HWC out performs NLWC

[HawkeyePA]

I guess with Spencer making the finals and getting silver as compared to numerous NLWC team members who either didn't medal at all or placed lower than expected ( and the Russians weren't even there) the Hawkeye Wrestling club with Spencer and Now Kennedy Blades taking silver for the ladies, may have actually out performed the NLWC and all of its fanfare ? I guess Tom , Terry and Daniel aren't too shabby as freestyle coaches after all. ....1, 2, 3 and cue all of the trolls and crazed PSU folks whenever they let those words sink in.

 

[Exo]

Kind of a stretch to say we out performed them when they have guys on the team that we do not. That being said, Dake and Snyder have not made any noticeable leaps since moving over there. The Brooks collapse I guess can be chalked up to inexperience I guess??

 

[jrod65]

Not my style to get into a "who's better" pissing match, so I'll just stick with positives for this team.

The only US representatives in the men's finals of the Olympics train and coach right here in Iowa City. Perhaps this can be a reminder that there is still more than one option to train for athletes with lofty Olympic goals.

And let's not forget the run of Iowa Hawkeyes holding the 57kgs spot. Got to count for something when recruiting the little guys, right?

 

[Steevo36]

Felicity is training with HWC now.

 

[kjb32812]

Now do NCAAs...

 

[Eph97]

Snyder definitely regressed once he left Ohio State. Maybe they all should spend less time "having fun" and more time learning how to wrestle like a Dagestani?

 

[bourbon n blues]

Snyder definitely regressed once he left Ohio State. Maybe they all should spend less time "having fun" and more time learning how to wrestle like a Dagestani?

Do I need to point out that the nlwc guys in the Olympics beat everyone else to make the team?

 

[bourbon n blues]

Ko

Kind of a stretch to say we out performed them when they have guys on the team that we do not. That being said, Dake and Snyder have not made any noticeable leaps since moving over there. The Brooks collapse I guess can be chalked up to inexperience I guess??

Who Knows, maybe the other guys were just better than the us representatives?

 

[lookleft goright]

I think we can all admit that some of the guys on the team are getting old and they may not be regressing as much as they are just being caught by father time. Watching these guys sure makes it easy to appreciate how tough guys like JB, John Smith, and Bruce Baumgartner must have been to do what they did.
Congrats to the 2 silver medalists from the HWC. They made us proud!!

 

[24timenattychamps]

Pretty weak performance by the NLWC. Snyder and Dake should’ve stayed where they were at.

 

[sunshinedynomite]

Wow -

 

[PotentiallyDan]

Now do NCAAs...

I hope you’re at least wanted and welcome at home, unlike this internet dive bar you frequent. I couldn’t imagine resorting to hanging out on forums of “your” rival and 100% of my contribution toilet stirring.

Pretty sad existence dude. And your schtick isn't even good. I feel sorry for you. At least majority of other Penn State fans around here have the basic elements of social skills. Step up or step out.

 

[comment1283]

I hope you’re at least wanted and welcome at home, unlike this internet dive bar you frequent. I couldn’t imagine resorting to hanging out on forums of “your” rival and 100% of my contribution toilet stirring.

Pretty sad existence dude. And your schtick isn't even good. I feel sorry for you. At least majority of other Penn State fans around here have the basic elements of social skills. Step up or step out.

This is an instance where this thread fully invited responses from PSU people. It’s a dumb ****ing thread

 

[bourbon n blues]

This is an instance where this thread fully invited responses from PSU people. It’s a dumb ****ing thread

It's like pointing out how the Bills sucked because they lost four super bowls in a row when the other teams didn't beat them , lol. I'm happy that any USA wrestler won a medal and was rooting for them all. I thought Spencer was going to win the gold for example and was bummed when he didn't.

 

[WhiteDog125]

thread like this is just another reminder of how far Iowa has fallen lol

 

[GableBeer]

thread like this is just another reminder of how far Iowa has fallen lol

3 of the 6 most popular threads on The Wrestling Room are Iowa related.

 

[WhiteDog125]

3 of the 6 most popular threads on The Wrestling Room are Iowa related.

Wow I had no idea. 2025 ncaa champions for sure now

 

[anon_4lz6x5o7izepf]

This is an instance where this thread fully invited responses from PSU people. It’s a dumb ****ing thread

Yeah probably as dumb as the latest thread bashing Spencer over on cesspool east.

 

[Hawky42]

Dake was strategically confused.
You don't put a 2-0 3-0 or 3-1 grinder into the "Dynamic & Bold" Nittany Lian style.

