Hundreds of thousands of poor Americans will soon be able to move to better areas, thanks to this ju
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lol. I love it. Great minds and stuff, right? Thanks, man. But you're selling yourself short. I've read your posts. They're generally really good. Of course, with threads like this it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
That's why you have to be proactive. Invite them to dinner or BBQ and they'll be less likely to see you as an object with stuff and, instead, real people who actually care about them as real people, too.
what?? To get people not to steal, you should invite them over for dinner? Wtf is wrong with your head. Seriously. That may be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on here. And that’s saying something.
This has to be a joke. If I went into that apartment complex as a white male, the end result may not be good for my overall health. You realize that reverse racism is very very real. Hell, my black neighbors are scared of the people that live there. They view life differently than we do.
I want to tell a personal story of a life experience from 2014. A coworker wanted to get involved in the Big Brother program so I agreed to partake as well. I then met this 13 year old kid named Andre that lived in the Dixie Ct housing projects in Ft. Lauderdale. Lived with his grandma. She wanted him to have a positive male influence in his life. The first 6 months was personally very rewarding. He started doing better in school. His grandmother was very thankful because he was more positive.
He was acknowledged in his math class for a perfect score on his test and it went south from there. His friends turned on him and called him all kinds of names for trying to be white. He didn't want me to pick him up at this house anymore so he would walk down to Broward blvd and meet me so his friends wouldn't see.
Andre was picked on horribly for having a white friend. I could tell he was torn and he wanted to do the right things in life but the pressure from his friends was too great. He out of school. I haven't spoken to his grandma in 6 months but the last time she said that he no longer lived with her and that he was in the streets now.
This kid could have been a good person in life if it wasn't for his shitty friends.
He was acknowledged in his math class for a perfect score on his test and it went south from there. His friends turned on him and called him all kinds of names for trying to be white. He didn't want me to pick him up at this house anymore so he would walk down to Broward blvd and meet me so his friends wouldn't see.
Andre was picked on horribly for having a white friend. I could tell he was torn and he wanted to do the right things in life but the pressure from his friends was too great. He out of school. I haven't spoken to his grandma in 6 months but the last time she said that he no longer lived with her and that he was in the streets now.
This kid could have been a good person in life if it wasn't for his shitty friends.
It is very easy to generalize and stereo type. All to often, it comes to fruition from a culture that is embedded in the those that have been on the dole. We have seen it as section 8 people come into our small communities from Chicago. Some of the people are very nice and trying to better themselves while others are using the system and don't care about only themselves. I am all about giving someone a hand up, not a hand out.
No, that's not the intent. The intent is to build a sense of community with your neighbors. What is wrong with you that you assume those things? During Christmas season, no less.
*sigh* I've done the very thing I'm suggesting here. If you're afraid then that's your issue. I've never been afraid in any social setting, but maybe that's just my internal constitution. I've been in so many different circumstances that nothing fazes me at this point. I don't know, maybe it was how I was raised and how my grandparents, aunts, uncles, and even adult neighbors taught me: All people are people and they all deserve kindness and neighborliness. You welcome the people who feel unwelcome and befriend the people who are lonely or feel alienated. It's the basis of Christianity: feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, care for the sick and dying, and even visiting the imprisoned (or ostracized, like lepers, right?).
I guess I assumed conservatives were Christians, but I guessed wrong, apparently. Either that or being able to say Merry Christmas again (like anyone stopped anyone from doing that) was an empty gesture.
If you went and put up fliers (or had someone who had greater courage do it), you could claim there'd be a free and open potluck at a nearby community center between 4 PM and 7 PM on some Saturday or Sunday night. That way you don't have to do it in your house(s). If you take small steps like that over time--and participate--within a generation you can change the dynamic. But of course that takes a long-term commitment on the part of both sides. It is possible and some communities have done this. Some people call it "outreach." I just call it being neighborly and caring. Either way, it's a cost-effective way to build neighborhood responsibility and to foster an investment on the part of those in low-income housing in such a way that they learn what it's like to be a participating member of their new community. You can't expect everyone coming from high crime areas from generations to suddenly understand the new neighborhood culture, but you get a new generation learning it, it'll be taught and passed down. See, no government taxes needed to make good neighbors in this case. It's a matter of citizenship and neighborliness.
If by fixing the things that cause the problems you really mean giving these people even greater entitlement by paying for them to move to these highly desirable neighborhoods that most of those residents worked their asses off to live in. Then yes, they are fixing the things that cause the problems.
I understand that. Yup, not every person is bad, not every person is good. It takes a lot of work by the community AND by those who are new to an area to transform the community. But the people coming from outside in are adjusting to a new culture even as they are changing the culture from what it was. It's not an easy process, but the more involvement by neighbors and the community in informal ways (community get togethers, neighborhood get-togethers) the more people get to know one another and help one another get along. Suddenly, when the social norms become known, they are taught, and then a new generation comes into being to fit in better than the previous generation. It's happened with immigrants throughout this country's history. It's the same with relocation within the United States, especially for poor people who have to move if the government tells them to move (if they want to keep services like food stamps, Medicaid, housing assistance, energy assistance, etc.).
You'd be surprised at how many people in Section 8 are disabled (mentally or physically) as well as elderly on Social Security. But that means children and teens living with some of these individuals aren't necessarily disabled so it might seem like they are just "living off of the tax dollars of others." Strictly speaking, maybe or maybe not, depends on how much they paid into SS, Medicare, and Medicaid during their lives while working. There are also a lot of women getting Section 8 housing who endured tremendous domestic violence as children and spouses. It's been an epidemic for a long time. And violence like that is debilitating. Think really bad PTSD and social/work dysfunction. The only way to "cure" that from being an intergenerational problem is through the larger community. And we wouldn't need government assistance for people suffering in those ways if people actually acted as fellow citizens caring about their fellow countrymen or, just as important, as Christians caring for the downtrodden, the sick, those in need (not just materially, but socially). It's not an easy task, but far too little is being done outside of government assistance which is why government assistance is so critical.
I'll just be honest. Instead of moving in I'd be happy if they attacked, raped and pillaged it. "Worked their asses off"....LOL.
Just at the idea that hard work and wealth have anything in common.
Living in Baghdad? maybe you have me and h-hawk mixed up. Ive never been in the Middle East and have never claimed that.
Legislating from the bench? Did they pass the action? No, they simply upheld the law. Conservative dumbass strikes against.
