I completely agree with this point. People just look for something, anything they can sink their teeth into. I thought it was dumb when if happened before, and it will be dumb if Frost is criticized for it.
Husker Rhabdo
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I completely agree with this point. People just look for something, anything they can sink their teeth into. I thought it was dumb when if happened before, and it will be dumb if Frost is criticized for it.
Point them out. We know we had that issue as well and some feel our s&c has suffered since. There wasn't much shame being thrown around. Maybe read the thread?
The entire coaching staff should be dismissed
There is no excuse for a collegiate (D-1) program allowing rhabdo to occur for any of their students. There is FAR too much information out there regarding what causes it and how easily preventable it, which simply means you don't use a program / training session that can bring those results.
It shouldn't have happened at Nebraska, Iowa, South Carolina or any other program.
It shouldn't have happened at Nebraska, Iowa, South Carolina or any other program.
We know what happened. Some fans, probably foolishly, are simply giving back to some of our rivals posters some of the same crap that happened here after our incident. I won't comment on your situation, because just like what happened here, no one knows EXACTLY what happened. Over 100 players go through these drills and a dozen are affected negatively. Were they drinking the night before? Did they consume to many energy drinks or red bull type drinks and dehydrate their system that morning? This is the reason the U of I was not found responsible in these cases, I believe, is because there was no way to monitor all of the variables.
Well the only coaches that matter in this conversation are Solich, Pelini, Riley and Frost. I mean Iowa didn't play against a Callahan team, and the Solich teams bitch slapped Iowa into the stone ages. Pelini was 3-1. So that leaves the outlier...and then Frost. That's right, you were 1 - 5 against the Huskers this century until Mr. Riley's neighborhood showed up. If you expect that this is the norm, I just hope that your coaches also believe it.
So your now willing to admit that you measure against Iowa as to the success of your season? Really, lowly Iowa? I mean how many championships, conference or national did the mighty Huskers win in those years? You say you aspire to greatness, and yet this has become the norm for Nebraska. As for Callahan, his relevance is that he was certainly not their first coach on their list during that search, but you've become used to settling haven't you?
No. Beating Iowa should be part of winning the West division. Riley just sucked. And Frost was our first choice.
I think that we'll get back to a 2/3 or 3/4 kind of winning ratio against Iowa after maybe this year (assuming we don't just automatically click). I would consider that the normal order. I may have egg on my face by Nov. of 2019, but there isn't any reason to think - given past history - that an average coach at Nebraska can't win most of the time against Cpt. Kirk. I get it, Nebraska has looked like hot garbage for most of the past three seasons.
I would enjoy if I was an Iowa fan too. However, anyone with an ounce of common sense would also admit that Frost ain't Riley and that wins against Nebraska aren't going to come easy as long as Frost is here.
Yeah, keeping telling yourself that. You really think Nebraska is coming into Iowa City in November and walking out with a win? Dude, its gonna be 5 out of the last 6 and its probably going to be another yawner.
Frost's downfall is going to be defense. At UCF is teams gave up an average of 25 points every game. Clearly he is not a defensive minded coach. But I guess somehow, someway he is all of a sudden going to come up with a stellar defense.
BTW. Has he walked on water yet? I thought I heard a Husker fan say he got a huge group of people drunk on water.
First off, I've never said that Frost and Riley are the same guy. If you've been on here the last several years, you'd know I said back then that Riley was mediocre when they hired him. Frankly, I couldn't understand what they saw in a guy that did almost nothing with the Beavers.I would guess they just wanted a guy who was the polar opposite of Pelini. I have no doubt that Frost will move things in the other direction. Having said that, Iowa has had some very good stretches under old Capt Kirk. Such as 2002- 2005 when we finished top 8 three years in a row. Many here like the direction under the new staff hires last season, and what is for Iowa some pretty solid recruiting the last couple of years. No, were not rated as high as Nebraska in the recruiting guru's listings, but we've shown historically that when we can get into the 30's in these rankings, and get an uptick in athletisism, we can be very competitive.I look forward to competing in a wide open BIG west division the next several years.
What makes you think this? Besides having played at Nebraska and not being Riley, what has he done to generate such hope? Not flaming, honestly curious.
Nebraska had plenty more 4*s last 2 seasons and still were outscored 96-24.
Love the cyclical Husker posting last few years. Talk end of summer early fall how awesome they will be on an IOWA site. Like last year how many times did we hear about that Manning Camp All Star QB Lee and Diacco bringing the black shirts "back". Then season starts and the tail spin begins because it isn't the 90s anymore and Nebraska is an average to above average team and then we don't hear much till game week. When we are told Iowa is a nobody, yet for how irrelevant and a non factor program that Iowa is many posters spend lot of time on Iowa site, and even if they aren't have a good year claim they will still stomp us. Then afterwards most go silent (minus few rational ones) until January when we start to hear about how they are kicking @ss on the recruiting front and last season failures were due to the old QB, DC and now Head Coach. I fully expect this to continue at the very least another 12 months.
Please get back to me when you actually accomplish something on the field....
You have been getting 4 star or better skill players for years- we will just run it right up your ass for 4 quarters. We might be able to put up 80 now that you have this new fast passed offense.
Honestly, this has more to do with the athletes than the coaching staff. Players that went home and were lazy for long period of time put themselves in position to have things like this happen. Coaches expect players to remain in shape and will test that theory after break- unfortunately in cases like this it ended up being a bit extreme.
To be fair, it was Iowa posters starting the threads you mention on Lee and Diacco. I didn't see an Iowa fan say it was a bad hire. Rather the contrary, and that he would turn Nebraska's defense into a force. Whoops!
It has got to be tough for a guy like Diacco to go to a program with such a loser mentality and turn it around in a year. He did not get much of a chance.
