to do when Hawkeye fans spend all their time hating. I wonder what the rest of their life is like. I think we all know what all the former wins and losses are and where a team's weaknesses are. What is amazing to me is most of you Hawkeye fans only want to talk about records no doubt before most of your were born. Another thing is stating your superiority for winning your first game in the NCAA tournament under Fran's reign and the fact that ISU has been ranked continuously for the last two years if not a little longer whereas Iowa was ranked two weeks or less during that time. I understand you should fully support your team but it doesn't have to be by shredding Iowa State into bits. I read here because this web site is easier to navigate and think we could have a healthy banter between both school's fans but you don't have to stoop so low as to disparage every thing about the other school.

I hate to think how superior the Iowa fans will think their team is should they win tonight yet still won't give ISU any credit if they win. After all Fran's record at Iowa against ISU is 1-4 so I would think he is long overdue for a win.
 
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