 

[Grip220]

I was not going to comment because I have respect for the team and the coaches, so much effort is put in.
In the spirit of all things cesspool and I do love to read insightful comments from those knowledgeable kitty cat fans, so here goes!
That Japanese team was extremely well coached and they were ready to go so we cannot take away what they did.
That said, our ENTIRE TEAM would have done better training under TnT and I will give one very good example that stuck out among many.
The match Brooks lost against the russian transfer student, he did not have an offensive shot or attempt till about 3:30 into the match. TNT would have had him and the others on the attack early and set the tone against that guy he should have used his high double early and often and that was clearly not their plan. He was just looking soften that guy up which did not work.
Same goes for KS
I dont know what Dake was doing but he got away from what he is best at!

 

[OldKohawk]

I was not going to comment because I have respect for the team and the coaches, so much effort is put in.
In the spirit of all things cesspool and I do love to read insightful comments from those knowledgeable kitty cat fans, so here goes!
That Japanese team was extremely well coached and they were ready to go so we cannot take away what they did.
That said, our ENTIRE TEAM would have done better training under TnT and I will give one very good example that stuck out among many.
The match Brooks lost against the russian transfer student, he did not have an offensive shot or attempt till about 3:30 into the match. TNT would have had him and the others on the attack early and set the tone against that guy he should have used his high double early and often and that was clearly not their plan. He was just looking soften that guy up which did not work.
Same goes for KS
I dont know what Dake was doing but he got away from what he is best at!

Grip, what would you say the gameplan was for Spencer against Higuchi? I don't recall Spencer ever taking a shot, period, so I'm not sure we could say TnT would have had Aaron Brooks on the offense in the match he lost. I think he lost because of lack of experience - he didn't need to take that shot. Hell, I'd venture to say the lady ref that stopped the match towards the end and told him to quit circling is what made him take the shot.

It was obvious Japan wanted to stay in space and they did that while also getting 3-4 shots in on Spencer in that first period. I didn't think it was a bad call when Spencer went on the clock, but I couldn't believe Japan never went on it either, especially in the 2nd period.

 

[HawkGold]

I was not going to comment because I have respect for the team and the coaches, so much effort is put in.
In the spirit of all things cesspool and I do love to read insightful comments from those knowledgeable kitty cat fans, so here goes!
That Japanese team was extremely well coached and they were ready to go so we cannot take away what they did.
That said, our ENTIRE TEAM would have done better training under TnT and I will give one very good example that stuck out among many.
The match Brooks lost against the russian transfer student, he did not have an offensive shot or attempt till about 3:30 into the match. TNT would have had him and the others on the attack early and set the tone against that guy he should have used his high double early and often and that was clearly not their plan. He was just looking soften that guy up which did not work.
Same goes for KS
I dont know what Dake was doing but he got away from what he is best at!

PSU has coached multiple wrestlers to world and olympic titles. TNT haven’t had a single one.

Your Hawkeye glasses are clouding your judgement here.

 

[Steevo36]

Grip, what would you say the gameplan was for Spencer against Higuchi? I don't recall Spencer ever taking a shot, period, so I'm not sure we could say TnT would have had Aaron Brooks on the offense in the match he lost. I think he lost because of lack of experience - he didn't need to take that shot. Hell, I'd venture to say the lady ref that stopped the match towards the end and told him to quit circling is what made him take the shot.

It was obvious Japan wanted to stay in space and they did that while also getting 3-4 shots in on Spencer in that first period. I didn't think it was a bad call when Spencer went on the clock, but I couldn't believe Japan never went on it either, especially in the 2nd period.

Spencer took a shot in the first period. I think he got his 2nd step out from it. It was a poor shot though

 

[OldKohawk]

Spencer took a shot in the first period. I think he got his 2nd step out from it. It was a poor shot though

Thanks for the correction. I watched live and haven't since, but remember thinking he didn't hardly get to his offense after watching live.

 

[Libertylover]

Thanks for the correction. I watched live and haven't since, but remember thinking he didn't hardly get to his offense after watching live.

He admitted he didn’t let it fly as much as he should have. Probably a case of having too much respect for a seasoned guy that many predicted would be a bad match up for Spencer. Ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[sdvike]

Maybe not like heart racing watching and wanting Spencer to win but was still pulling for all the USA wrestlers.

 

[IRONBIRD]

PSU has coached multiple wrestlers to world and olympic titles. TNT haven’t had a single one.

Your Hawkeye glasses are clouding your judgement here.

I said it a L O N G time ago that EVERYONE the the great Krailure "bought over" would regress and they have! I also know why but I will not say because I know they read my posts!!!

That being said, I will GIVE PROPS to BROOKS!!! He wrestled much better then I thought he would AND he was said to "sit out" that SHEEET show of a opening crap act!!! DOUBLE good on him!

Did not like SL's performance in the finals. I have no idea what was the plan, or what was going through his head. Although I did not think he did enough to win the match, I am still wondering about the last to "grounded" calls. As someone had said on another wrestling forum. If not a point, then maybe put him on the shot clock at least. My opinion is the ref misinterpreted the rule AND the rule needs to be written better where something like this does not happen. Which is the reason it is in FS in the first place, to make the Wrestlers WRESTLE!!!

