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HWC out performs NLWC

Ok, I’ll respond so I can see how awful your take is.

65: If the concussion rumors are true, he didn’t underperform. Didn’t even get the chance

74: Unperformed, sure. But I think I heard or saw that he only beat the guy from Japan 3-2 last time they wrestled?

86: Did not underperform. First big boy tournament and lost to the Olympic champion because he took a shot he didn’t need to

97: Underperformed because he didn’t medal for the first time in how many years. But he had also already lost to that guy he wrestled in the semi’s
This ain’t baseball.. Batting .500 (.333 if you drop Zane out) is worthy of scrutiny when that many guys are coming from the same program. You PSU bootylickers are obnoxious.
 
This ain’t baseball cupcake. Batting .500 (.333 if you drop Zane out) is worthy of scrutiny when that many guys are coming from the same program. You PSU bootylickers are obnoxious.
Scrutinize them all you want. I’m not defending them and that’s not my argument. My argument is that they wouldn’t have gotten better training at Iowa.
 
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My site is just fine no need for any glasses. I will respond why I made the statement I did, but first you guys answer me this, why did our best under perform and who is to blame?
Our guy made it to the finals and lost by one point( even though on the second push out, the guy was not grounded and Spencer should’ve won by criteria) after all the health problems against a guy who is considered one of the best at tge weight for years and has trained for the last 8 years for these 4 matches.
So please answer my question, then I will explain why our Olympic team in this tournament would have been better training under one roof with TnT then at state college.
You first
My friend, I didn't question your eye(sight). In fact, I really didn't even question you, only stated that I'm not sure TnT would have had Brooks on the attack in his match he lost - to each his own, not a big deal.

OUR guy did make the finals. He looked great and I'm sure he wishes he had a sequence or two back, but that is life and he's been through so much in his, I think he will regroup and learn from it. Spencer could have gone on the attack and ended up getting beat by more, we don't know. We do know that Higuchi is a stud and has been for awhile. We also know that Spencer has been climbing this mountain for some time, and it was damn good to finally see him have some success on the international scene, HEALTHY.

Truth is, I'd love to have all of our reps from the HWC each year, but that will never happen. We do need more in the club, but we're also finding out that maybe most of them in one club isn't the best route to go. We're on the same side.....
 
did Dake and Snyder improve at nlwc? evidence would point to no
Or did they just get older and lose half a step? By this logic you’d have to say Gilman improved from Bronze to Silver after his move to State College.

Long story short, using this one tournament to tear psu down is silly. Saying that all the athletes should have trained Iowa City is so laughable that I’m not even sure Grip believes that.

Anywho, I can’t even believe this is a conversation, but I guess this is the cesspool off-season.
 
Or did they just get older and lose half a step? By this logic you’d have to say Gilman improved from Bronze to Silver after his move to State College.

Long story short, using this one tournament to tear psu down is silly. Saying that all the athletes should have trained Iowa City is so laughable that I’m not even sure Grip believes that.

Anywho, I can’t even believe this is a conversation, but I guess this is the cesspool off-season.
So Gilman improved ?? after his time at NLWC he failed to even make it through his Trials Matches to even make the Olympic team this year ?? Zain was out on the medical side... Dake looked shell shocked by a low ankle shot..REPEATEDLY .. Brooks wrestled like a different person in his loss and then looked very good in the bronze medal match when the pressure was off of him and Captain America... Kyle Snyder just looked tired and didn't come close to his Gold Medal ( Even without the Russians being present). Maybe the NLWC needs to change their training techniques or perhaps their Assistant coaches need replaced or MAYBE even add some damn windows to the training area................... these all sound oddly familiar when having a wrestling conversation in the cesspool . I honestly believe Spencer will be back for 2028 and for not having wrestled in very many international competitions over the last 5 or so years I think he did pretty damn well for himself.
 
So Gilman improved ?? after his time at NLWC he failed to even make it through his Trials Matches to even make the Olympic team this year ?? Zain was out on the medical side... Dake looked shell shocked by a low ankle shot..REPEATEDLY .. Brooks wrestled like a different person in his loss and then looked very good in the bronze medal match when the pressure was off of him and Captain America... Kyle Snyder just looked tired and didn't come close to his Gold Medal ( Even without the Russians being present). Maybe the NLWC needs to change their training techniques or perhaps their Assistant coaches need replaced or MAYBE even add some damn windows to the training area................... these all sound oddly familiar when having a wrestling conversation in the cesspool . I honestly believe Spencer will be back for 2028 and for not having wrestled in very many international competitions over the last 5 or so years I think he did pretty damn well for himself.
He is getting a late start in senior freestyle, but if the knees hold up, and doesn’t get mentally burned out, should have 4 more good years in him. I thought Snyder was about 10 years older than Spencer with all his international freestyle experience, but he is only 3 years older!! He’s like a car that isn’t that old, but has high mileage.
 
for the record that was sarcasm. they are both great wrestlers who had already reached the top so it is impossible for them to improve their standings
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So Gilman improved ?? after his time at NLWC he failed to even make it through his Trials Matches to even make the Olympic team this year ?? Zain was out on the medical side... Dake looked shell shocked by a low ankle shot..REPEATEDLY .. Brooks wrestled like a different person in his loss and then looked very good in the bronze medal match when the pressure was off of him and Captain America... Kyle Snyder just looked tired and didn't come close to his Gold Medal ( Even without the Russians being present). Maybe the NLWC needs to change their training techniques or perhaps their Assistant coaches need replaced or MAYBE even add some damn windows to the training area................... these all sound oddly familiar when having a wrestling conversation in the cesspool . I honestly believe Spencer will be back for 2028 and for not having wrestled in very many international competitions over the last 5 or so years I think he did pretty damn well for himself.
I got it, you can only improve so much and maybe the other guys are better? I don't get the point of this thread though, I mean the 4 guys associated with the NLWC beat everyone else to gain their spots. The whole thread makes no sense.
 