I'm assuming that a decent coach can keep Nebraska competitive in the West. We have all of the resources in place for a coach that doesn't totally suck to do OK. Does that mean that we're going to be in the playoffs next year? Probably not. Does it mean that the days of getting steamrolled by the Hawkeyes are behind us? I'd bet yes.
All the resources in place? Kidding right. How about an offensive or defensive line? You are weak up front. Please start wearing your helmet when you leave the house.
What? You're memory maybe foggy cause plenty of Husker fans who started some threads or turn the conversation talking about how great their incoming QB and DC were. Yeah Iowa fans were the ones here talking about Lee and how he was a Manning Camp MVP over and over again.... Pretty sure those were Husker fans who kept harping on that fact.
Basically every husker fan leading up to the season was gloating about both Lee & Diacco. In turn Iowa fans here who remember him and success Diacco as a player and as DC at ND thought it would be a good hire but it was the HUSKER fans who kept talking about how he'd make your defense a force and bring back your Blackshirt D and that Iowa better watch when they shut Iowa's offense down. Was not Iowa fans or very very few make bold claims like this one bud, whoops.....
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Of course you'd bet yes. But you are not grounded in reality, so there's that.
They are all different.
Solich wasnt here because no one wanted the job. Nebraska was a ferrari when he took over. TO just promised him the job.
Callahan was a complete F up by our old AD. Totally messed up the process.
Pelini - Was the fanbases #1 choice. Pretty cut and dry hire
Riley - Who knows on this one, another AD F up. Riley was clear out of left field.
Let's revisit later. A totally average Iowa team that caught Nebraska during the worst coaching tenure in modern history is not exactly a juggernaut.
Lets start with some attainable goals, shall we? Start with something rather simple then build on that. For instance, lets see if you can make OSU punt, I'm sure the punter for OSU would like to say he actually played against Nebraska. Second goal would be, do not give up 36 points a game (it only took 4 Big Ten teams to put 222 total points on you). Third goal, this is mainly for the Nebraska fans that post here. Don't go to another teams board on the off season and pound your chest about what you're GOING to do only to have the yearly trainwreck of a season show up.
Nebraska has no offensive line, no defensive line. Special teams are a nightmare. Sad to say Frosty's offense is gonna have to put up 40+ to win games. Good luck with that!
I've already said that Nebraska was a steaming pile last year. I'm not like an Iowa fan who says "Yeah this is OK" while the barn is burning down. 11-14 over two years gets a guy fired at Nebraska. And yes, this happened just recently at Iowa, and this board was rationalization central. There are some Iowa fans who get it, but most of you think that mediocre is great.
Quit pretending you think it will be a process and will take time. You think things "will click" immediately. You've left open the door that you could make the playoffs next year, but "probably not". I can't find 7 wins on your schedule next year.
And that's why you guys are in the position that you're in right now. I've called for the firing of KF out of anger multiple times (as many others have on here), but that would be pretty stupid. Deep down I feel that Ferentz repensents the state perfectly and runs a top-notch program and brings in top-notch character athlete that develop into men. He's captains a perfect system (outside of a passing game most years) that many other programs emulate (Wisconsin to name one and it totally changed their program's history).
This is evidenced thru the draft year after year and our unthinkable runs every 3-4 years or so. We also like him cuz you guys will get whipped more years than not, just based on style/toughness, even if Frost is good.
Also, if Ferentz goes, Phil Parker, Reese Morgan, and Doyle go. That would be a bad thing. We knocked off Ohio State this year with a TR SO QB that has a golden arm. Pipe down and go back to your own board. We're good with what we have.
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i think we can all cut leotard,I mean singlet, and the all the other holer fans a little slack. I mean Frost won the Natty last year with UCF right? No reason to think that cant happen at Nebby. Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Quit pretending that you know what I think. I would consider 7 wins a success next year, considering how last year went. You guys project shit on Nebraska fans (trust me, I work with enough Iowa transplants to know) that we aren't even thinking about. Start a conversation about football with an Iowa transplant, and the Iowa transplant will be the one who brings up the 90s. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. But in the context that he's trying to convince you that YOU brought it up. I'm not going to get sucked into the same BS conversation on a message board.
I love how you have noticed that going 8-5 and bitch slapping our little red sisters to the West is simply a mediocre year for the Hawks. We are much better than that. You aren’t.
We weren't last year, that's for sure. But status quo is 3/4 wins vs Iowa. I say "status quo" because Pelini was a totally average coach who hated recruiting, yet he was able to do it. All things being equal as far as coaching goes, and Nebraska has the advantage. I'm not going to back away from my feeling that Frost can at least match it.
Hey Singlet. When you first put your helmet on, do you find yourself looking through the ear holes sometimes?
Oops, wrong thread. But I would love to hear your reply.
Incorrect. The mechanism is piss-poor programming with extended contracting of the muscles under load with minimal rest to the point where they deteriorate below the ADP level, with the excessive phosphates and myoglobin from the destroyed muscles ravaging the kidneys. Coaches 'testing theories expecting players to remain in shape' should be fired for negligence, if not simple incompetence for not comprehending how rhabdo occurs. These athletes are the genetic lottery winners in life - the visually and sensory acute physical freaks with 30+" verticals.
Every practice, every workout should have a measurable outcome and never, ever should be a 'test to see who stayed in shape'. And never excuse a bad coach who doesn't comprehend this. The literature is established.
Now you 're just lying. You won't expect 7 wins a success and neither will 90% of your fans. You think a CF turnaround will come right away.
A new head coach isn't going to make THAT much of a difference. It's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's and Iowa certainly has more talented roster than Nebraska.
Again, an Iowa fan telling a Nebraska fan what the Nebraska fan thinks. EVERY conversation with an Iowa fan goes this way.