RBYs BS style is a GREAT example of why a push out rule is need in Folk!!!

 

[12tdsaw]

cejudo

 

[Grip220]

Grip, what would you say the gameplan was for Spencer against Higuchi? I don't recall Spencer ever taking a shot, period, so I'm not sure we could say TnT would have had Aaron Brooks on the offense in the match he lost. I think he lost because of lack of experience - he didn't need to take that shot. Hell, I'd venture to say the lady ref that stopped the match towards the end and told him to quit circling is what made him take the shot.

It was obvious Japan wanted to stay in space and they did that while also getting 3-4 shots in on Spencer in that first period. I didn't think it was a bad call when Spencer went on the clock, but I couldn't believe Japan never went on it either, especially in the 2nd period.

PSU has coached multiple wrestlers to world and olympic titles. TNT haven’t had a single one.

Your Hawkeye glasses are clouding your judgement here.

My site is just fine no need for any glasses. I will respond why I made the statement I did, but first you guys answer me this, why did our best under perform and who is to blame?
Our guy made it to the finals and lost by one point( even though on the second push out, the guy was not grounded and Spencer should’ve won by criteria) after all the health problems against a guy who is considered one of the best at tge weight for years and has trained for the last 8 years for these 4 matches.
So please answer my question, then I will explain why our Olympic team in this tournament would have been better training under one roof with TnT then at state college.
You first

 

[HawkGold]

My site is just fine no need for any glasses. I will respond why I made the statement I did, but first you guys answer me this, why did our best under perform and who is to blame?
Our guy made it to the finals and lost by one point( even though on the second push out, the guy was not grounded and Spencer should’ve won by criteria) after all the health problems against a guy who is considered one of the best at tge weight for years and has trained for the last 8 years for these 4 matches.
So please answer my question, then I will explain why our Olympic team in this tournament would have been better training under one roof with TnT then at state college.
You first

Whether all guys underperformed or not, why would they have had better training in Iowa City? Where’s the evidence with that? You can’t say just because Lee got silver and no one placed higher on the MFS team, Iowa City is now the place to be. That makes no sense.

Now blow our minds with your statement.

 

[HawkGold]

cejudo

Good catch. I was thinking while at Iowa but can’t forget about Cejudo.

 

[kjb32812]

I hope you’re at least wanted and welcome at home, unlike this internet dive bar you frequent. I couldn’t imagine resorting to hanging out on forums of “your” rival and 100% of my contribution toilet stirring.

Pretty sad existence dude. And your schtick isn't even good. I feel sorry for you. At least majority of other Penn State fans around here have the basic elements of social skills. Step up or step out.

I barely post on here, and when I do, it isn't toilet stirring. Never seen you post on here prior to now...stick to lurking.

It's an idiotic thread and absolutely deserved my comment.

 

[Grip220]

Whether all guys underperformed or not, why would they have had better training in Iowa City? Where’s the evidence with that? You can’t say just because Lee got silver and no one placed higher on the MFS team, Iowa City is now the place to be. That makes no sense.

Now blow our minds with your statement.

again, do you have any thoughts on how to answer my question or will just argue by asking more questions.

 

[GiApet]

Maybe this thread can serve as a wakeup call to other clubs to step up because the way I see things, the majority of our next crop will come from NLWC as well...

 

[Pennstate1985]

Maybe this thread can serve as a wakeup call to other clubs to step up because the way I see things, the majority of our next crop will come from NLWC as well...

You are a Beacon of hope to the Hawkeye faithful.

 

[GiApet]

You are a Beacon of hope to the Hawkeye faithful.

I do what I can..

 

[BrockBronson]

With Gilman leaving and Spencer wanting to win gold in 2028, the move to NLWC could be on the horizon! Could you imagine those headlines in Iowa City! It would turn to Gotham city over night

 

[24timenattychamps]

With Gilman leaving and Spencer wanting to win gold in 2028, the move to NLWC could be on the horizon! Could you imagine those headlines in Iowa City! It would turn to Gotham city over night

Contracted thru 2028. Sorry bud.

 

[smalls103]

i can't believe this thread is real

 

[HawkGold]

again, do you have any thoughts on how to answer my question or will just argue by asking more questions.

Ok, I’ll respond so I can see how awful your take is.

65: If the concussion rumors are true, he didn’t underperform. Didn’t even get the chance

74: Unperformed, sure. But I think I heard or saw that he only beat the guy from Japan 3-2 last time they wrestled?

86: Did not underperform. First big boy tournament and lost to the Olympic champion because he took a shot he didn’t need to

97: Underperformed because he didn’t medal for the first time in how many years. But he had also already lost to that guy he wrestled in the semi’s