I don't entertain them much if at all, the PSU trolls, but a lot of theirs are pretty piss poor efforts as well. It is funny to picture some dumbass at his computer waiting to get a rise out of someone and laughing by themselves about how they got someone. Go outside and enjoy life.
 
Whether all guys underperformed or not, why would they have had better training in Iowa City? Where’s the evidence with that? You can’t say just because Lee got silver and no one placed higher on the MFS team, Iowa City is now the place to be. That makes no sense.

Now blow our minds with your statement.
Different perspective. To say they wouldn't gain anything or be better is b.s. Not saying it would be solely on TnT on why they win, but they could definitely add another element to their arsenal.
 
Different perspective. To say they wouldn't gain anything or be better is b.s. Not saying it would be solely on TnT on why they win, but they could definitely add another element to their arsenal.
Serious question: even if these guys wanted to train at HWC, would they be welcome? The entire staff and roster is inbred. Does the HWC even want to train outsiders?
 
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Serious question: even if these guys wanted to train at HWC, would they be welcome? The entire staff and roster is inbred. Does the HWC even want to train outsiders?
Inbred huh? That's rich coming from the state college of child rapists.
 
If for some reason the 2nd sentence hurt your feelings, feel free to ignore it. Your coaches and team seem to take pride in it. Are outsiders even welcome at the HWC?
Nah man. Don't take it there if you don't want an equally snide remark. I'm all good bro. Good question though. With the amount of transfers we get I don't think it's an issue. Eirman. Woods. Franek. They seem to be all in off the top of my head. NIL put loyalties on notice for sure and I think it'll trickle to the clubs.
 
Nah man. Don't take it there if you don't want an equally snide remark. I'm all good bro. Good question though. With the amount of transfers we get I don't think it's an issue. Eirman. Woods. Franek. They seem to be all in off the top of my head. NIL put loyalties on notice for sure and I think it'll trickle to the clubs.
Eirman, woods, and frank all wrestled for the university of iowa. Is anybody who didn't come through the University of Iowa welcome to train at the HWC?
 
Eirman, woods, and frank all wrestled for the university of iowa. Is anybody who didn't come through the University of Iowa welcome to train at the HWC?
Missouri. Stanford. North Dakota. All transfers that seem to have no issue training with the roster and coaches. What's the difference between a senior level club guy getting paid to wrestle there than a college transfer?
 
You seriously don't see the difference? I'm not even talking about getting paid to wrestle or coach the HWC. Just come and train with the club.
But now that you mention it, has the HWC ever employed somebody who didn't graduate from the Univeristy of Iowa? Coach, staff, Anybody?
 
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You seriously don't see the difference? I'm not even talking about getting paid to wrestle or coach the HWC. Just come and train with the club.
But now that you mention it, has the HWC ever employed somebody who didn't graduate from the Univeristy of Iowa? Coach, staff, Anybody?
@TarpHawk. There are probably some others.
 
You seriously don't see the difference? I'm not even talking about getting paid to wrestle or coach the HWC. Just come and train with the club.
But now that you mention it, has the HWC ever employed somebody who didn't graduate from the Univeristy of Iowa? Coach, staff, Anybody?
How th hell am I supposed to know every person that stops by to train? You need to consult Nastrodamus for that and not Yubfrontin.
 
Missouri. Stanford. North Dakota. All transfers that seem to have no issue training with the roster and coaches. What's the difference between a senior level club guy getting paid to wrestle there than a college transfer?
Stop feeding the PSU troll. He will screw with you all night, insinuating how progressive and diverse the NLWC is, and we are like some KKK of wrestling, not welcoming “outsiders “. We would gladly welcome and pay up for a bunch of outsiders who are Olympic medalists and world champions like they did, and he knows it.
 
Stop feeding the PSU troll. He will screw with you all night, insinuating how progressive and diverse the NLWC is, and we are like some KKK of wrestling, not welcoming “outsiders “. We would gladly welcome and pay up for a bunch of outsiders who are Olympic medalists and world champions like they did, and he knows it.
Doesn't seem like it. Otherwise it would have happened already.
 
I'll take that as a 'no' then
Gable Steveson was there last summer. Who all stops by without getting paid at your place? Don't forget you paid for all your top guys. NLWC would've only had two guys in the Olynpics without handing over a bag of cash. N
 
Gable Steveson was there last summer. Who all stops by without getting paid at your place? Don't forget you paid for all your top guys. NLWC would've only had two guys in the Olynpics without handing over a bag of cash. N
See, that's the info I was looking for in the first place. As far as the NLWC, we can start with Rei Higuchi.
 
You seriously don't see the difference? I'm not even talking about getting paid to wrestle or coach the HWC. Just come and train with the club.
But now that you mention it, has the HWC ever employed somebody who didn't graduate from the Univeristy of Iowa? Coach, staff, Anybody?
Travis Rutt, Ben Berhow, Jay Robinson to name a few off the top of my head.
 
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You seriously don't see the difference? I'm not even talking about getting paid to wrestle or coach the HWC. Just come and train with the club.
But now that you mention it, has the HWC ever employed somebody who didn't graduate from the Univeristy of Iowa? Coach, staff, Anybody?
Yes
 
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Could you elaborate on this?
He won a World Championship after going to the NLWC, after not making the team the 2 years prior while wrestling for the HWC.

This isn't an indictment of the HWC. They have put lots of great wrestlers on the World/ Olympic stage. Some people achieve more when they change things up.
 
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